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(52,126 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:05 AM Nov 2012

honestly i think this may have been the most racist campaign ever.

well, i can't really speak about the pre-/post civil war era, but at least in the last 50 years and perhaps as far back as around 1890 or so.

just about everything the rmoney campaign did seemed to be designed to make people vote on the basis of bigotry.

republicans have long included dog whistles in their campaigns, but it reached a fever pitch in this election.

i think it's fair to lump in his dearth of policy specifics. challengers who want a mandate to change from the status quo invariably propose specifics to motivate their troops and build the argument against the "default" action, which is staying the course. reagan famously did this against carter and reagan's their idol. i think a large part of rmoney's lack of specifics was designed to leave no basis on which to vote other than bigotry.

you might say that, no, surely he was just trying to capitalize on the discontent with the economy, but no, if that were the case he would say exactly what he would do differently. and he really didn't. he danced around that area as politicians do, but he neither listed clear-cut specifics nor did he distill his program into a few simple points that he highlighted prominently during the campaign.

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honestly i think this may have been the most racist campaign ever. (Original Post) unblock Nov 2012 OP
It wasn't. Reagan ran far more blatantly racist campaigns. cali Nov 2012 #1
Yep, Reagan ran a racist campaign, too. ywcachieve Nov 2012 #3
Romney is a white supremacist. ywcachieve Nov 2012 #2
Oh for fuck's sake. Queen Ann said it was "our turn". Yeah, supremacist fits. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #5
You are on to him, too. ywcachieve Nov 2012 #9
His church was officially white supremacist until '78, after all. Lucy Goosey Nov 2012 #19
I can't argue with this, he MIGHT have not liked the optics but the base reasoning of racist... uponit7771 Nov 2012 #21
Ya think? HopeHoops Nov 2012 #4
IMO it's the makers vs. takers theme treestar Nov 2012 #6
+1 JoeyT Nov 2012 #7
George Bush and Republicans don't like.... L0oniX Nov 2012 #28
Typical example treestar Nov 2012 #31
Hardly WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #8
i agree that it's been an element of probably ALL previous campaigns at least since nixon unblock Nov 2012 #10
That was in a culture were it was accepted, you're indicating NOTHING has changed since then uponit7771 Nov 2012 #22
It sure got people to show their real feelings stuntcat Nov 2012 #11
As Jon Stewart mentioned, the reaction to the loss is also TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #12
plus the whole idea that re-electing obama would be some disaster of epic proportions unblock Nov 2012 #14
maybe yashoo Nov 2012 #13
ridiculous. cali Nov 2012 #15
+1 onenote Nov 2012 #25
Hi yashoo....WELCOME to DU.. Tikki Nov 2012 #16
Ever? No...In recent memory? Yeah... Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #17
Don't forget the sexism too! Initech Nov 2012 #18
The Dirty Seven... L0oniX Nov 2012 #24
I love it!!! Glad all those douchebags lost. Initech Nov 2012 #30
AMEN!! It's been the most IMMORAL plea for a vote I've EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE uponit7771 Nov 2012 #20
Imagine what the results would have been without the racists votes. L0oniX Nov 2012 #23
I don't think it was the most racist... one_voice Nov 2012 #26
will never forget that birther/race hate they spewed..to hell with that party Sunlei Nov 2012 #27
I agree...in a long time. The blowback, however, was priceless and deadly. A Sleeping Giant libdem4life Nov 2012 #29
 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
5. Oh for fuck's sake. Queen Ann said it was "our turn". Yeah, supremacist fits.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:12 AM
Nov 2012

rMoney hates non-whites and you can see it in his eyes. He acted like he was the supreme leader in all three debates. He can just crawl back into his magic underwear and soak in his own hate. But beware. Tagg (why do Republicans give their kids such stupid names?) rMoney is even more full of hate and he's on the horizon. Same cloth, different first name.



ywcachieve

(365 posts)
9. You are on to him, too.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:57 AM
Nov 2012

''rMoney hates non-whites and you can see it in his eyes. He acted like he was the supreme leader in all three debates.''

I noticed the same thing about is debate demeanor.

Lucy Goosey

(2,940 posts)
19. His church was officially white supremacist until '78, after all.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:28 PM
Nov 2012

He grew up in an overtly racist religion.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
21. I can't argue with this, he MIGHT have not liked the optics but the base reasoning of racist...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:31 PM
Nov 2012

...is prolly what he was at home with.

I can't believe how racist that bastard was....and a punk racist too....the worst kind

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. IMO it's the makers vs. takers theme
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:16 AM
Nov 2012

That Republicans always assert. When you talk to racist whites, they are not against a social safety net for themselves and other white people. It's a dog whistle for "AAs are taking your money and not working, by choice" attitude - which is why they emphasize the very few frauds out there (not the white ones that surely exist too) - and flog the claim of generations staying on welfare.

They are racist all the time, including Democratic white candidates, so our having a black candidate is simply icing on their racist cake. This is why some racists make the absurd claims like Obama does not like white people, is president only of the AA people and other ridiculous assertions.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
7. +1
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:52 AM
Nov 2012

You see a lot of this shit in the South. You remind someone that's yelling about Obama and welfare society that three fourths of their family are on public assistance and watch them immediately shift to "But that's diiiiiiiifferent!". Then they get a sad when you call them a racist.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
31. Typical example
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:17 PM
Nov 2012

The white people are looking for food - the black people doing the same thing are looting.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
8. Hardly
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:54 AM
Nov 2012

Willie Horton.

Nixon's "Southern Strategy."

George Wallace.

Strom Thurmond.

This was bad - the worst its been in years - but hardly the worst of all time.

unblock

(52,126 posts)
10. i agree that it's been an element of probably ALL previous campaigns at least since nixon
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:12 AM
Nov 2012

and probably further back as well, though perhaps it was the democrats who were more guilty prior to the 60s.

but it seems that racism was merely an added "feature", an appeal to just one "special interest" (the bigot vote) in prior elections.

this one really seemed like racism was a core principle, a central tenet of the campaign.

i'll grant you wallace and thurmond, but i really think of them as lesser candidates, not major party candidates who really had a decent chance of winning. i guess i should have said "major campaign" to avoid including people like david duke as well.

nixon's southern strategy would indeed qualify. i was just a wee lad at the time so i can't really compare the racism level, but i can imagine it would have been on a par with the rmoney campaign. seems to me, though, nixon had issues and a real track record as well, though. rmoney really seemed to run from everything except racism.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
22. That was in a culture were it was accepted, you're indicating NOTHING has changed since then
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:32 PM
Nov 2012

...and I don't agree with that

stuntcat

(12,022 posts)
11. It sure got people to show their real feelings
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:59 PM
Nov 2012

It brought the 18th century asshole out of some 21st century leftover troglodytes.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
12. As Jon Stewart mentioned, the reaction to the loss is also
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:04 PM
Nov 2012

pretty racist--the whole "people want stuff, so they voted Obama" argument. Just more welfare queen fantasy bullshit.

unblock

(52,126 posts)
14. plus the whole idea that re-electing obama would be some disaster of epic proportions
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:08 PM
Nov 2012

come on. one can understand that kind of argument for a NEW president, there's always a bit of unknown involved.
but **RE**-electing someone? especially when congress is divided?

granted shrub's second term was a disaster, but a lot of that was baked in the cake from the first term.

Tikki

(14,549 posts)
16. Hi yashoo....WELCOME to DU..
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:15 PM
Nov 2012


We have a framed picture of our President Obama in our display case.
When people first walk into our home they will see it. Their first
reactions either vocal or not are always interesting and telling of a
person.


The Tikkis

Initech

(100,043 posts)
18. Don't forget the sexism too!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:27 PM
Nov 2012

We saw a lot of that this year with absolute creeps like Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock running - and Rmoney actually endorsed one of them!!!

Initech

(100,043 posts)
30. I love it!!! Glad all those douchebags lost.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:51 PM
Nov 2012

Even Jesus is like "What the fuck is wrong with these clowns?"

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
26. I don't think it was the most racist...
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:36 PM
Nov 2012

Reagan, Nixon, Strom Thrumond, Lee Atwater all come to mind. BUT, it was far too racist for 2012. That being said, I think the reaction to the loss was more racist than anything I've seen in a long time. Bill O'Reilly's comments were beyond the pale. but they were just one example.

Oh, and the attempts to suppress the minority vote was shameful. I was embarrassed, angry, and sad all at the same time.

We went into other countries and shed our blood to give them the right to vote to democracy and here we were doing our best to keep people from voting. Business owners threatening workers, third world shit. We are hypocrites and the world watched.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
27. will never forget that birther/race hate they spewed..to hell with that party
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:37 PM
Nov 2012

To hell with the ones still in political positions, they never spoke-up against their own parties race hate emails, birther crap and crap like muslim/gay hate.

People like Boehner, Bachmann they should be kicked out of washintondc. They are horrid for America.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
29. I agree...in a long time. The blowback, however, was priceless and deadly. A Sleeping Giant
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:50 PM
Nov 2012

has been growing up and is beginning to flex its political muscles. White women are ebbing from lockstep establishment voters to identifying as a minority (with separate rights), along with the racial and other identified minorities. Adding the overall gender minority vote and LGBT to the list, is significant. Love the concept that The Minorities Together are becoming The Majority.

Just to watch Rove, The Newly Flummoxed, was worth the price of admission !!!!

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