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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJen Psaki's show: asks 8 former trump voters what woke means. Nada. Nothing.
She played the video of them on zoom, and they had no idea at all. She then asked an author on the subject who had no explanation at all.
It's an empty dog whistle.
mucifer
(24,882 posts)Beartracks
(13,600 posts)... us knowing they're ignorant doesn't change anything about the way they vote.
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Meadowoak
(6,253 posts)Emile
(30,195 posts)RockRaven
(16,395 posts)doing so now they've got a large group of supposedly aligned people. All the different bigotries have now taken the same shape.
The same way "MAGA" is an empty vessel for grievances and grifting schemes, and QAnon is an empty vessel for conspiracy theories.
gulliver
(13,331 posts)Two can play at the game of being against something for which there is no definition. I'm against woke too. Well, whatever it is. To me it's a made-up boogeyman, just another in a long line of them.
Interviewer to Dem: Are you for woke?
Dem to Interviewer: No. I'm completely against it.
Interviewer to Dem: What exactly is it?
Dem to Interviewer: Ask the Republicans. They're the ones who made it up.
FakeNoose
(35,843 posts)It reminds me of the old term from the early 70's - or maybe it was the late 60's - it was "soul." Nobody really knew what it meant to have "soul" but we all knew that black people had it and white people wanted it. It wasn't exactly a racist term, as I recall. The greatest compliment you could give someone was to call him a "white soul brother" or a woman was a "white soul sister." Kind of silly really, it was just another example of white people appropriating the black community's culture.
That's how "woke" is being used.
Ocelot II
(121,153 posts)They say "woke" when they really mean "n-----" or any of the other slurs for non-white, non-straight/cis, non-Christian and in some cases non-female people. So they waffle and mumble some nonsense so they don't have to admit what it really means to them.
Loge23
(3,922 posts)They'll do anything to disguise the naked truth about themselves: wrap themselves in the American flag, make American great again slogans, "believe in America" "restore America" - and on and on.
We all know what they really mean and I won't repeat it here, but we all know it it's just the most base, blatant, and vile racial slur that can be imagined.
It's tragic what has taken place in this country, in 2023 yet. Never in a million years did I ever expect to see this in this country.
ZonkerHarris
(25,329 posts)Maine Abu El Banat
(3,479 posts)It's that they can't make it sound bad. My description would be simple. I would refer them to the teachings of Jesus Christ.
rickford66
(5,676 posts)The premise was, how will saying Woke, get them back to voting MAGA.
ananda
(30,853 posts)It originates from the Black community to describe
a person who is against systemic racism and oppression.
Easy peasy.
lindysalsagal
(22,398 posts)Beartracks
(13,600 posts)... that there are SYSTEMIC problems with racism, and further that such problems would require GOVERNMENT solutions.
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Celerity
(46,428 posts)exactly
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)They don't like that question.
lindysalsagal
(22,398 posts)Beartracks
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OMGWTF
(4,458 posts)because he'd have to work with "woke" people. I asked him what he meant by that, and he replied, "Gays and transvestites." I didn't bother to correct him because it wouldn't make a difference. He once told me he didn't want to hear anything that might change his core beliefs. Not sure why he's such a homophobe since he's a 70-year-old who has never been on a date with anyone. In. His. Life.
Pepsidog
(6,316 posts)didnt confront him you asked questions that revealed the depth of his ignorance.
BaronChocula
(2,519 posts)while she was at it.
IronLionZion
(47,022 posts)to be against awareness of systemic injustices. They like systemic injustices.
It's the same reason racists don't want to see my documents. They know I'm a US citizen. They just don't like that I'm a US citizen. It's easier to hate me if you pretend I'm not American somehow.
cilla4progress
(25,964 posts)Hope I can catch it somewhere else?
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Its a coded way to say ni99er - but they sure as hell aint going to acknowledge that
spanone
(137,582 posts)it's all he's got
Skittles
(159,754 posts)the problem is, they are unable to EXPLAIN the concept without expressing what they literally are: FUCKING RACIST ASSHOLES
Straw Man
(6,780 posts)They just know that black people like it.