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(1,679 posts)But I really doubt it. 2020 wasnt particularly closeas unpopular as Trump was he still won by roughly 3.5%. And Abbott hammered Beto in 2022.
Willis88
(109 posts)If DeSantis, I can see dems pulling an upset in 2024.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Where do you get evidence for this assertion?
Because nothing I've seen from the state indicates they're getting significantly less red by 2024.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,728 posts)To control what happens in Harris County.
In retrospect, that could backfire as more voters in Texas become more aware, they will be even more determined to turn out to vote and fight the forces to suppress them.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)But, honestly, that's not how it will work.
You're assuming facts not in evidence.
Few people pay attention to political inside baseball like the Harris County election theft. I bet if you asked Harris County residents about it, you wouldn't get a majority who know about it. And a whole bunch of those who do think it's a great idea.
I strongly suspect that the numbers of those who know about it, never mind disagree with it, does not improve in the way you think it would when you get outside of Harris County.
There is no reason to think that an overwhelming number cares about or opposes the issue at all. No survey has shown it, so you'll need to explain where you get the idea that they would.
Freethinker65
(10,001 posts)They recently voted Statewide for Abbott. Some democratic gains in the State would be nice though.
TwilightZone
(25,428 posts)There are still roughly one million more Republican voters than Democrats in the state. It's trending purple, but it's likely going to take longer than many anticipate until we have the numbers to win statewide races.
Willis88
(109 posts)Texas is rapidly growing, and a lot of that growth is from blue states. A fact that repubs in Texas are well aware, hence the unconstitutional attempt to disenfranchise Harris voters.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Because many of them are not.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)Furthermore, Abbott's Legislature can disqualify Harris County (Houston) any time the results go Blue.
Willis88
(109 posts)Elessar Zappa
(13,911 posts)If that trend continues, then Texas will go blue at some point. It may be 2032 or 2036 but I strongly believe itll happen.
scarletlib
(3,410 posts)dalton99a
(81,404 posts)617Blue
(1,223 posts)just stop.
2naSalit
(86,332 posts)I think he's right. And I think that a quieter, more sophisticated version is going on in my state because it was purple until 2016. (4:08)
uponit7771
(90,304 posts)... enthusiasm that's autocracy
https://sanantonioreport.org/surprise-texas-ranks-among-worst-states-for-voting-access/
Willis88
(109 posts)JCMach1
(27,553 posts)uponit7771
(90,304 posts)JCMach1
(27,553 posts)Where the document requirements are off the chain burdensome.
They also created a system (including their websites) that always seem to give incomplete, or incorrect information.
Took months and months for my 77yo mom WITH all proper documentation to get her ID and voter registration.
Raftergirl
(1,283 posts)uponit7771
(90,304 posts)Texas is already blue, it's just repressed... Lower voter turnout In the last election than before
Voter suppression works and MAGA 8s going to put it into overdrive
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,909 posts)edhopper
(33,483 posts)from Houston, which they already passed laws to do exactly that.
In It to Win It
(8,225 posts)brooklynite
(94,359 posts)Could Texas go blue in 2018?
No.
When people point out that "Beto O'Rourke only lost by 2 pts", they fail to realize that the size of the Texas electorate is so big that 2 pts equals a quarter of a million votes. That's a huge margin to cover, and I see no sign the Democrats are able to cover it today.
Autumn
(44,982 posts)Polybius
(15,336 posts)It's more right-wing than Florida.
Demsrule86
(68,469 posts)Time will tell. Certainly, every state deserves to have folks campaign there...without a 50-state strategy, we will have no chance at winning the majorities that we need in Congress to accomplish what needs to be done.
Polybius
(15,336 posts)Or as I like to say, the 47 state strategy, since 3 are hopeless. But sure, campaign in Texas. We won't win the Presidency there, but may make local gains (although I doubt it in a Presidential year, but we can try).
dawg
(10,621 posts)It's way more purple now than places like Iowa and Indiana.
Polybius
(15,336 posts)I don't see how we do better, but feel free to bookmark.
SWBTATTReg
(22,077 posts)Texans I think are mad and bound to vote massively in numbers to make it up.
Sky Jewels
(7,018 posts)Texas never fails to disappoint.
But, stranger things have happened.
Silent3
(15,148 posts)But Republicans are using their current power to suppress Democratic votes, even setting themselves up to override elections where Democrats win.
Texas probably can't go blue until the voters are so overwhelmingly blue that Republican corruption is overpowered. That probably won't happen anytime soon.
Initech
(100,040 posts)Until it actually happens, I will believe it. Fox News has an iron grip on that state. We need to start loosening it now.
Aristus
(66,294 posts)But it looks like the trend is toward more Hispanic voters supporting the GOP due to cultural conservatism. Texas turning Blue is going to have to wait.
Celerity
(43,120 posts)plus a huge amount (nationwide) switching from Catholicism to RW fundie evangelicalism
I have posted on this for years
LetMyPeopleVote
(144,936 posts)There are a good number of die hard Democrats working to turn Texas blue. Greg Abbot and the Texas GOP are working hard to stop this process. There are some demographic trends that make me smile. Texas is becoming less rural and more urban/suburban. The GOP strenght is in rural areas. Texas is becoming younger and more liberal as older GOP voters are dying off.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)inexorable writings on the wall. When, not if what the Republicans have become is rejected by most.
TexasDem69
(1,679 posts)Who are lifelong Republicans and voted for Biden in 2020. Im sure that happened all over the state and Trump still won comfortably. Abbott beat Beto by 10 points in 2022. I wonder if McConaughey would have a chance against Abbott or as a senate candidate but someone incredibly popular as a person is the only hope I see. Sort of a reverse Schwarzenegger.
f_townsend
(260 posts)and got nothing. Meanwhile, states that should have never have turned GOP, like Wisconsin, got neglected and didn't get campaign money, and Democrats lost their grip there, too.
Unless a genius Democratic strategist emerges, I don't see Texas turning blue anytime soon.
Celerity
(43,120 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(3,486 posts)With the amount of suppression and the fact that Hispanic voters are more conservative than conventional wisdom expects, it may never go blue.
pinkstarburst
(1,327 posts)Makes me sad to say this, as a Texan. Beto was our best hope. We have absolutely no one who can come close to winning a statewide election like he almost did against Ted Cruz, and I don't see Biden/Harris having a shot, sorry.
Johonny
(20,818 posts)And they never do
ITAL
(626 posts)It hasn't been that long.
Texas hasn't voted for a Democrat since Jimmy Carter.
Hopefully there is DeSantis backlash with the discrimination against LBGQ+
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)The rural areas are deep-fried red, and enough of the MAGAts live in burbs and cities to overtake the liberal strongholds. As Latinos become less "otherized" in the state--and more of them join evangelical churches, they're becoming more MAGAt, too.
I hope it will go red, but hope counts for bugger all in politics. I expect it to stay red until I die, because the odds say that is the more likely scenario.
Lots of hate in Texas. Always has been.
UTUSN
(70,649 posts)Captain Stern
(2,199 posts)Anything is possible, I guess.
But when the 'trend' is that the state is 'becoming' 'purple"...that's not looking good for 2024.
I'd say more like 2044.