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https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/face-masks-robbery-nypd-require-customers-remove-covid-19/This is quite a turnaround. Im shocked to see this as I never thought I would.
Face masks, once an essential Covid-19 protective measure, are now being worn by criminals to conceal their identities, according to New York police who are urging businesses to unmask customers before letting them in stores.
The recommendation is a 180-degree turn from mask-wearing norms at the onset of the pandemic. During peak periods of infection, federal agencies mandated mask-wearing in public places, while many businesses required customers to wear them on the premises.
Now, however, some businesses are banning customers from entering the premises with face masks on, saying the policy change is needed to identify thieves. And after numerous incidents, the New York Police Department is urging business owners to make shoppers remove their face masks and flash their features before being let in.
Scrivener7
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rsdsharp
(10,353 posts)despite 3 hospitalizations, and three other trips to the ER. If I get covid, with my comorbidities, Im dead. If Im out of the house, and out of the car, Im wearing a KN95. Its not a balaclava, or a ski mask, or fucking panty hose. Its a protective mask.
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Polybius
(18,681 posts)Anyone who does that here would be immediately arrested.
mainer
(12,237 posts)If it's just a 10 second reveal, and customers can hold their breath, it will be safe. Like TSA making you drop your mask as you go through security.
JI7
(91,030 posts)You have to take the mask off for a few seconds as you enter so they can get the faces on camera and then they can put it back on.
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EX500rider
(11,643 posts)I don't think so.
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EX500rider
(11,643 posts)You can try but at airports & banks & courts & DMV's etc they will need to see your face.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,862 posts)... leave, find another store.
It has nothing to do with showing my face in public. It's a private store. I can patronize or not.
I agree with you: no explanation is necessary.
I was in a fine jewelry store a few months ago. I got a new battery for my Timex watch. Easy transaction. I put on a mask before I approached the counter.
MayReasonRule
(1,960 posts)ProfessorGAC
(70,994 posts)The whole time CDC recommended masks it was that way.
. The first 6 months or so, it was curbside out back, and even in the car we had to pull the mask back.
They still have curbside but I don't use it anymore.
Since some chemotherapy patients go there, I still see patrons with masks, but they don't make them take it off anymore.
usonian
(15,104 posts)nolabear
(43,322 posts)Lots of the local pot shops had this rule during the height of the pandemic. An employee hung by the door and made certain everyone took off the mask for a sec so the camera could see them.
Minor inconvenience to those who want to mask and major headache to those who want to rob.
maxsolomon
(35,456 posts)nt
nolabear
(43,322 posts)Nittersing
(6,965 posts)yaesu
(8,387 posts)With all the other options available it's a buyers market. Be sure to call the biz to complain and say bye bye.
MuseRider
(34,424 posts)with a gun without anyone knowing your intent but that mask is just one step too far into the danger zone? Ok.......
malaise
(279,491 posts)Shrek
(4,194 posts)It would be very difficult to legally enter a business with a firearm.
AlexSFCA
(6,275 posts)maxsolomon
(35,456 posts)At least they'll know who to exclude.
When shoplifting gangs organized after the BLM protests, they'd walk out of the downtown Target with TVs and out of Nordstrom with designer bags. It pissed off most law-abiding citizens that there were basically no consequences.
I used to see Meth heads shambling out of the downtown Target with cases of beer or 12 packs of toilet paper to sell at 3rd and Pike. I don't see that much now.
sanatanadharma
(4,074 posts)And religious scruples too, as well as covididiot-precedence.
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)They wear them even when outdoors.
It's because they are scared to remove them -- scared to death. Some of these 70, 80, and 90 year olds will die at their next illness whatever it is.
As discussed above, the idea of removing the mask momentarily when entering certain stores for the purpose of being photographed seems reasonable.
liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)worn constantly if indoors or crowded outdoor areas, especially if others are unmasked.
It takes me a while to get the seal just right over my nose and face with my 3M N95 Aura mask. I'm not going to have to do that over and over again and contaminate the mask.
It seems like the NYPD wants to force infect people. They are psychopaths to even suggest such a thing.
Ironically, when a shoplifting event occurs in my town and they put videos up on the news, the robbers are almost never wearing masks. I remember 2 people robbed a liquor store down the street from my house, during the mask mandate, and these two fools weren't even wearing masks.
area51
(12,210 posts)MayReasonRule
(1,960 posts)Renew Deal
(83,242 posts)nuxvomica
(13,064 posts)Even during the height of the pandemic, they had a big sign at the entrance asking customers to lower their masks as soon as they open the front door so a security camera could record their face. Anybody who didn't do that could still enter the store but they were watched more closely.
MayReasonRule
(1,960 posts)Law Enforcement Sycophant's Falling like the apples they are from their tree of injustice.
Got it.
FFS
No mask, no business, lol... No problem dip-shits!.
I vote with my dollars and my feet every minute of each and every day I'm around.
And y'all? Ya' wanna' be ne'er do wells???
Y'all can fuck right off...
OR
If you prefer, I'll put it in the local vernacular of my area, strictly for these obvious progenies of lead paint chips within NYC...
Tickle
(3,236 posts)people in Banks who are wearing masks? Good grief who makes these rules