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Thu May 25, 2023, 03:46 PM

We really need a Department of Climate.... even a Cabinet position..just throwing this out there...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_the_United_States

Why, because leaving everything to corporate incentives or tax credit incentives doesn't lead to research that could prove ground breaking. We give a tax incentive to purchase electric vehicles that are priced at levels many or most Americans cannot afford, and corporations raise their prices. Corporate motivation isn't the same. We often speak of all the innovations related to NASA.

Some regulations by themselves have worked, such as mileage and emission requirements for vehicles.

There are so many aspects to this: USA solutions, poorer country solutions, aspects of energy efficiency and types of energy, transportation, buildings, solar, nuclear, all forms of energy, emissions carbon and methane, the list is huge.

.......Yet, where is the focus by our government on climate?





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Reply We really need a Department of Climate.... even a Cabinet position..just throwing this out there... (Original post)
NowsTheTime May 25 OP
Shermann May 25 #1
NowsTheTime May 25 #3
anciano May 25 #2
Kaleva May 25 #4
NowsTheTime May 25 #6
Kaleva May 25 #7
Elessar Zappa May 25 #8
Kaleva May 25 #10
tinrobot May 25 #5
NowsTheTime May 25 #9
DFW May 25 #11
Brenda May 25 #12
Celerity May 25 #13
Brenda May 25 #14
Celerity May 25 #16
walkingman May 25 #15
keithbvadu2 May 25 #17

Response to NowsTheTime (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:12 PM

1. You may as well call it the Department of the New World Order as far as the right is concerned

Look at how they ginned up the base over the IPCC "bogeymen". It's as profane as any other four-letter word in certain circles.

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Response to Shermann (Reply #1)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:25 PM

3. Agree.......they are profane in every way possible....they're even creative at being profane..

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Response to NowsTheTime (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:20 PM

2. I agree,

but, sadly, whether or not we collectively acknowledge and embrace the need for responsible environmental stewardship is yet to be determined.

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Response to NowsTheTime (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:31 PM

4. Do we need a Dept to tell us the future is very bleak?

That people need to start preparing for what's coming?

The US alone, even if it adopted extraordinary measures to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, cannot prevent it

Report after report posted here tells us the house is already on fire and it's spreading rapidly. The time to creatin a task force to discuss and implement fire prevention methods is over .

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #4)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:36 PM

6. I have children and grandchildren......and am not ready to call in the dogs!

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Response to NowsTheTime (Reply #6)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:38 PM

7. I work most every day on projects that will help them adapt.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #4)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:39 PM

8. No, we can still prevent a worse-case scenario

where we hit 3 or 4 degrees Celsius. Im not sure were up to the challenge but it is possible.

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Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #8)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:43 PM

10. Maybe but I wouldn't bank on it

To achieve a middle of the road scenario, global emissions will have to stabilize now and then start to decrease by mid century.

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Response to NowsTheTime (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:34 PM

5. Isn't that basically the EPA?

The EPA that has been systematically gutted?

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Response to tinrobot (Reply #5)

Thu May 25, 2023, 04:43 PM

9. The problem is too big for the EPA, and the EPA has traditionally been focused on pollution.

......and yes SCOTUS has been doing their level best to undercut it....it conflicts with corporate wants

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Response to NowsTheTime (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 05:05 PM

11. We already have one. Sorta. We just need to give it a budget and a LOT of muscle

Change the EPA to emphasize the middle word: "PROTECTION."

Then give it FBI-like authority to do just that. I mean subpoenas, guns and handcuffs. We don't need MORE bureaucracy, just improve what is already there, and give it the chance to do what its name says it's there for. If someone is polluting a town and tripling the number of cancer cases, which is already three times too high, give the EPA the authority to shut the polluter down, arrest the officers for murder or attempted murder, and make them pay the medical bills of their victims before seeing the light of day.

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Response to NowsTheTime (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 05:23 PM

12. The biggest problem with climate change in the USA isn't on your list.

It is: MASS MIGRATION OF CLIMATE REFUGEES WITHIN THE USA. This will be happening within the next decade.

People ignore or assign other reasons to the influx of climate immigrants into the US and Europe and elsewhere.

We really don't need another Federal Department filled with glacial moving bureaucracy. Al Gore educated himself and worked with an expert climatologist (a man I used to work with btw) and many others in order to make the fact based documentary "An Inconvenient Truth."

That was 17 fucking years ago!

Biden is providing rebates, tax credits, etc. promoting EV's, solar, wind, energy saving home improvements, etc. Which is great.

But the number one thing our government should be preparing for is the mass movement of climate refugees from flooded/storm ravaged coastlines, heat and drought ravaged western and prairie states and rural areas nationwide unable to afford rebuilding after extreme weather events which are now weekly occurrences in the USA.

These events and the number of people on the move will only increase exponentially, determined not only by the climate/weather disasters but by the reinsurance industry which is already in crisis in at least two states: Florida and Louisiana.

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Response to NowsTheTime (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 05:32 PM

13. MAGAts dream of a Department of Rolling Coal



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Response to Celerity (Reply #13)

Thu May 25, 2023, 05:37 PM

14. Way to elevate the discussion. Not. nt

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Response to Brenda (Reply #14)

Thu May 25, 2023, 05:48 PM

16. I aim to please!

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Response to NowsTheTime (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 05:46 PM

15. I think a cabinet position is an excellent idea. That way MAYBE it will the attention it deserves.

I can't understand the denial from the right since the problem has nothing to do with political parties. I think it is our worship of capitalism in America or maybe even the religious belief that some GOD is gonna save us from ourselves - neither of which are based on science but rather ignorance, science denial, or just plain politics.

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Response to NowsTheTime (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2023, 06:32 PM

17. Who believes in climate change? Insurance companies do.

Who believes in climate change? Insurance companies do.

Even in states far away.

Politicians try to ignore it and trivialize it because they might have to do something.
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Florida Home Buyers BLINDSIDED By TREMENDOUS Cost To Own"

He emphasizes insurance costs.



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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/roofing-scams-florida-property-insurance-hurricane-rcna29649

Eight insurance companies operating in Florida have gone out of business since 2021,
including three in the past three months. Those that remain have sought rate increases ranging from 15 percent to 96 percent and have become more selective about who they will cover; some are asking homeowners to replace their roof in order to get a new policy.
Others are dropping customers; one company recently announced that it was canceling 56,000 policies.
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Ron DeSantis Just Made His State's Insurance Crisis Much Worse

https://crooksandliars.com/2023/03/why-do-they-think-ron-desantis-doing-good

He pushed through a bill that protected insurance companies from lawsuits.

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