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a GOP mega-donor purchased the house Clarence Thomas' mother lives in several years ago and spruced it up. Thomas didn't disclose it. This news is just coming to light.
I'm waiting to hear if Thomas' nother lives there rent-free or not.
What a shady deal. Why couldn't Thomas fix up his own mothers house? The man is not living hand to mouth where he can help his own mother.
This smells/looks so bad. Thomas already seems corrupt with not reporting the two-decade long acceptance of millions of dollars of gift, luxury trips, now it looks like he is a wholly-owned, in-the-pocket justice of Harlan Crow.
My God.
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,644 posts)mobeau69
(11,401 posts)Pinback
(12,658 posts)I donate to them every year and encourage everyone who has room in their budget to support Pro Publica financially. I also have one of their coffee mugs and a T-shirt, which looks nifty and is comfortable.
Tanuki
(15,100 posts)calimary
(83,423 posts)AllyCat
(16,772 posts)Pinback
(12,658 posts)krkaufman
(13,595 posts)Seems appropriate that this reporting is coming out somewhat concurrent to the 60 Minutes whitewashing interview of Marge Greene. Really highlights great journalism vs what passes for it in most venues.
Sneederbunk
(14,861 posts)mobeau69
(11,401 posts)Down goes Thomas. Down goes Thomas.
MontanaMama
(23,826 posts)The IS bad.
Cha
(302,585 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)ANYone else to pay to do basic refurbishing of his mother's home. And that he didn't do it himself.
How does he integrate this with his black nationalist and patriarchal ideology, btw, and his belief that remaining independent of white America is critical to protecting the strength of black people, males especially?
Caliman73
(11,767 posts)He believes in his own power and status. Whatever will allow him to live the lifestyle he believes he deserves is what he believes.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)basis anyway, seems mostly made up to indulge his many bad personality traits, on judicial issues also, not just his taste for sips of a billionaire lifestyle.
Ideologically, he believes in black patriarchy and thinks Jim Crow-level oppression makes black men more powerful, that integration and equality are institutionalization of racism that destroys them. His intensely racist answer to save black people from white is nationwide black self segregation from white. He claims the constitution so intensely antiblack that it can never not be harmful, even if it were entirely rewritten -- which he's almost in a position to largely do.
A nasty, extremist creep who sold his mother's home to a white billionaire who apparently allows her to live in his property as part of a favor to Justice Thomas. Because just standard purchasing of judicial favor isn't low enough.
MacKasey
(1,102 posts)CanonRay
(14,685 posts)but I wonder how much Crow really gave him. I'm suspicious by nature.
brush
(56,265 posts)Thomas is so pitiful. He makes good money. Could afford to fix up his own mothers house.
He's just in Crow's pocket.
SCOTUS...I don't know...someone paid off beer boy's 6-figure depts when he was up for comfirmation.
How deep does the corruption run.
flying_wahini
(7,669 posts)Id better call my tax guy ..
Ms. Toad
(35,152 posts)It is the donor who has to report gifts annually and, if large enough, pay taxes on then at death.
SunSeeker
(53,084 posts)New fence, new roof, etc.
TheBlackAdder
(28,654 posts)AllyCat
(16,772 posts)blue neen
(12,393 posts)He needs to go.
TNNurse
(7,050 posts)so were are surprised there is another one on the Supreme Court for decades???
H2O Man
(74,774 posts)The guy is so corrupt.
CORRUPT MOTHERFUCKER
patphil
(6,730 posts)Clarence Thomas has got to go!
LiberalFighter
(53,108 posts)His previous job did not qualify him.
Standards apparently don't mean anything.
brush
(56,265 posts)justices was a judge before being confirmed as a SCOTUS justice. You might recall his qualifications were questioned heatedly during the confirmation fight...the Anita Hill affair.
LiberalFighter
(53,108 posts)Celerity
(46,154 posts)Name of Justice Prior Occupations Years On Court Appointed By President:
Elena Kagan U.S. Solicitor General 2010-present Obama
William Rehnquist Asst. U.S. Attorney General 1972-2005 Nixon (Assoc., 1972),
Reagan (Chief, 1986)
Lewis Powell President of the American Bar Ass'n,
Private Practice 1972-1987 Nixon
Abe Fortas Private Practice 1965-1969 Johnson
Byron White Deputy U.S. Attorney General 1962-1993 Kennedy
Arthur Goldberg U.S. Secretary of Labor 1962-1965 Kennedy
Earl Warren Governor of California 1953-1969 Eisenhower
Tom Clark U.S. Attorney General 1949-1967 Truman
Harold Burton U.S. Senator 1945-1958 Truman
Robert Jackson U.S. Attorney General 1941-1954 F. Roosevelt
James Francis Byrnes U.S. Senator 1941-1942 F. Roosevelt
William O. Douglas Chairman of the S.E.C. 1939-1975 F. Roosevelt
Felix Frankfurter Asst. U.S. Attorney, Asst. Secretary of War,
Prof. of Law at Harvard 1939-1962 F. Roosevelt
Stanley Forman Reed U.S. Solicitor General 1938-1957 F. Roosevelt
Owen Josephus Roberts Special Counsel in "Teapot Dome" investigation and trials 1930-1945 Hoover
Harlan Fiske Stone U.S. Attorney General 1925-1946 Coolidge (Assoc., 1925),
F. Roosevelt (Chief, 1941)
Pierce Butler County Attorney, Private Practice 1923-1939 Harding
George Sutherland U.S. Senator 1922-1938 Harding
Louis Brandeis Private Practice 1916-1939 Wilson
James Clark McReynolds U.S. Attorney General 1914-1941 Wilson
Charles Evans Hughes Governor of New York,
U.S. Secretary of State 1910-1916,
1930-1941 Taft (Assoc., 1910),
Hoover (Chief, 1930)
William Henry Moody U.S. Attorney General 1906-1910 T. Roosevelt
George Shiras, Jr Private Practice 1892-1903 Harrison
Melville Fuller Private Practice 1888-1910 Cleveland
Lucius Quintus Cincinnatus Lamar U.S. Secretary of the Interior, U.S. Senator 1888-1893 Cleveland
Joseph Philo Bradley Private Practice 1870-1892 Grant
Salmon P. Chase U.S. Treasury Secretary 1864-1873 Lincoln
Samuel Freeman Miller Private Practice 1862-1890 Lincoln
Noah Haynes Swayne U.S. Attorney for Ohio, Ohio Legislator 1862-1881 Lincoln
Nathan Clifford Maine & U.S. Attorney General 1858-1881 Buchanan
John Archibald Campbell Alabama Legislator 1853-1861 Pierce
Benjamin Robbins Curtis Massachusetts Legislator 1851-1857 Fillmore
John McKinley U.S. Senator 1838-1852 Van Buren
Roger Brooke Taney Maryland & U.S. Attorney General,
U.S. Treasury Secretary 1836-1864 Jackson
Henry Baldwin U.S. Congressman 1830-1844 Jackson
Joseph Story Speaker of Mass. House of Reps., U.S. Congressman 1812-1845 Madison
John Marshall U.S. Secretary of State 1801-1835 Adams
Bushrod Washington Virginia House of Delegates,
Reporter for Virginia Court of Appeals 1799-1829 Adams
William Paterson Governor of New Jersey 1793-1806 Washington
John Jay President of the Continental Congress,
U.S. Secretary of Foreign Affairs 1789-1795 Washington
John Rutledge Governor of South Carolina 1789-1791, 1795 Washington
onenote
(43,861 posts)Not sure what the point was of the post above that suggested he didn't.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)One becomes a Supreme Court justice by being nominated by the president and confirmed by the Senate.
Justice Elena Kagen was never a judge prior to her nomination by President Obama.
Chief Justice Earl Warren - the author of Brown v. Board of Education was never a judge prior to his appointment.
Thomas served as an appellate court judge for less than a year prior to his nomination to the Supreme Court.
But what standards are you talking about?
LiberalFighter
(53,108 posts)Were the trips part of the deal?
brush
(56,265 posts)Thomas seems to be in Crow's pocket...all kind of shady stuff going on.
LiberalFighter
(53,108 posts)brush
(56,265 posts)the problem is that Thomas didn't disclosed it, just as he hasn't disclosed the two decades of luxury trips he's received from Crow.
Who know's whether there were under the table transaction from Crow to Thomas.
krkaufman
(13,595 posts)He asked colleagues and they told him that it was his mothers affairs, so he had nothing to report.
brush
(56,265 posts)Although lax, SCOTUS does have disclosure rules, which is why Thomas is being so roundly criticized.
A Supreme Court justice taking millions of dollars in gifts, and watching Crow fix up his own mother's home instead of he himself, and you see nothing wrong there? And btw, Thomas sold the house to Crow thereby letting Crow be his mother's landlord...if rent is being paid. Who knows.
Why I smell the wafts of corruption right now coming from the steaming pile. Someone is in someone else's pocket.
bronxiteforever
(9,289 posts)seem like what a Walmart parking lot loving kind of guy would do.
brush
(56,265 posts)I can just see Thoma driving a big ol' RV into a WalMart lot, struggling to park the big home-on-wheels...NOT.
Thomas never saw a super yacht he didn't salivate over.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)That's...very enticing to some substantial portion of humanity, apparently. Align themselves with the most powerful leader and they'll be safe. Align themselves with the most powerful leader who doesn't have to follow the same social or legal rules as the other potential leaders and hey, maybe the followers get to do whatever they please, too. Especially when it comes to wielding power over others.
Because as it stands right now, who is going to take Clarence down if he doesn't resign? Democrats would have to control the House to impeach him and have a two-thirds majority in the Senate to vote him out. And with red state gerrymandering as bad as it is, that is simply not going to be possible. Unless they first pass laws fixing state elections first. But then those laws will go before...the Supreme Court, who has made it clear that they have nothing to do with the way states run their elections. The coup is over, we just don't know it yet.
FakeNoose
(34,677 posts)None of this has ever been reported on Faux Noise, so how would they know?
The ultra-wealthy Repukes probably do know, and they're all for it.
LisaM
(28,278 posts)He had a personal conflict of interest, since his wife was on the Bush inauguration committee. The press didn't seem to care. No one called for his recusal.
I am surprised anyone cares now.
soldierant
(7,637 posts)The deal made Crom Thomas's mother's landlord.
I've read, heard, and said, "He's so corrupot he'd sell his own mother," but Ive never seen it actually happen before. And it doesn't matter whether she is paying rent or not - Crow legally could demand rent.
Takket
(22,353 posts)was this money laundering?
as someone else said is his mom living there "rent free"?
if this was one isolated incident, no big deal, just say so and report it now. But there is MORE than enough smoke around thomas and Crow now to justify DOJ looking to see if there is any fire. Garland should open up a file for this.
Major Nikon
(36,875 posts)There's little doubt in my mind she isn't paying rent. Why sell the home if she's going to have to pay rent? It would make no sense. It makes a lot more sense when you realize she's getting all the bills paid, improvements, and not paying rent. That's a huge windfall for Thomas because he could insulate himself from the transaction by claiming it was his mother's interest and not his. The problem is they got greedy and none of this is ever going to add up to anything they can reasonably claim wasn't corrupt as shit.
bucolic_frolic
(45,730 posts)Pepsidog
(6,291 posts)preserve for history the second African American USSC Justices childhood home. I wonder if he did anything for Thurgood Marshall or Sandra Day-OConner who were the first African American Justice and the first woman SC Justice.
japple
(10,205 posts)spooky3
(35,557 posts)It at the time of purchase?
Were not as stupid as the Rethug rubes are.
James48
(4,555 posts)The correct charge would be filing a false financial disclosure report. 18 USC 1001 makes it a five year felony to falsify the required annual financial disclosure statement.
brush
(56,265 posts)not disclosing the many luxury trip gifts he's received over the years, the discussion hasn't been about whether the non-disclosures were criminal and should be charged, it was about the seeming corruption of not disclosing the gifts received.
If they were criminal, that's another matter which certainly should be looked at.
FakeNoose
(34,677 posts)The nation has always held those Justices in the highest regard. It has always been assumed that they are all squeaky clean, until now we're finding out they aren't. Or at least ONE isn't.
Justice John Roberts, where are you?
brush
(56,265 posts)Remember beer boy's six-figure debts were paid off during his confirmation fight.
Who did that, and was Kennedy paid to step down so trump could appoint a younger republican?
IMO it's not just Thomas.
republianmushroom
(16,408 posts)capital gains tax ?
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)He didn't report it in his financial disclosure statement.
That has nothing to do with what is, or is not, in his taxes.
And if there was an IRS investigation going on, why would you expect to know about it? Do they call you whenever they open one?
NotVeryImportant
(578 posts)Is she actually using that word, "corrupt" or "corruption?"
If not, it's just more mainstream media claptrap.
brush
(56,265 posts)NotVeryImportant
(578 posts)Seems that corruption is a topic that the media doesn't like to broach.
Especially the higher up the corruption goes.
They need to hammer the airwaves w/that word, wherever and to whomever it applies.
Evolve Dammit
(17,962 posts)AncientOfDays
(188 posts)I read article where a couple of right-wing senior judges said there was no problem because Crow didn't have any cases before the SCOTUS.
I read elsewhere that Crow has interests in many of the cases that have come before the SCOTUS -- more information on that needs to be developed.
Zeitghost
(4,246 posts)Crow has no direct personal or financial interest in any decisions that the court has made.
He has a general interest in advancing conservative causes, but that is not enough to be considered a conflict of interest.
Evolve Dammit
(17,962 posts)Artcatt
(344 posts)MontanaMama
(23,826 posts)We still dont know who paid off Judge Boofs debts either.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(9,557 posts)ecstatic
(33,940 posts)as soon as possible. We all know Roberts won't do a damn thing about the moral/ethical violations.
Zeitghost
(4,246 posts)?
ecstatic
(33,940 posts)I would ask Thomas to resign asap. Once the court loses all legitimacy, there won't be anymore law and order. People will (rightfully) do whatever the f they want.
Iggo
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sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(151,757 posts)czarjak
(12,152 posts)Kid Berwyn
(17,055 posts)Along with his assorted collection of Fourth Reich Action Figures.
DFW
(55,889 posts)No one was ever led away in handcuffs for a non-disclosure violation, and since Clarence Thomas has zero sense of shame, he will not be resigning his seat on the Supreme Court over this (or anything else, I suspect). I think we will have to hope that Mother Nature decides to take him to task, because I fear he will not be taken down by our legal system. On the contrary, I suspect that he and Alito will continue to pervert it for as long as they possibly can.
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Snackshack
(2,541 posts)Is the country going to tolerate one political party that is wholly focus on getting what they can no matter who it hurts or kills. The GOP is a homegrown taliban that needs to be put in its place. The GOP no longer governs with America in its best interest. No, they block, lie, obstruct, misinform and now they have killed over 1 million Americans with their criminal behavior on COVID. All the BS the GOP has done since 2000 needs to stop and many of them need to be in jail.
It really is unbelievable how the Dems have sat by and let an impotent AG continue to let the gop that wants nothing more then to destroy them and Democracy operate with impunity, that law enforcement & accountability of someone like Matt Geatz is more than DOJ can handle....apparently. A party that has consistently lied and sat silent while DT called covid a hoax killing a million plus Americans another crime the DOJ seems unconcerned with.
We need to stop asking the GOP politely to please stop throwing rocks at us and start throwing them back. There is no compromise or negotiation that the GOP will do. Our continued survival depends on it or we will end up with a boebert or greene as president.