Watching Local News about MSU shooting-- and SUSPECT confirmed DEAD!

[DemocraticPatriot]

Last edited Tue Feb 14, 2023, 03:22 AM - Edit history (3)

Yes, 3 are announced dead as well as 5 more in the hospital with "life-threatening injuries"...
(Yeah, anytime you are SHOT it is a life threatening injury, IMHO)

I was never a student at MSU, but I have spent much time there... When I was college-age, I went there to participate in many political activities--- and yes, I went out there to party! Had a student girlfriend there for a while, who took me down into the basement of one of the residence halls, where they were supposed to "take shelter" in case of nuclear war (that was in the early 80's)... That sort of traffic has never stopped, and many non-students are often present on-campus and off, coming from outside East Lansing. Later in life I was a taxi driver, ferrying drunk students and non-students home when the bars closed, especially on Friday and Saturday nights-- they were the major source of my income. That is why am well aware of all the non-student traffic going in and out of MSU and East Lansing..

Presently, the MSU campus has been flooded with police for nearly 4 hours, but no suspect has been apprehended. They have released camera footage of the suspect, still photos thus far, which identify him as a "short" (so they say), but clearly African-American individual wearing a jean coat, red-orange shoes and a ballcap and mask. His face is totally obscured, in the photos I have seen. The only way he could be possibly identified in the photos I have seen, is from the clothing that he was wearing.

I have absolutely nothing to back this up-- other than intuition and personal experience with the area:

My best guess is, that this suspect is a non-student, who had connections with students on-campus... The first assault occurring in a classroom building may undermine that assumption, but I am loathe to believe that an AA student at the university has committed this crime. I could be wrong, but I do know that many AA's from outside the university make their way back and forth to MSU/East Lansing, and they are much more likely to be armed.... (One night when cleaning out my taxi, I found one or two shotgun shells spilled on the floor in back-- disturbing? lol)

In four hours, more than a hundred police have not been able to apprehend any suspect, as reported. I suspect the suspect had a vehicle parked somewhere, and he made his way to it on foot, and got the hell out of the area-- unless he had a residence somewhere nearby, and is himself "sheltering in place"....


JUST IN THIS MINUTE:
The suspect may have been caught at Larch St. and Lake Lansing (in Lansing, about 5 miles away from the scene of the crime)--

and "may" have killed himself...


I hope it is accurate.

stupid newspeople "that is a long way away from the scene of the crime, if true, how did he get there??"

Obviously it is only a 10-15 minute drive, if you have a car....

(too close to my neighborhood now, he was headed in my direction... )


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SO--- that is less than half a mile from my house, where the suspect purportedly killed himself.... an intersection I often visit-- to shop at the 'Quality Dairy', a convenience store--- directy across from them is a Dominos Pizza outlet... oddly enough, I sometimes visit it at about that time of night (shiver)

too damn close for comfort, right ???

Seems I was correct about the suspect getting the hell out of East Lansing after committing the crimes....
Whether it was a 'non-student' remains to be seen, but the direction of his flight would seem to back up my intuitive asserion... We shall see.

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UPDATE:
Just about 2 a.m., local law enforcement (MSU/East Lansing) announced that the deceased shooting suspect
"had absolutely NO official connection to the MSU community"-- not a student nor employee.

So it seems my intuition was correct.
I don't claim to be any kind of genius, but this IS my neighborhood...

It is very sad that the blood has come to my community, and the MSU community...
My sympathy goes out to those familes who are experiencing loss or injuries among family members.

I hope that there are no more deaths...

[spooky3]

1. MSNBC showing live police update: shooter is dead nt

[DemocraticPatriot]

2. UPDATE: "THE SUSPECT HAS BEEN LOCATED, and has died,

from what is suspected to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound"

from the East Lansing police, this moment...


"There is no longer a need to shelter in place..."

[DemocraticPatriot]

3. I have long thought we have been "lucky"---

as all these mass shootings have occurred across the country,

that we never had one occurring locally--

until now.

[multigraincracker]

4. Photo was of him going out the

North door of union. Steps away from Grand River Ave and E. Lansing business district. If parked there, it’d be a quick drive to where he was found.

[DemocraticPatriot]

5. I don't even know of any 'north door' out of the Union Building...

the main door faces west, which you can drive up to.....

I spent much time in that building in my youth, mostly for 'political meetings'-- and later in life, I picked up many taxi fares there, from that west door...



there 'might' be a 'north door', but perhaps you could not drive up to it...

[multigraincracker]

6. You are correct.

That West door is at the North end of the union. I also spent lots of time there in my youth back in the 60s. My memory is not as sharp as it use to be. Had to think about it. In fact the photo looked more like the East door, right across from the West door.
Years ago I lived in Ypsilanti. Went back there a few weeks ago and got lost.

[DemocraticPatriot]

7. Yes, the main door faces west onto the last south part of 'Abbott Road', right?

Quite possibly there might be some door facing north,
but it can only be considered to be a "back door"...

If that was the door the suspect was photographed using,
it certainly was some sort of 'back door'...

[DemocraticPatriot]

10. The only photo I saw of him was coming in somewhere, and going up some stairs...

Guess I should revisit the Union, and find this alleged 'north door'. I never knew of any back when I frequented the place, but that was about 40 years ago, and there has been much remodeling over much of the campus...

I no longer think he had any vehicle. I think he just took off walking towards home somewhere in north Lansing, after the shooting in the Union. It was at least 3 hours before any photos were publicized, so law enforcement had no idea who they were looking for-- while everyone walked swiftly for shelter or away from the scene... Walking away from East Lansing, one could easily arrive at the location in north Lansing where he was accosted by police, after three hours...

That was too damn close to my own home, as reported-- about 1/4 mile at the most...
This guy was a 'neighbor' of mine, so to speak...

[DemocraticPatriot]

8. so we won't hear anything more, until tomorrow....

but the police just announced that the deceased suspect "had absolutely no official connection to the MSU community"...


I suspect the crime had nothing to do with politics,
more likely caused by a 'lost love' or possibly connected to bad drug deals...

or maybe the guy couldn't get into college there. who knows.

very sad no matter what.

[spinbaby]

9. Sigh

I woke up this morning to the news of another mass shooting and I wasn’t even surprised—just the normal daily shooting update.