Mon Mar 13, 2023, 06:23 PM
GGoss (1,273 posts)
Fellow Dems Say Willow Approval Leaves 'Oil Stain' on Biden Climate Legacy - CommonDreams
Fellow Dems Say Willow Approval Leaves 'Oil Stain' on Biden Climate Legacy - CommonDreams
Progressives on Capitol Hill joined climate advocates and Indigenous leaders across the country Monday in blasting U.S. President Joe Biden for his administration's approval of ConocoPhillips' Willow oil project on federal land in Alaska.
"The Biden administration has committed to fighting climate change and advancing environmental justice—today's decision to approve the Willow project fails to live up to those promises," declared U.S. Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) along with a trio of House Natural Resources Committee leaders, Reps. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), and Jared Huffman (D-Calif.). The four Democrats argued that "their decision ignores the voices of the people of Nuiqsut, our frontline communities, and the irrefutable science that says we must stop building projects like this to slow the ever more devastating impacts of climate change." In a move widely seen as an attempt to temper criticism of the decision to greenlight Willow, the Biden administration on Monday also announced new restrictions for offshore oil lease sales in the Arctic Ocean and across Alaska's North Slope. "While we acknowledge that the administration also just announced that it is conserving new public lands and waters in the Arctic, split decisions in the face of the climate crisis are not good enough," the Democrats said. Link: https://www.commondreams.org/news/progressives-congress-biden-willow-alaska
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GGoss | Mar 13 | OP |
GGoss | Mar 13 | #1 | |
GGoss | Mar 13 | #2 | |
Kid Berwyn | Mar 14 | #3 | |
tritsofme | Mar 14 | #4 | |
GGoss | Mar 14 | #5 | |
Just A Box Of Rain | Mar 14 | #12 | |
GGoss | Mar 14 | #13 | |
Rob H. | Mar 14 | #25 | |
GGoss | Mar 14 | #26 | |
Rob H. | Mar 14 | #27 | |
womanofthehills | Mar 17 | #29 | |
womanofthehills | Mar 17 | #30 | |
Just A Box Of Rain | Mar 17 | #34 | |
Hortensis | Mar 14 | #9 | |
Kaleva | Mar 14 | #6 | |
GGoss | Mar 14 | #7 | |
Kaleva | Mar 14 | #8 | |
GGoss | Mar 14 | #10 | |
Kaleva | Mar 14 | #11 | |
Tarc | Mar 14 | #14 | |
GGoss | Mar 14 | #16 | |
Just A Box Of Rain | Mar 14 | #17 | |
GGoss | Mar 14 | #18 | |
Just A Box Of Rain | Mar 14 | #19 | |
GGoss | Mar 14 | #20 | |
Just A Box Of Rain | Mar 14 | #22 | |
Just A Box Of Rain | Mar 14 | #23 | |
Tarc | Mar 17 | #28 | |
womanofthehills | Mar 17 | #31 | |
BannonsLiver | Mar 14 | #15 | |
PatSeg | Mar 14 | #21 | |
Just A Box Of Rain | Mar 14 | #24 | |
womanofthehills | Mar 17 | #32 | |
Sogo | Mar 17 | #33 |
Response to GGoss (Original post)
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 06:37 PM
GGoss (1,273 posts)
1. And...
Biden Denounced for 'Appalling' Approval of Willow Oil Project - CommonDreams
Link: https://www.commondreams.org/news/biden-approves-willow-project |
Response to GGoss (Reply #1)
Mon Mar 13, 2023, 06:38 PM
GGoss (1,273 posts)
2. And...
Green Groups Vow Fight After Biden Climate 'Betrayal' - CommonDreams
Link: https://www.commondreams.org/news/biden-approves-willow-project-2659589341 |
Response to GGoss (Original post)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 12:54 AM
Kid Berwyn (11,526 posts)
3. Last US President to stand up to Big Oil was Jimmy Carter.
How a Deep State Plot Sank Jimmy Carter
PETER DALE SCOTT WhoWhatWhy.Org, 11/02/14 The Safari Club was an alliance between national intelligence agencies that wished to compensate for the CIA’s retrenchment in the wake of President Carter’s election and Senator Church’s post-Watergate reforms. As former Saudi intelligence chief Prince Turki bin Faisal once told Georgetown University alumni,
After Carter was elected, the Safari Club allied itself with Richard Helms and Theodore Shackley against the more restrained intelligence policies of Jimmy Carter, according to Joseph Trento. In Trento’s account, the dismissal by William Colby in 1974 of CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton, combined with Watergate, is what prompted the Safari Club to start working with [former DCI Richard] Helms [then U.S. Ambassador to Iran] and his most trusted operatives outside of Congressional and even Agency purview. James Angleton said before his death that “Shackley and Helms … began working with outsiders like Adham and Saudi Arabia. The traditional CIA answering to the president was an empty vessel having little more than technical capability.”(2) Trento adds that “The Safari Club needed a network of banks to finance its intelligence operations. With the official blessing of George Bush as the head of the CIA, Adham transformed . . . the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), into a worldwide money-laundering machine.”(3) Trento claims also that the Safari Club then was able to work with some of the controversial CIA operators who had been forced out of the CIA by Turner, and that this was coordinated by Theodore Shackley: Shackley, who still had ambitions to become DCI, believed that without his many sources and operatives like [Edwin] Wilson, the Safari Club—operating with [former DCI Richard] Helms in charge in Tehran—would be ineffective. . . . Unless Shackley took direct action to complete the privatization of intelligence operations soon, the Safari Club would not have a conduit to [CIA] resources. The solution: create a totally private intelligence network using CIA assets until President Carter could be replaced. (4) Continues… https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/government-integrity/the-deep-state-plots-the-1980-defeat-of-jimmy-carter/ Saudi Roils and Petroligarchs HATE democracy. |
Response to GGoss (Original post)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 02:28 AM
tritsofme (15,784 posts)
4. CommonDreams bashing President Biden? Shocking!
Response to tritsofme (Reply #4)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 08:31 AM
GGoss (1,273 posts)
5. How Is Reporting That People Are Upset, Bashing ???
When Democratic Senators, Congress People, and allied Environmental Groups all cry foul, it's a story.
You'd prefer it was ignored ? ![]() |
Response to GGoss (Reply #5)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 11:54 AM
Just A Box Of Rain (3,913 posts)
12. Because Common Dreams is a non-stop anti-Democratic propaganda organization
that's being cited on a pro-Democratic (in theory) website.
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Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #12)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 12:11 PM
GGoss (1,273 posts)
13. Was Their Reporting Wrong ???
Because I personally know more than just a few Democrats that are upset with the Willow Project approval.
Which site do you suggest we use, to reflect that here ? ![]() |
Response to GGoss (Reply #13)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 03:31 PM
Rob H. (5,223 posts)
25. Doesn't matter whether it's right or wrong
Common Dreams didn't fawn over Clinton in 2016 or Biden in 2020 and some people have apparently decided to do everything in their power to die mad about it.
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Response to Rob H. (Reply #25)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 03:37 PM
GGoss (1,273 posts)
26. Ah... What's Gonna Happen If We Ever Have An Open Primary ???
I mean... we could have Democrat going after Democrat.
I mean...... we could have POLITICS breaking out all over the place !!! ![]() ![]() |
Response to GGoss (Reply #26)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 03:49 PM
Rob H. (5,223 posts)
27. Exactly! Imagine how horrifying that would be!
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Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #12)
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:04 PM
womanofthehills (7,274 posts)
29. OMG! Common Dreams is left/progressive
Overall, we rate Common Dreams Left Biased based on story selection and op-eds that favor the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact-check record. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/common-dreams/
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Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #12)
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:06 PM
womanofthehills (7,274 posts)
30. Hello?? Common Dreams is a progressive site
Left. Left. Left
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Response to womanofthehills (Reply #30)
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:44 PM
Just A Box Of Rain (3,913 posts)
34. I guess we have very different concepts of what's "progressive."
Left. Left. Left. I won't argue with.
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Response to tritsofme (Reply #4)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:35 AM
Hortensis (55,698 posts)
9. :) Yes, typical. Extremely, deludingly off balance and simplistic -- just right for
confirming emotional predispositions, enabling a Limbaugh's dittoheads-type leap to conviction of being informed on subjects of passionate involvement -- without being informed.
Even one properly informative article would shine a light through many deceiving holes and distortions in this one. The biggest of all -- where the reasons why should be. So readers could understand and evaluate. |
Response to GGoss (Original post)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 08:47 AM
Kaleva (34,032 posts)
6. Disapproving or approving Willow won't make a difference.
There's no evidence that not extracting oil from Willow will cause humans worldwide to consume less oil .
"World War II-style rationing could be an effective way to reduce carbon emissions, according to new research from the University of Leeds." https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/02/230220121859.htm The situation is so severe that extraordinary measures will have to be taken in order to minimize the effects of climate change. |
Response to Kaleva (Reply #6)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:16 AM
GGoss (1,273 posts)
7. Well, There Was A Thread Recently That Discussed The Difference It Might Make In Votes In 2024
In Tennis, it's called an "Unforced Error".
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Response to GGoss (Reply #7)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:27 AM
Kaleva (34,032 posts)
8. It isn't going to matter who is in office.
Response to Kaleva (Reply #8)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:36 AM
GGoss (1,273 posts)
10. I Hear Ya, The Planet Doesn't Give A Fuck About Political Affiliation
That said, I would like OUR party to be on the right side of history.
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Response to GGoss (Reply #10)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 09:58 AM
Kaleva (34,032 posts)
11. I think our party should be honest with the people
and tell us to start preparing as best we can
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Response to GGoss (Original post)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 12:16 PM
Tarc (10,345 posts)
14. Commondreams is a Jackpine Radicals outpost
Nothing new or illuminating.
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Response to Tarc (Reply #14)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 12:23 PM
GGoss (1,273 posts)
16. Yeah... Ya Just Can't Trust A Site That Would Feature Authors Like These, Right ???
Common Dreams has featured original articles by the following authors: Eric Alterman Noam Chomsky Alexander Cockburn Jeff Cohen Juan Cole Joe Conason David Corn Linh Dinh Robert Fisk Amy Goodman Tom Hayden Bob Herbert Jim Hightower Arianna Huffington Molly Ivins Jesse Jackson Kathy Kelly Naomi Klein Paul Krugman Michael Lerner Michael Moore Ralph Nader Laura Packard Harold Pinter Ted Rall Robert Reich Frank Rich Arundhati Roy Bernie Sanders Robert Scheer Cindy Sheehan[6] Katrina vanden Heuvel Howard Zinn From: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Dreams#:~:text=Common%20Dreams%20NewsCenter%2C%20often%20referred,of%20serving%20the%20progressive%20community. |
Response to GGoss (Reply #16)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 02:21 PM
Just A Box Of Rain (3,913 posts)
17. I don't think that many of the authors on that list help your case. Frankly.
Ralph Nader? For fuck's sake???
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Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #17)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 02:24 PM
GGoss (1,273 posts)
18. You Said "Many", You Named ONE... Please Go On... I'm Here To Learn
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Response to GGoss (Reply #18)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 02:25 PM
Just A Box Of Rain (3,913 posts)
19. I will decline the bait.
Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #19)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 02:28 PM
GGoss (1,273 posts)
20. Smart Move
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Response to GGoss (Reply #20)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 02:29 PM
Just A Box Of Rain (3,913 posts)
22. I'm more than aware.
Response to GGoss (Reply #18)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 02:35 PM
Just A Box Of Rain (3,913 posts)
23. BTW Jill Stein is another Common Dreams contributer.
Response to GGoss (Reply #16)
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 09:56 PM
Tarc (10,345 posts)
28. Lol, Cindy Sheehan? Ralph Nader?
10 pounds of shit in a 5-gallon bag, as gramps used to say.
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Response to Tarc (Reply #14)
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:08 PM
womanofthehills (7,274 posts)
31. Common Dreams has a top rating for being truthful
Response to GGoss (Original post)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 12:21 PM
BannonsLiver (14,890 posts)
15. Boo hoo.
Response to GGoss (Original post)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 02:29 PM
PatSeg (44,912 posts)
21. Does anyone understand why the Biden administration
approved this project? It is pretty inconsistent with most of his agenda so far.
I rarely disagree with Biden, but in this case, I really don't know enough about the situation. |
Response to PatSeg (Reply #21)
Tue Mar 14, 2023, 02:39 PM
Just A Box Of Rain (3,913 posts)
24. As we transition to cleaner energy--which is happening--we can either help fund
Vladamir Putin, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and other oil producing countries with abysmal human rights records, or we can avail ourselves of domestic supplies.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #21)
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:12 PM
womanofthehills (7,274 posts)
32. I feel the same. Why would he ok a project that is super unpopular?
Many mega wind farms are being built. Sun Zia in NM will produce 3500 MW of power.
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Response to GGoss (Original post)
Fri Mar 17, 2023, 10:13 PM
Sogo (4,252 posts)
33. IMO, the segment Chris Hayes did on this topic tonight
will put to rest the concern over this issue in most minds....
Basically what they said was development of alternatives will outpace (due to provisions in the Inflation Reduction Act) the need for fossil fuel drilling and that includes Willow. By the time any drilling takes place there, it will essentially be obsolete and probably not happen. |