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NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:06 PM Feb 2023

Florida May Force High School Athletes To Disclose Their Menstrual History

From: https://globeecho.com/news/north-america/united-states/florida-may-force-high-school-athletes-to-disclose-their-menstrual-history/

(which scraped the story from Time, which is behind a paywall/registrationwall)

But also note the mention of Roe v Wade; this same policy, where mandatory, also attacks student athletes ability to have an abortion if needed.

Not to mention it's as creepy now as when Trump's very anti-abortion Scott Lloyd (Office of Refugee Resettlement) forced the policy on migrants held in camps.

"Critics have noted that this policy would be a major challenge for transgender athletes who may have to out themselves with their responses to the questions. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis approved a bill last year—which is currently under legal fire—that bans transgender female students from playing on women and girls’ sports teams.

In Palm Beach County, the school administration began re-examining the questions last year after parents expressed backlash that the questionnaire would be available to complete online and that the responses would be stored digitally via a third-party-software. The software company, Aktivate, is vulnerable to court subpoenas, which many parents worry could be a problem in post-Roe Florida, where abortion is severely restricted now and such medical records need stronger protection than ever.


"Texas school districts also ask female-athletes very similar questions about their menstrual history. In several school districts—including in Austin, Dallas, Houston and Fort Worth—the questions are mandatory to complete, according to The Dallas Morning News. Many other states require student athletes to undergo a physical examination from a healthcare provider, but they generally only ask the provider to share a signature affirming that the athlete is in good health, rather than turn personal health history over to the school."[

"The FHSAA Board of Directors is set to decide whether the menstrual history questions should remain optional or become mandatory at the upcoming board meeting this month from February 26 – 27 in Gainesville."
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Florida May Force High School Athletes To Disclose Their Menstrual History (Original Post) NullTuples Feb 2023 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2023 #1
+1000000. Florida0 is likely a Red Shithole for multiple decades to come. Celerity Feb 2023 #16
Where are the parents' outrage? Where are the damn lawyers? Deuxcents Feb 2023 #2
They are loving it! budkin Feb 2023 #15
Who retains the menstruation history form? sl8 Feb 2023 #3
Apparently, the committee said that *all* pages of the form should be turned in to the school. sl8 Feb 2023 #34
What mother will comply with this law? onecaliberal Feb 2023 #4
The Male High School Atheletes Will Certainly Be Confused GGoss Feb 2023 #5
They are no longer allowed to say: ... JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2023 #24
All the male athletes should flood the system with their reports. Make the whole system even more FSogol Feb 2023 #25
This seems more like an underhanded way of eliminating girls' sports in public schools. GoCubsGo Feb 2023 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Dum Aloo Feb 2023 #7
Works for me! Falls under "Ask stupid questions get stupid answers" nt Phoenix61 Feb 2023 #12
Do those people in that state... 2naSalit Feb 2023 #8
Is this a Civil Rights Law violation? Sure seems like it due to the specific gender rules/treatment. LonePirate Feb 2023 #9
WTAF?! How does this not violate medical privacy?! sakabatou Feb 2023 #10
Looks like a HIPAA violation to me. wnylib Feb 2023 #28
Except HIPAA applies to hospitals; the athletes would be "volunteering" it. NullTuples Feb 2023 #36
HIPAA applies to more than hospitals. wnylib Feb 2023 #39
Sick and disgusting. lpbk2713 Feb 2023 #11
Creepy fuckers purr-rat beauty Feb 2023 #13
What the actual fuck???? This is some straight Nazi shit! Initech Feb 2023 #14
Welcome to Gilead, girls Hekate Feb 2023 #17
WTAF???? When I was a senior in high school, one of my classmates asked niyad Feb 2023 #18
What was once Christian schools is now Christian states... NullTuples Feb 2023 #37
We are done with the "Republicans want small government" talk, right? ZonkerHarris Feb 2023 #19
It is time to leave Florida to fester in its own rot. It's not fit for decent people. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2023 #20
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is a hate filled comment! lark Feb 2023 #23
No, it is not. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2023 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Gaugamela Feb 2023 #21
Fucking horrible! lark Feb 2023 #22
Would you have even answered? Serious question Arazi Feb 2023 #30
I don't get your question? lark Feb 2023 #32
I *think* they're asking if you would've answered the questions required? NullTuples Feb 2023 #38
Would you answer this question Arazi Feb 2023 #41
So the constitutional right to privacy in the state constitution means absolutely nothing In It to Win It Feb 2023 #27
Isn't this a HIPAA violation? wnylib Feb 2023 #29
Girls who participate in gymnastics typically don't get their periods until really late. lark Feb 2023 #33
So it should be easy for a lawyer to wnylib Feb 2023 #35
Why should a parent be forced to do that - it's crazy! lark Feb 2023 #42
I propose filling out and dropping off a "I did NOT menstruate today" form and dropping it off ck4829 Feb 2023 #31
As an addendum to post 31's idea, assuming this obscenity is allowed to stand, I niyad Feb 2023 #40

Response to NullTuples (Original post)

Celerity

(43,108 posts)
16. +1000000. Florida0 is likely a Red Shithole for multiple decades to come.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 12:30 AM
Feb 2023


Million of retiring christofash white power northern MAGAts have, are, and will be flowing into its literal fever swamps.

Cubans only make up 27 or 28% of the Latinos in Florida now, so you cannot just blame them alone (like so many incorrectly do on DU) for the fact the entire group (Spanish speakers and Brasilan Portuguese speakers combined) voted in pretty large majorities for DeathSentence and the Rethugs. So many of the Central American and South American wealthy or at least middle class bourgeoisie have moved in Floriduh, and they ofttimes (as so many were RW POS back in the origin country, or their parents or grandparents were) buy into the 'The Dems are all commies' shit just like the Cubanos do. The same for their love for anti LGBTQ movements and their misogynistic pushes as well.

Decay is the word of the day for the new Floriduh miasma that has been unleashed and set loose via osmosis upon the US now, infecting and inflaming like a recurring case of herpes, caught in a dingy Midwest motel back in 1978 and now imported, in old age, into the land of Florida Man.

sl8

(13,677 posts)
3. Who retains the menstruation history form?
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:12 PM
Feb 2023

Skimming over the form, it looks like that portion is retained by the parents or their healthcare provider, but I might be overlooking something.

sl8

(13,677 posts)
34. Apparently, the committee said that *all* pages of the form should be turned in to the school.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 02:05 PM
Feb 2023
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/education/2023/01/20/fhsaa-panel-calls-special-meeting-on-athlete-menstrual-questions/69825933007/


[...]

Just two days after recommending that Florida require high school athletes be required to report their menstrual history and to turn it over to their schools, a panel on sports medicine has called a special meeting to reconsider.

The Florida High School Athletics Association's sports medicine advisory committee Tuesday voted to recommend that the organization's board adopt a national sports registration form that makes mandatory questions for female athletes about when they got their first period, how many weeks they typically go between periods and the date of their most recent menstrual period.

The committee went further to say that all pages of the form, including athletes' medical and reproductive history, should be turned over to their school in order to play.

That contrasts with guidance on the national form that they were aiming to adopt, which says an athlete should turn in only their physician's signed clearance. It also differs from the state's current form, which marks the questions about menstruation as "optional."

[...]

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,321 posts)
24. They are no longer allowed to say: ...
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 10:47 AM
Feb 2023

... watch out, coach is on the rag today.

And it has applied, no matter coach's gender.

FSogol

(45,448 posts)
25. All the male athletes should flood the system with their reports. Make the whole system even more
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 10:50 AM
Feb 2023

of a bad idea.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
6. This seems more like an underhanded way of eliminating girls' sports in public schools.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:24 PM
Feb 2023

What better way of getting around Title IX than mandating invasion of their privacy? It's easier to whack girls' sports from the budget when nobody wants to participate in them because of this kind of bullshit.

Response to NullTuples (Original post)

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
36. Except HIPAA applies to hospitals; the athletes would be "volunteering" it.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 05:45 PM
Feb 2023

I would hope a good lawyer could argue it was under coercion though?

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
39. HIPAA applies to more than hospitals.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 05:48 PM
Feb 2023

It also applies to staff in a doctor's office, the doctor, and to pharmacies as well as to hospitals.

.

lpbk2713

(42,738 posts)
11. Sick and disgusting.
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:40 PM
Feb 2023


The FHSAA Board of Directors should be ashamed for even considering discussing it.

purr-rat beauty

(543 posts)
13. Creepy fuckers
Wed Feb 1, 2023, 11:53 PM
Feb 2023

Is this Freedumb?

who the fuck comes up with this shit and hope the lawsuits start coming if any child is "tracked" in such a violating way.

Initech

(100,040 posts)
14. What the actual fuck???? This is some straight Nazi shit!
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 12:04 AM
Feb 2023

Fuck the GOP, the Christian right, and Fox News!

niyad

(113,074 posts)
18. WTAF???? When I was a senior in high school, one of my classmates asked
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 12:32 AM
Feb 2023

if I would help her fill out some of her college admission paperwork. I said "of course", and she handed them to me to look over. I nearly blew a gasket. There was an entire section in the health section demanding her complete menstrual history, and more personal and invasive questions. I put the papers down and said, "Are you out of your mind?? These questions are absolutely none of their business, and beyond creepy. Totally perverted. This has nothing to do with education.". It was some small xian college in the middle of nowhere that her parents wanted her to attend. I told her to talk to our guidance counselor, who was at least semi-sane and competent, to see what options she had.

I never did find out what she decided, but at least I tried. This was back in the '60's. One would think we had evolved. Clearly, we are moving backwards at a stunning pace.

lark

(23,065 posts)
23. Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is a hate filled comment!
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 10:45 AM
Feb 2023

What if I said that about you? Horrid!!

Yes, FL's governor and the ptb are awful, the fascist billionaires are in control. However there are many millions of us that aren't magats and that happened to be born here and hate how our beautiful state has changed.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,255 posts)
26. No, it is not.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 11:37 AM
Feb 2023

"What if I said that about you? Horrid!! "
Yes it would be, however, I didn't say that about you or the millions in Florida who are not MAGAts or fascists.

I said it's time to leave the state because the fascists are making it unfit for decent people.

So far, not even courts have been effective in slowing the march of the governor and legislature. When you have all three branches supporting authoritarians and the voters don't toss them out, you're headed for accelerated repression.

I advise young people in my part of my state the same way: Go somewhere else for a better life.

Response to NullTuples (Original post)

lark

(23,065 posts)
22. Fucking horrible!
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 10:42 AM
Feb 2023

So glad this wasn't in effect earlier, it could have impacted my daughter very negatively. She is super athletic and was always on school sports teams, but she didn't get her period until she was older than most. Would this have caused her issues in the fascist state that fl is becoming = maybe?? So, really glad she didn't have to choose between honoring her natural high activity level needs and telling the truth about her physical being.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
38. I *think* they're asking if you would've answered the questions required?
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 05:48 PM
Feb 2023

Or more open-ended:

"How would you have handled this if it was in effect when your daughter was in school?"

wnylib

(21,341 posts)
29. Isn't this a HIPAA violation?
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 11:54 AM
Feb 2023

HIPAA is federal which takes precedence over state.

Aside from that, the information is totally useless. Menstrual periods can be irregular for a variety of reasons, especially among teens and athletes, e.g. stress and body changes while the reproductive system and its hormone delivery mature.

lark

(23,065 posts)
33. Girls who participate in gymnastics typically don't get their periods until really late.
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 01:35 PM
Feb 2023

FL thinks HIPPA only applies when Dems give info on Repugs, otherwise we have no privacy rights according to the legislature and even more asshole governor.

lark

(23,065 posts)
42. Why should a parent be forced to do that - it's crazy!
Fri Feb 3, 2023, 08:56 AM
Feb 2023

Not saying it's insurmountable in all cases, but still so mean and unnecessary and such a violation of privacy!

ck4829

(35,038 posts)
31. I propose filling out and dropping off a "I did NOT menstruate today" form and dropping it off
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 12:05 PM
Feb 2023

at the school office every day someone did not menstruate.

niyad

(113,074 posts)
40. As an addendum to post 31's idea, assuming this obscenity is allowed to stand, I
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 06:26 PM
Feb 2023

suggest that every menstruating person drop their used tampons, pads, whatever, on the principals' or coaches' desks. Or maybe fake blood, or chicken blood, chicken liver blood, anything along those lines.

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