Mon May 29, 2023, 08:43 PM
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (102,350 posts)
Florida supporters of abortion rights ready to fight back -- possibly with ballot referendum
Floridians Protecting Freedom, a group that supports the right to legal abortion, has assembled leaders of kindred organizations in hopes of gathering the nearly 900,000 signatures required for a 2024 ballot measure that would affirm the right to an abortion in the state constitution.
Those joining the effort include Planned Parenthood, the statewide voting rights organization Florida Rising and the American Civil Liberties Union. “We need to do something to make sure that the right to an abortion is explicitly stated in the constitution,” said Amy Weintraub, reproductive rights program director for Progress Florida. Other such groups are also re-energizing and increasing their fundraising efforts. Since 1976, the Women’s Emergency Network has been helping individuals pay for abortions in the state of Florida. Except under limited exceptions, abortion procedures are not covered by Medicaid — and the network has helped women cover the costs. https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-supporters-abortion-rights-ready-100000990.html
|
6 replies, 514 views
Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
![]() |
Author | Time | Post |
![]() |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin | May 2023 | OP |
BOSSHOG | May 2023 | #1 | |
In It to Win It | May 2023 | #4 | |
BOSSHOG | May 2023 | #5 | |
In It to Win It | May 2023 | #6 | |
roamer65 | May 2023 | #2 | |
In It to Win It | May 2023 | #3 |
Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Mon May 29, 2023, 09:03 PM
BOSSHOG (35,452 posts)
1. The last thing conservative zealots want
Is for abortion to be on any ballot. Just ask Kansas Catholics. They smugly and optimistically put an abortion ban on the ballot last summer, spending 4 million bucks in tax exempt money, saying fuck you to the separation of church and state, and got their asses kicked 59-41%. Wonder how many Catholic women voted HELL NO.
It’s so much easier to allow nasty old white men in state legislators do their dirty work. If men could get pregnant, abortions would be free and available with door dash. |
Response to BOSSHOG (Reply #1)
Mon May 29, 2023, 10:39 PM
In It to Win It (7,318 posts)
4. That percentage wouldn't be enough to pass in Florida. It would need 60%
At the very least, if it doesn't pass, it'll boost participation of Democratic voters if it gets on the ballot in 2024. With that boost, it may help us get some much needed wins here in Florida.
|
Response to In It to Win It (Reply #4)
Mon May 29, 2023, 10:47 PM
BOSSHOG (35,452 posts)
5. Good Luck to you all
We are saddled with Neanderthals in the Kansas State legislature but we’ve had a fiesty democratic Governor, Laura Kelly who hasn’t been deterred from using her veto pen.
Dems had no problem rallying support for the NO Vote despite every effort by those people to make it sound like the yes vote would overturn the ban (sadly for them they were dealing with rational humans.). And the bad guys scheduled the constitutional amendment vote during a primary election banking on little dem turn out. Go get ‘em Florida. |
Response to BOSSHOG (Reply #5)
Mon May 29, 2023, 11:42 PM
In It to Win It (7,318 posts)
6. I'm one to believe that we already voted on it.
...and I'm skeptical of putting abortion back on the ballot again.
Just as Kansas voted last year on their abortion ballot initiative, we had a similar vote here in Florida about a decade ago. The anti-abortion side failed getting about 45% "yes" votes, needing 60% 'yes' votes. This initiative flips that around, with us as the pro-choice side needing to get 60% to vote "YES." Separately, the Montana Supreme Court unanimously (with both Republican and Democratic appointed justices) reaffirmed the right to an abortion under the state constitution's right to privacy like maybe 2 weeks ago. Like Montana, Florida has an explicit right to privacy in the state constitution meant to protect privacy rights including but not limited to abortion. All of the abortion ballot measures so far have been the Republicans trying to limit abortion, meaning their side is the one that has the burden of getting 60% of voters to vote "YES" for them. Thus far, the Florida Supreme Court has stuck to that. They have constantly struck down statutes over the last 2 decades attempting to limit abortion for violating the state constitution's right to privacy. That's why Republicans have needed to constantly put abortion on the ballot. The voters of Florida voted for an explicit right to privacy to protect privacy rights, and rejected subsequent attempts to limit abortion... and that's on top of the Florida Supreme Court striking down abortion-limiting laws in the last 2 decades. While we can guess what Florida Supreme Court will do, we really don't know. As far as I'm aware, no justice on the Florida Supreme Court that has heard an abortion case in the Florida Supreme Court has ever disputed that privacy right protects abortion, including every Republican-appointed justice. I hope that will remain this year. My skepticism is that if the Court upholds the current interpretation of the right to privacy, then putting abortion back on the ballot is giving up a winning hand I think because 60% is a high hurdle. Getting any less 60% will give the forced-birthers all the momentum to say Florida is a pro-life state. But I hope to be wrong. |
Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Mon May 29, 2023, 09:57 PM
roamer65 (36,167 posts)
2. ...
![]() This is gonna be good. Florida women will get it passed and basically say “Fuck you, DeSatan.” |
Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)
Mon May 29, 2023, 10:35 PM
In It to Win It (7,318 posts)
3. At this point in time, I don't believe it'll get the required 60% needed to pass
I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not confident.
I think it'll get at least 50%, but not at least 60%. Somewhere in between. |