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ProudMNDemocrat

(19,428 posts)
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 05:32 PM Jun 2023

Pence calls for Garland to publicly justify Trump indictment

Say what Mike? AG Garland DOES NOT have to justify to you or anyone else why the Federal indictment against your former boss has been made by the Florida grand Jury. SC Jack Smith laid it out quite clearly and in short order WHY Trump was indicted. At the arraignment come this Tuesday, the charges will be read. Does that upset you that your former boss, whose ass you kissed for 4 years, is going to be held accountable for his crimes against America as well as violating the US Constitution? Go cry a river to Mother why don't you!

Source: The Hill

Former Vice President Mike Pence called on Attorney General Merrick Garland to publicly justify the federal indictment against former President Trump after his former boss was charged with 37 criminal counts.

Pence said during a speech at a North Carolina GOP convention in Greensboro on Saturday that Trump is facing an “unprecedented indictment” from a Justice Department (DOJ) that is “run by” the current president, Joe Biden. He said the day of Trump’s indictment was a “sad day” for the country.

Pence said no one is above the law, but he has seen “years” of politicization from the DOJ, pointing to examples like former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton not facing prosecution for her use of a private email server while serving as secretary and a “hoax” of an investigation into alleged ties between the Trump 2016 campaign and Russia.

He said the country has a “right” to know the “basis” of the decision to indict Trump.

More at....https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4043872-pence-calls-for-garland-to-publicly-justify-trump-indictment/
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Pence calls for Garland to publicly justify Trump indictment (Original Post) ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2023 OP
Read the damn indictment, Mikey. we can do it Jun 2023 #1
Exactly chicoescuela Jun 2023 #14
+1 Jarqui Jun 2023 #42
The former life-threatened-by-insurrectionists-for-trump idiot is courting his Qultists. Justice matters. Jun 2023 #35
four years of gazing adoringly at your boss as he agingdem Jun 2023 #70
Yep! A horror movie... I hope Jack Smith gets the GJ back in for Justice matters. Jun 2023 #74
He will Rebl2 Jun 2023 #37
Ha.....have the flies democratsruletheday Jun 2023 #39
Exactly Pototan Jun 2023 #60
Is Pence learning impaired?? AZ8theist Jun 2023 #67
No kidding. He looks like an idiot JohnSJ Jun 2023 #76
Pence can read Smith's indictment. It is all in there. emulatorloo Jun 2023 #2
I always wonder if ANYONE in the DOJ is looking into Barr. Autumn Jun 2023 #12
Have you tried reading the indictment, dumbass? The justification and basis is within. RockRaven Jun 2023 #3
the "basis" of the decision to indict Trump? To find out if he was selling the country out. Obvious. bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #4
Something tells me this will not make Pence more popular. nt BootinUp Jun 2023 #5
Pence is as exciting as a wet Herring. A wet Herring is more popular. ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2023 #6
Almost all of the republican candidates are waiting for TFG's downfall Claustrum Jun 2023 #22
Time for Pence to step back from public life and quit offering his twisted fever dreams. PufPuf23 Jun 2023 #7
Must suck that the most exciting thing about you is the fly that landed on your head. Solly Mack Jun 2023 #8
Every time I catch him on TV, I think: LuckyCharms Jun 2023 #9
Pretty much. Vanilla at least has a flavor. Cardboard seems about right. Solly Mack Jun 2023 #11
He reminds me of wall paper paste JanLip Jun 2023 #78
It's all in the indictment. He can read? Fuck Pence. Too bad Trumps idiots were so inept. Autumn Jun 2023 #10
He wanted you dead Mickie. sheshe2 Jun 2023 #13
fact....the orange anus democratsruletheday Jun 2023 #41
Lord of the Flies sheshe2 Jun 2023 #45
Just go MOMFUDSKI Jun 2023 #15
He'll be saying that after the Jan. 6 indictments too BeyondGeography Jun 2023 #16
Does Pence even know what he is saying? LuckyCharms Jun 2023 #17
Republican kabuki theater 🎭 live love laugh Jun 2023 #18
Does Pence agree with this??? ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2023 #19
trump Projecting Again. Cha Jun 2023 #30
Does he realize that it's a written document? Bleacher Creature Jun 2023 #20
Shmuck! hedda_foil Jun 2023 #21
Trump could of cared samplegirl Jun 2023 #23
No, dipshit Pence, it's republican presidents who interfere in the DOJ, not democrats. BComplex Jun 2023 #24
Go back to Indiana Mikey. kacekwl Jun 2023 #25
I believe that's Mr Smith's job..and he already did..quite succinctly PortTack Jun 2023 #26
That's what I told Fly Head in Cha Jun 2023 #29
Hi Cha!! Speak it PortTack Jun 2023 #51
Hello I'm Mike Pence, I'm running for newdayneeded Jun 2023 #27
KEEP THE FUCK UP FLY HEAD.. Jack Smith Cha Jun 2023 #28
Wow, these candidates are something else EarlG Jun 2023 #31
It's because they are as dumb as their criminal dear leader is. Maybe a lil less dumb. Justice matters. Jun 2023 #44
Yeah, and if somehow.. Cha Jun 2023 #53
Stockholm Syndrome's a misogynistic construct, invented by 1 of the worst of the influential Swedes Celerity Jun 2023 #64
Thanks EarlG Jun 2023 #68
yw Earl, and thank you for taking the time to reply Celerity Jun 2023 #69
who the hell does he think signed off on Smith's case? The tooth fairy? Takket Jun 2023 #32
Read the indictment you vapid fuck. onecaliberal Jun 2023 #33
Maybe if we acted it out on a flannel board? gratuitous Jun 2023 #34
How about sock puppets? electric_blue68 Jun 2023 #72
The old saying.... Bluethroughu Jun 2023 #36
Hang with Mike 2024 Traildogbob Jun 2023 #38
You see Mike, this is why you can't be President Cheezoholic Jun 2023 #40
Penis is talking to the base who are too stupid to know they are stupid. SayItLoud Jun 2023 #43
Maybe they should have hung him. paleotn Jun 2023 #46
Trigger words for the easily triggered Mr. Ected Jun 2023 #47
THIS!!☝️ onetexan Jun 2023 #83
The man puts the dumb ass back into stupid mother... Botany Jun 2023 #48
How about Mike The Wizard Jun 2023 #49
I think the indictment makes it clear Marthe48 Jun 2023 #50
He's only saying this to look good to the far right; he's delighted about the indictments. NH Ethylene Jun 2023 #52
Who the fugg is he again? malaise Jun 2023 #54
Pence Windy City Charlie Jun 2023 #55
Integrety is not in this human quakerboy Jun 2023 #56
Huh?? Exactly what crimes did Merrick Garland witness first hand?? Rhiannon12866 Jun 2023 #57
Which absolutely proves that the fake, unpresidential Pence refuses to read. Just like Trump. ancianita Jun 2023 #58
The Answer To Pence's Questions Are All DallasNE Jun 2023 #59
He did Mike. He released the indictment to the public. AllyCat Jun 2023 #61
Mike, can I say sometihing to you in private? TheCowsCameHome Jun 2023 #62
Clearly smart enough to know better. Ergo, he's an A-hole elias7 Jun 2023 #63
Hate to break it you Mother-Lover... LowerManhattanite Jun 2023 #65
Isn't that he just did? WVreaper Jun 2023 #66
Hypocrite. EndlessWire Jun 2023 #71
Ask mother to explain it to you. SamKnause Jun 2023 #73
He doesn't have to, but he should MissMillie Jun 2023 #75
So, why didn't Republicans indict Hillary when they had the chance? dlk Jun 2023 #77
He already did that, you stupid traitor trash ExWhoDoesntCare Jun 2023 #79
Hey, Mike, They're called Grand Juries. Mr.Bill Jun 2023 #80
That's how Pence sees Attorneys General status -- as publicly challengeable to answer to HIM. ancianita Jun 2023 #81
Is Trump still running on the "Hang Mike" ticket? struggle4progress Jun 2023 #82

Justice matters.

(7,868 posts)
35. The former life-threatened-by-insurrectionists-for-trump idiot is courting his Qultists.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:01 PM
Jun 2023

It will not work.

agingdem

(8,541 posts)
70. four years of gazing adoringly at your boss as he
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:01 PM
Jun 2023

caged babies, separated families, banned Muslims, praised Nazis, romanced despots, insulted our allies, trashed global pacts/treaties, extorted Ukraine's Zelensky, ignored a global pandemic, disappeared 300,000 covid deaths, referred to fallen soldiers as losers and suckers, weaponized the Justice Department to punish his enemies/reward his friends, plotted a coup, incited an insurrection..

and here you are, a spineless weasel, demanding AG Merrick Garland justify indicting the guy who thought "Hang Mike Pence" was a good idea...what the fuck is wrong with you????

Justice matters.

(7,868 posts)
74. Yep! A horror movie... I hope Jack Smith gets the GJ back in for
Sun Jun 11, 2023, 06:59 AM
Jun 2023

a vote on supplemental indictments of witness tampering in Florida.

Pototan

(2,315 posts)
60. Exactly
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:04 PM
Jun 2023

Sometimes I don't whether these Republicans (cultists or not) think we're dopes, or they are.

AZ8theist

(6,625 posts)
67. Is Pence learning impaired??
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:31 PM
Jun 2023

The indictment spells out pretty clearly what his crimes were. (STILL are)

I get a very bad feeling in the pit of my stomach thinking how much stolen material is STILL OUT THERE

emulatorloo

(45,728 posts)
2. Pence can read Smith's indictment. It is all in there.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 05:34 PM
Jun 2023

P.S. Russian interference was real, Bill Barr lied about it. Ask Bill Barr to justify that. Also, Take a look at the bi-partisan Senate Report.

P.S.S Thou shalt not lie. Thou shalt not have any gods before me. (Hint: God wont allow you to worship Trump)

Autumn

(47,251 posts)
12. I always wonder if ANYONE in the DOJ is looking into Barr.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 05:48 PM
Jun 2023

I think I'm destined for disappointment on that.

bucolic_frolic

(48,588 posts)
4. the "basis" of the decision to indict Trump? To find out if he was selling the country out. Obvious.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 05:35 PM
Jun 2023

Claustrum

(5,052 posts)
22. Almost all of the republican candidates are waiting for TFG's downfall
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 06:13 PM
Jun 2023

and see if they can absorb TFG's MAGA cultists base. That's what they are pandering to.

PufPuf23

(9,301 posts)
7. Time for Pence to step back from public life and quit offering his twisted fever dreams.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 05:37 PM
Jun 2023

Pence is willfully insane and dangerous. There is a line of sickos looking to take Trump's role as figurehead.

Pence is a person of The Lie, every essence of his being.

sheshe2

(89,556 posts)
13. He wanted you dead Mickie.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 05:49 PM
Jun 2023

Remember the chants? "Hang Mike Pence" and he cheered them on.

You are a pathetic excuse for a human being.

Read the indictment, you moron it's all there.

democratsruletheday

(1,229 posts)
41. fact....the orange anus
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:16 PM
Jun 2023

tried to have Lord of the Flies off'd. Repukes are amusing and repulsive at the same time.

BeyondGeography

(40,161 posts)
16. He'll be saying that after the Jan. 6 indictments too
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 05:50 PM
Jun 2023

Pointless Pence. Even when his life was threatened he’ll want an explanation.

LuckyCharms

(19,550 posts)
17. Does Pence even know what he is saying?
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 05:52 PM
Jun 2023

Or does he just make that face of his (you know the one) and spew out random words?

Read the indictment, dumb fuck.

BComplex

(9,238 posts)
24. No, dipshit Pence, it's republican presidents who interfere in the DOJ, not democrats.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 06:26 PM
Jun 2023

Get your head out of your arse.

 

newdayneeded

(2,493 posts)
27. Hello I'm Mike Pence, I'm running for
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 06:39 PM
Jun 2023

president, but I want you to please consider voting for Donald Trump because he's a really nice guy!

Cha

(307,177 posts)
28. KEEP THE FUCK UP FLY HEAD.. Jack Smith
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 06:40 PM
Jun 2023

Publicly SPOKE on IT and it was Brilliant.

AG Garland Appointed Jack Smith to Do it.

Oh & Fuck Off While you Catch UP to Speed.

EarlG

(22,734 posts)
31. Wow, these candidates are something else
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 06:44 PM
Jun 2023

Last edited Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Pence is running AGAINST Trump. Any candidate worth their salt would think their opponent getting indicted was a gift. Instead, Pence and some of his fellow candidates are bending over backwards to defend Trump. How unserious can you get?

I still believe that every single GOP candidate in the race already knows they’re going to lose to Trump, and they’re just trying to position themselves for 2028.

Justice matters.

(7,868 posts)
44. It's because they are as dumb as their criminal dear leader is. Maybe a lil less dumb.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:19 PM
Jun 2023

At least they would ask their Lawyer's counsel before committing the same crimes...

Cha

(307,177 posts)
53. Yeah, and if somehow..
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:53 PM
Jun 2023

trump has to drop out for whatever miraculous reason.. they don't want to piss off the Cult.

So Tip Toeing through the Tulips!

Celerity

(47,872 posts)
64. Stockholm Syndrome's a misogynistic construct, invented by 1 of the worst of the influential Swedes
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:13 PM
Jun 2023

Nevilledog's OP:

Stockholm Syndrome is a myth invented to discredit women victims of violence

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217540135

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1611171203783294977.html'm

I just read -- in the book SEE WHAT YOU MADE ME DO by Jess Hill -- about the incident in Stockholm for which Stockholm Syndrome is named, and I am royally pissed off on behalf of all women, buckle up.

So, in 1973 there was this bank robbery In Stockholm. Two gunmen took four bank clerks hostage. This doesn't happen much in Sweden, and the police response can most charitably be described as inept. They surrounded the bank and kept it under siege for six days. The public was rapt. The police probably felt they couldn't back down.

They got off to a bang up start when they sent their psychiatrist Nils Bejerot and a teenaged kid THOUGHT was the gunman's younger brother into the bank to negotiate. The kid was not in fact the younger brother and he got shot. Nils got out, though. Put a pin in that.

One of the hostages was a woman named Kristin Enmark. She strategically got close to the gunman who seemed more sane and more stable, because she thought that getting his protection was the best bet for getting out of there. Definitely she didn't want to leave their lives in the hands of the police. She tried to talk to our friend Nils on the phone -- he refused to talk to her.

snip



my add to that OP thread

Nils Bejerot was an asshole on many fronts, one of worst of the influential Swedes. Besides inventing Stockholm Syndrome, he was one of the chief architects of Sweden's crazy draconian drug policy, and also helped shaped the US's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_Bejerot

Nils Johan Artur Bejerot (September 21, 1921 – November 29, 1988) was a Swedish psychiatrist and criminologist best known for his work on drug abuse and for coining the phrase Stockholm syndrome. Bejerot was one of the top drug abuse researchers in Sweden. His view that drug abuse was a criminal matter and that drug use should have severe penalties was highly influential in Sweden and in other countries. He believed that the cure for drug addiction was to make drugs unavailable and socially unacceptable. He also advocated the idea that drug abuse could transition from being a symptom to a disease in itself.

snip

Before Bejerot began to participate in the debate on drugs in 1965, it was the dominant view in Sweden that drug abuse was a private health problem and that law enforcement measures should be aimed at drug dealers. Before 1968, the maximum offence for a grave drug crime was one year in prison. Bejerot objected to this and stressed the importance of measures against the demand for drugs, against users, and their importance in the spread of addiction to new addicts. Bejerot did not accept unemployment and poor private economy as explanations for increased use of illegal drugs. He pointed out that alcohol abuse in the 1930s was comparatively limited in Sweden, despite high unemployment and economic depression.

snip

Berejot also strongly advocated for strict anti-drug laws. In 1965 Bejerot started to engage in the Swedish debate on drug abuse, encouraging tough action against the new and rapidly growing problem. He followed closely a rather clumsy experiment with legal prescription of heroin, amphetamine, etc. to drug addicts, studies that formed the basis for his thesis on the epidemic drug spread. Bejerot claimed that the program should increase the number of drug addicts and showed through counting of injection marks that the number of drug addicts in Stockholm continued to grow fast during the experiment. The program was stopped in 1968. From 1968 and onward, the difference between the epidemic type, the therapeutic type and the endemic type of drug abuse was a repeated issue in Bejerot's writing and lectures. In 1969, Bejerot became one of the founders of the Association for a Drug-Free Society (RNS), which played - and still plays - an important role in shaping Swedish drug policies. RNS don't accept any of the state grants which are available. Bejerot warned of the consequences of an ‘epidemic addiction’, prompted by young, psychologically and socially unstable persons who, usually after direct personal initiation from another drug abuser, begin to use socially nonaccepted, intoxicating drugs to gain euphoria.

In 1972, Bejerots' reports were used as one of the reasons for increasing the maximum penalty for grave drug offences in Sweden to 10 years in prison. In 1974 he was called to testify as one of 21 scientific experts on marijuana for a subcommittee of the United States Senate on the marijuana-hashish epidemic and its impact on United States security. He advocated zero tolerance for illegal use and possession of drugs, including all drugs not covered by prescription, something that today is law in Sweden. In the early 1980s, he became one of the "Top 10 opinion molders" in Sweden for this. Bejerot is by UNODC and many others recognized as founder of the Swedish strategy against recreational use of drugs. His demand for zero tolerance as a drug policy was for a long time seen as extreme, but during the late 1970s opinion changed. He is without doubt the person most responsible for changing the Swedish drug policy in a restrictive direction something that made him a controversial person, both before and after his death. Many people considered Bejerot as a good humanist advocating a viable policy against narcotics and Robert DuPont considers him "the hero of the Swedish drug abuse story." Others view this as a reactionary hindering of new treatment practices against drug abuse.

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INTERVIEW: The past, present and future of Sweden's zero-tolerance drug policy

The new RW government is going to try to go even harder (our drug laws are already very hardcore. the police can legally stop you and do a forced blood test anytime on even the slightest suspicion you are using drugs) into a war on drugs stance. Many Swedes were raised to believe that there is no difference between weed and all the hard drugs, it is all so so bad to do.

The first part is in this podcast

Sweden in Focus: Easter traditions, threats to democracy, and Swedish attitudes to drugs explained

The drugs discussion starts around 15:30

https://play.acast.com/s/77ca3392-3d6f-434f-8821-6472a6c25d8d/642eeabb63f9a2001160c2be



The 2nd part is here

Sweden in Focus: INTERVIEW: The past, present and future of Sweden's zero-tolerance drug policy

https://play.acast.com/s/77ca3392-3d6f-434f-8821-6472a6c25d8d/642ef68c65d9170011e7825d





How did Sweden end up with its zero-tolerance attitude to drugs? (for many Swedes pot equals heroin)

Sweden has one of the most conservative attitudes to narcotic use in the world. But as recently as the 1940s, the use of amphetamines was not only legal but encouraged. We spoke to Johan Wicklén, author of a book on Sweden's zero-tolerance policy.

https://www.thelocal.se/20230503/how-did-sweden-end-up-with-its-zero-tolerance-attitude-to-drugs/

https://archive.is/5Wdiw



Wicklén, a prize-winning journalist for Sweden's public broadcaster SVT, last year published a book on the history of Swedish drugs policy titled Vi ger oss aldrig, or "We will never give way", subtitled: "This is what happened when Sweden lost the war on drugs". Generations of Swedes, Wicklén argues, have been through a process of indoctrination on drug use and drug policy, making it difficult for policy makers today to propose more rational, pragmatic solutions to the problem.

"Indoctrination", he admits in an an interview for the Sweden in Focus podcast, is "a word you're not supposed to use recreationally. But in this case, I worked on my book for two and a half years. I've been deep down the archives. I've have done my due diligence. And it's absolutely has been an indoctrination process, and you can see it in a million ways." He said that since the late 1960s, government after government has constantly sought to drill a zero-tolerance message into the public mind.

"What you can see is different amounts of political propaganda in different time periods, sometimes harder, sometimes a bit softer. But information has always been a big part of this, up until maybe the middle of the 1990s," he reports. People who went to school in the 1980s were particularly heavily indoctrinated into the idea that all illegal drugs are dangerous, with cannabis use inexorably leading to heroin addiction, and a zero-tolerance approach the only political solution. "There's a big generational gap. It's really easy to see which generations have been through this indoctrination process," Wicklén said.

Sweden's hardline stance on drugs was set in the late 1970s, Wicklén reports. "That's when the authorities formulated the idea of a drug-free society. That's when we were starting to distance ourselves from a lot of other countries. The policy is restrictive: that means that illegal drugs are not tolerated in any way. In the 1970s, our politicians stipulated that non-medical drug use was foreign to Swedish culture. It could never be tolerated." Surprisingly in the 1920s, cocaine use was widespread and in the 1930s and 1940s use of amphetamines, which Wicklén describes as 'the most Swedish drug of them all' was positively encouraged.

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Takket

(22,865 posts)
32. who the hell does he think signed off on Smith's case? The tooth fairy?
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 06:47 PM
Jun 2023

it is all just political bullshit anyway. Pence knows drumpf is guilty as shit, he and the other rethugs are just tossing red mean to the base. we really shouldn't take these statements too seriously. Though the SHOULD be used by Democrats to portray rethugs as soft on crime.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
34. Maybe if we acted it out on a flannel board?
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 06:54 PM
Jun 2023

You know, like they do in Sunday school?

"Okay Mike, here's Donald high-tailing it out of Washington when he was forced at last to vacate the White House. Here's President Biden and Dr. Biden being snubbed by your hero, and having to go hunting for someone with a key. Here's Donald arriving in Florida and unloading his plane. There's one box of classified documents. Now two, three, four, I'm going to run out of little felt boxes. Let's just designate each square as 10 boxes. Fifty, sixty, seventy. Now here's Donald moving them into his bedroom, the ballroom, the pool shed, the crapper. They sure pile up, don't they?"

"Now, here's Donald, lying to his attorneys and lying to the FBI about turning over all the records. Here he is telling everyone that all the classified documents are his, and that he de-classified them all with his stable genius beautiful mind. Remember what the Bible says about lying, Mike? God's kind of against that. But Donald lied and lied and lied some more. What do you suppose God thinks about that? And since those documents and boxes didn't belong to him, Donald stole them from their rightful owners. What is God's official stance on stealing? Do you know, Mike? Yes, God doesn't like stealing."

Get it now, Mike?

Cheezoholic

(2,704 posts)
40. You see Mike, this is why you can't be President
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:15 PM
Jun 2023

All Garland does is basically make sure Smith followed the rules in gathering and presenting evidence to the GJ. These regular US citizens determine, from whats presented to them, if there's enough and of whom to indict. That's the purpose of a Special Council, to prevent the Executive Branch from weaponizing the DOJ the way your crew does.

So why don't you try demanding the answers you seek from the regular US citizens on the GJ, after you pass a high school civics test, you pathetic POS!!

SayItLoud

(1,750 posts)
43. Penis is talking to the base who are too stupid to know they are stupid.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:19 PM
Jun 2023

One in 3 trump supporters are just as stupid as the other 2.

Botany

(73,188 posts)
48. The man puts the dumb ass back into stupid mother...
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:30 PM
Jun 2023

..fucker.

"He said the country has the right to know the basis of the
decision to indict Trump." It was all right there in the 40 +
pages that were filed in the indictments and if that isn't enough he can see it next Tuesday in the arrangement or during the trial.

Marthe48

(20,025 posts)
50. I think the indictment makes it clear
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:40 PM
Jun 2023

I think the pictures make it clear.

I think that traitor saying he took the documents makes it clear.

If it isn't clear by now to some people why the 37 count indictment was brought, nothing else will make it clear to some people because they don't want it to be made clear. You could staple papers traitor took to their foreheads and it wouldn't matter.

Like Monty Python said: "IT'S A FAIR COP." Or even better:

NH Ethylene

(31,028 posts)
52. He's only saying this to look good to the far right; he's delighted about the indictments.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:47 PM
Jun 2023

All the GOP candidates are salivating for Trump to be weeded out of the race, and indictments are their best chance.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
55. Pence
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:54 PM
Jun 2023

All Pence cares about is staying in the good graces with Trump's base. The problem for Pence, though, is the damage has been done, due to J6

quakerboy

(14,283 posts)
56. Integrety is not in this human
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:58 PM
Jun 2023

And integrity was the only real thing he purported to have to offer.

Rhiannon12866

(227,979 posts)
57. Huh?? Exactly what crimes did Merrick Garland witness first hand??
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:58 PM
Jun 2023

He's been busy with the numerous divisions within DOJ, that's why he appointed Special Counsel Jack Smith.

ancianita

(39,564 posts)
58. Which absolutely proves that the fake, unpresidential Pence refuses to read. Just like Trump.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 07:59 PM
Jun 2023

DallasNE

(7,682 posts)
59. The Answer To Pence's Questions Are All
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:01 PM
Jun 2023

To be found in the indictment. All he needs to do is to read it.

AllyCat

(17,487 posts)
61. He did Mike. He released the indictment to the public.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:07 PM
Jun 2023

It’s all in there and justified. He was going to kill you Mike. Why do you carry water for him?

LowerManhattanite

(2,433 posts)
65. Hate to break it you Mother-Lover...
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 08:21 PM
Jun 2023

…but this cynical little stand ain’t gonna make 45’s gosse-steppers hate you any less or want you any less dead for not chucking democracy in the dustbin on 1/6.

Go read the actual indictment to see the justification, you low-rent Race(ist) Bannon.

EndlessWire

(7,479 posts)
71. Hypocrite.
Sat Jun 10, 2023, 10:26 PM
Jun 2023

The guy got a pass from DOJ for his misplaced document. Then, he goes on above how he's seen a lot of politicization from the DOJ. How convenient for him, that he gets to make these remarks after he is safe. Trump would have been safe, too, had he given the docs back in a timely fashion, or never taken them to begin with.

MissMillie

(39,073 posts)
75. He doesn't have to, but he should
Sun Jun 11, 2023, 07:41 AM
Jun 2023

Seriously.

During Watergate, it may have been the smartest thing Archibald Cox did.

Going on TV and explaining things keeps TFG and his minions from having the ONLY narrative in the court of public opinion. And while I know the court of public opinion takes a back seat to a court of law, I think it's still a positive thing to not leave the whole story to the criminal thug and his cult.

dlk

(12,557 posts)
77. So, why didn't Republicans indict Hillary when they had the chance?
Sun Jun 11, 2023, 02:21 PM
Jun 2023

Because this tired old talking point was never based on facts or evidence. They need to get over it and just move on.

ancianita

(39,564 posts)
81. That's how Pence sees Attorneys General status -- as publicly challengeable to answer to HIM.
Wed Jun 14, 2023, 10:56 PM
Jun 2023

Fuck Pence and the sycophant hobby horse he rode in on.

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