Sat Mar 11, 2023, 11:33 PM
turbinetree (24,005 posts)
They Called 911 For Help. Junk Science Labeled Them As Liars.
Prosecutors know it’s junk science. But that hasn’t stopped some from promoting his methods and even deploying 911 call analysis in court to win convictions.
By ProPublica — March 11, 2023 by Brett Murphy ProPublica is a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative newsroom. Sign up for The Big Story newsletter to receive stories like this one in your inbox. Series: Words of Conviction Tracing a Junk Science Through the Justice System Tracy Harpster, a deputy police chief from suburban Dayton, Ohio, was hunting for praise. He had a business to promote: a miracle method to determine when 911 callers are actually guilty of the crimes they are reporting. “I know what a guilty father, mother or boyfriend sounds like,” he once said. Harpster tells police and prosecutors around the country that they can do the same. Such linguistic detection is possible, he claims, if you know how to analyze callers’ speech patterns — their tone of voice, their pauses, their word choice, even their grammar. Stripped of its context, a misplaced word as innocuous as “hi” or “please” or “somebody” can reveal a murderer on the phone. https://crooksandliars.com/2023/03/they-called-911-help-junk-science-decided Long article good read.....I just wonder if Mr. Harpster ever had someone on the line that had a speech impediment......just a thought....
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turbinetree | Mar 11 | OP |
NowISeetheLight | Mar 11 | #1 | |
Disaffected | Mar 12 | #3 | |
NowISeetheLight | Mar 12 | #5 | |
RockRaven | Mar 11 | #2 | |
thucythucy | Mar 12 | #4 | |
Disaffected | Mar 12 | #6 |
Response to turbinetree (Original post)
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 11:38 PM
NowISeetheLight (835 posts)
1. About As Accurate
As a polygraph. I’m amazed there are states where they’re still used. The federal government still uses them too for security clearances and “maintenance”. I’ve had four in my lifetime. Two in the Navy, one before sub school and one for a clearance, then two for police jobs I didn’t get (due to my PTSD). I’ve read a lot about them and they’re basically trash. Just ask Gary Ridgeway, the Green River Killer, or Aldrich Ames, the traitor who sold secrets. Both passed multiple polygraphs and were guilty as sin.
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Response to NowISeetheLight (Reply #1)
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 01:56 AM
Disaffected (3,502 posts)
3. Worse yet,
there are ways of beating the polygraph i.e. pretty much insuring you will be pronounced as being truthful rather than lying.
They do however have one useful purpose - most crooks believe the polygraph works so it can be used to help extract a confession from a guilty subject. |
Response to Disaffected (Reply #3)
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 03:23 PM
NowISeetheLight (835 posts)
5. Mental Rubber Hose
I guess at least it won’t leave a bruise!
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Response to turbinetree (Original post)
Sat Mar 11, 2023, 11:40 PM
RockRaven (12,416 posts)
2. The criminal justice system is chock full of junk/bullshit science. This is the latest sad sick
example. It's such a long-standing and recurrent problem that one must ask if it is inherent to the US criminal justice system.
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Response to RockRaven (Reply #2)
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 11:01 AM
thucythucy (7,335 posts)
4. "Bite mark analysis" seems to be another example
of bogus science, along with "body language" analysis.
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Response to thucythucy (Reply #4)
Sun Mar 12, 2023, 06:48 PM
Disaffected (3,502 posts)
6. Plus
"hair & fibre" analysis and "blood spatter" analysis.
I'm surprised they don't (AFAIK) use craniology anymore. |