Jose Andres@chefjoseandres @GregAbbott_TX : nobody is illegal in heaven "dear" governor! Nobody!

[BeckyDem]

Link to tweet

( Abbott is a sick man looking to find a means to minimize those murdered by insane gun violence he perpetuates )

[malaise]

1. That doesn't work for me

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We need to clean up this planet not some pie in the sky

If I thought like the Texas Governor I’d blame that tree for failing when falling.

[Tommy Carcetti]

3. You're attacking Chef Andres?

For making a reference to heaven?

[JanLip]

6. Heaven is very real to me

And I hope those victims are all there. Especially the child

Jan

[malaise]

7. Love him as aperson

But we disagree on this one.

[Tommy Carcetti]

8. Why did your mind go there though?

We have a truly atrocious quote from Abbott, and you call out Andres because of a disagreement on the concept of an afterlife?

Just seems to be petty and misguided.

[malaise]

9. Huh?

There is no heaven in my world view - I believe in cleaning up this planet
My world view is mine - and is neither petty nor misguided. Everyone is entitled to believe what they want.

[Tommy Carcetti]

10. That's fine.

Nothing wrong with believing that.

I just don't know why that's what you decided to take away from that exchange.

[ShazzieB]

19. I took that to mean something quite different.

When Andres said no one is illegal in heaven, I took that as a poetic way of saying that no one should be considered illegal anywhere. I certainly don't think he meant belief in an afterlife means we don't need to clean things up and solve the world's problems in this one, and I'm at a loss as to why you would assume that. I honestly think you have misinterpreted the man's intentions.

I know that not everyone believes in an afterlife, but a large number of people do, and there is a W I D E range of beliefs among them. Many who believe in a hereafter of some sort are also deeply concerned about conditions in this earthly life and working hard to improve things. (One rather famous example: Joe Biden.) If you think that believing in an afterlife and working to improve things in this life are mutually exclusive, I'm afraid you are VERY MUCH mistaken.

[malaise]

23. I have relatives who are liberation theologists

and yes there are many people who believe in both but Abbott is not one of them. Those people use religion as a prop - ask Justin Jones - he just called one of them out in their legislature.

On the other hand I'm old enough to remember who sat in the front pews - just like the front of the bus.

[ShazzieB]

24. I thought it was Andres' comment that you had a negative reaction to.

I was talking about Andres, not Abbott. I thought you were offended by Andres referring to heaven, and that's what I was trying to address.

Greg Abbott is a sick fuck, as far as I'm concerned, and I don't care what his opinion is about anything!

All I was doing was trying to defend Chef Andres, who is a great humanitarian and does a lot to help people. If he's not the one you were offended by, then I must have misread your intentions. Sorry if that was the case.

[malaise]

25. Why would he mention that to Abbott

Abbott even hates the effin trees.
Religion is a prop for RWs.

[ShazzieB]

26. I'm honestly pretty confused right now.

As I said, I thought Andres was implying that no one should be considered illegal anywhere. I imagine he thought Abbott needed to hear that. Probably didn't do any good where Abbott is concerned, but any time you tweet something, loads of people see it, not just the person you're tweeting at.

Here's Andres' tweet in its enturety:

@GregAbbott_TX nobody is illegal in heaven “dear” governor! Nobody! And in life at the most are just undocumented! You speak with hate about immigrants, and that rhetoric is what may have created this situation in the first place. Show some empathy…that’s what good leaders do.

Andres is rebuking Abbott in this tweet, rebuking him pretty strongly, not writing him a fan letter or expressing agreement with him. In referring to "heaven," he was using poetic language to tell Abbott he was WRONG. I think that was a fine thing to do, and I'm glad lots of people got to see him do it!

[Tommy Carcetti]

28. Exactly.

Abbott is acting like a false Christian.

Chef Andres--whether you yourself subscribe to any religious belief or not--is reminding him that if he wants to profess to be a Christian, he should first start acting like one.

Not sure how its bad of Chef Andres to point that fact out.

[ShazzieB]

29. Very well stated!

I think Andres was using language he thought Abbott might be able to understand on some level. I'm sure he knew it was very unlikely that Abbott would really hear what he was saying, but some things are worth saying, even if they fall on deaf ears.

[Sibelius Fan]

2. Heaven? Does the childishness never end?

What malaise said.

[Tommy Carcetti]

4. *That's* your takeaway?

Abbott dehumanizes victims of a crime, but God forbid (no pun intended) one of the greatest living humanitarians make a reference to heaven?

[MMBeilis]

17. You got that right Tommy. I'd suggest that the Chef's distractors consider that Andres'.....

.....Christianity is much more than lip service, as he goes about Christ's work every day and he deserves to be cut a little slack by even an atheist like me.

[ShazzieB]

20. Exactly!

As I said above, when Andres said no one is illegal in heaven, I took that as a poetic way of saying that no one should be considered illegal anywhere. I thought that was very nice, and I'm baffled at the assumptions some people seem to be making.

The word "heaven" seems to be highly triggering for some people. Who knew?

[Maeve]

5. Thank you, Chef

Abbott was out of line

[mitch96]

16. +1.. Love the Chef.. An instrument of good. Donate when you can WCK.org nt

[MarcA]

11. Gov. strangelove puts legal immigration status over

out of control gun culture issues.

[erronis]

12. Thank you, BeckyDem. I don't understand how some have taken Chef Andres comments as being

anti-heaven - or whatever.

It made sense to me.

Abbott and his ilk are evil - by design.

[BeckyDem]

13. You're welcome. I agree, Abbott is evil, you have to be in order to classify humans as he does.

He knew how that would read in a tweet.

[ShazzieB]

21. I think Xhef Abdres' comments are being taken the wrong way because he used the wrong word.

I guess the word "heaven" must carry triggering associations for some people.

When Andres said no one is illegal in heaven, I took that as a poetic way of saying that no one should be considered illegal anywhere, and I thought it was a lovely sentiment. I still do.

I think it's sad the way some are misconstruing the words of this great humanitarian.

[IronLionZion]

14. It exposes the hypocrisy of these religious frauds

as Abbott goes out of his way to highlight people's immigration status after their violent deaths at the hands of psychopath with a gun.

[Jilly_in_VA]

15. Nobody's illegal in hell either

and may Abbutt soon find himself in that very hot place for eternity!

[MMBeilis]

18. Perfect.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

22. Chef Jos Andrs DESTROYS Texas Governor Gregg Abbott

Link to tweet

Chef José Andrés DESTROYS Texas Governor Gregg Abbott for dehumanizing five Texas mass shooting victims by calling them “illegal immigrants.”

He also BLAMED Abbott’s hateful rhetoric for causing the shooting in the first place.

“Nobody is illegal in heaven ‘dear’ governor! Nobody!” Andres wrote.

“And in life at the most are just undocumented! You speak with hate about immigrants, and that rhetoric is what may have created this situation in the first place. Show some empathy…that’s what good leaders do.”

The comments came after Abbott announced a $50K reward for info who killed 5 Texas immigrants but disgustingly referred to the murder victims as “illegal.”

Gregg Abbott is a sick man for seeking to minimize those murdered by insane gun violence he perpetuates.

[BeckyDem]

27. Jose has a reputation for good, I am guessing even the cons like him for the most part.

If he is going after you, it's because you're that awful.