Mon Jan 30, 2023, 05:40 PM

Sincere question for the women of DU

Do you feel women's lives are valued in this country? I am feeling like not so much. Sexism is alive and well. The most recent example for me is the reaction to Nancy Pelosi and the attack on her husband, along with the most recent video that came out. It was barely mentioned on my local media which is in Pelosi's district. If any male in government had this happen to them, I feel that it would be nonstop coverage and something would be done.

Also today, a man who tortures his female victims has been running loose in Oregon after being convicted of assaults against two other female victims in Nevada. Served a couple of years in jail and was released to do it again. Now he's on the run and recruiting females from dating aps. Not to mention the almost constant stream of females being murdered by their SO's. We have become immune, it seems.

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Sincere question for the women of DU (Original post)	senseandsensibility	Jan 2023	OP
I've sensed the uptick in misogynistic talk via right wing paid mouthpieces.	SleeplessinSoCal	Jan 2023	#1
Yes, I agree	senseandsensibility	Jan 2023	#2
"I cherish women" though?	czarjak	Jan 2023	#97
My ass he "cherishes" women.	calimary	Jan 2023	#121
Cawthorn and Hawley, et. al	jcgoldie	Jan 2023	#105
And they won't even acknowledge their backwards thinking is Taliban-like.	SleeplessinSoCal	Jan 2023	#134
Of course they are not.	niyad	Jan 2023	#3
Here you go.	sheshe2	Jan 2023	#14
Thank you!	niyad	Jan 2023	#30
It is a good read, niyad.	sheshe2	Jan 2023	#34
You are most welcome. I was more than a little disheartened reading that. Along	niyad	Jan 2023	#40
Thank you for the article. Sad though it is, it is the truth.	efhmc	Jan 2023	#42
You're welcome.	sheshe2	Jan 2023	#47
What really hurts is that almost half of the women who are RW-buy into the misogyny.	Samrob	Jan 2023	#86
I know.	sheshe2	Jan 2023	#90
+1👏	LiberalLoner	Jan 2023	#112
It's a consequence of the influence of RW extremists in	wnylib	Jan 2023	#4
Exactly.	senseandsensibility	Jan 2023	#6
RW extremists sre definitely the problem.	ShazzieB	Jan 2023	#74
And lecturing women to stay home, not work, while she was always working and never home.	betsuni	Jan 2023	#75
Yes!	ShazzieB	Jan 2023	#76
I challenged her on that hypocrisy. Also asked if the males and females in her	niyad	Jan 2023	#82
I remember Schlafly. She also advised women	wnylib	Jan 2023	#77
To be fair, that was actually marabel morgan, another reichwing shill. There was	niyad	Jan 2023	#104
I looked it up because I was pretty sure	wnylib	Jan 2023	#116
That bs about alimony was one of the lying scare tactics they used to frighten	niyad	Jan 2023	#117
My second husband was also once a B. Dalton manager.	wnylib	Jan 2023	#122
No.	raccoon	Jan 2023	#5
No, I don't	mcar	Jan 2023	#7
The examples are too many to mention	senseandsensibility	Jan 2023	#8
Exactly	mcar	Jan 2023	#12
The "she was overprepared" one was just...	betsuni	Jan 2023	#25
As Stephanie Miller says	mcar	Jan 2023	#61
Instead, putler, the media, misogyny, forced the most underprepared puppet	niyad	Jan 2023	#107
Just another way for ignorant people to say she was "too intelligent". Some men are clearly	allegorical oracle	Jan 2023	#110
I saw that headline and it made me mad.	yardwork	Jan 2023	#23
It is a bunch of sexist crap	mcar	Jan 2023	#24
No, we aren't even people.	Coventina	Jan 2023	#9
It's like it's understood that you can't mention	senseandsensibility	Jan 2023	#11
"When is society going to start asking WHAT IS WRONG WITH MEN?"	3catwoman3	Jan 2023	#51
Great post.	Scrivener7	Jan 2023	#81
No, the evidence is all around us.	SamKnause	Jan 2023	#10
I have to say	mgardener	Jan 2023	#13
In the 70's there were all these serial killers	senseandsensibility	Jan 2023	#15
Susan Faludi's book Backlash looks at some of the drivers for this.	meadowlander	Jan 2023	#21
Nope. Especially not now.	50 Shades Of Blue	Jan 2023	#16
I believe 60 -70% of the country values or at least respects women as citizens with equal rights.	haele	Jan 2023	#17
no	nini	Jan 2023	#18
It depends	NewEnglandAutumn	Jan 2023	#19
No, I do not.	yardwork	Jan 2023	#20
Systematic sexism is certainly a problem	senseandsensibility	Jan 2023	#22
Last night I pondered this question on my own.	BigmanPigman	Jan 2023	#26
I think one of the organizing principles of patriarchies is...	GopherGal	Jan 2023	#53
Well said!	BigmanPigman	Jan 2023	#83
No, not valued at all, in any way.	ananda	Jan 2023	#27
Go back even further - look how Hillary Clinton was treated as a candidate for President in 2016	FakeNoose	Jan 2023	#28
I keep repeating, the cause of the republican media bias	DENVERPOPS	Jan 2023	#54
Not only the right and mainstream media.	betsuni	Jan 2023	#57
Look at how she was treated here in 2008	Kaleva	Jan 2023	#58
I think on balance human lives (& yes women are treated worse than men) are treated poorly in the US	Celerity	Jan 2023	#29
No. It's been on my mind a lot lately	happybird	Jan 2023	#31
Yes, please do.	senseandsensibility	Jan 2023	#45
Sexism certainly isn't as alive and well as it was 60 years ago. I've watched...	LAS14	Jan 2023	#32
I give you Dobbs, and the hundreds of pieces of legislation around the country	niyad	Jan 2023	#84
That's one issue. There were/are LOTS of issues. nt	LAS14	Jan 2023	#98
I did not say that there are not. But that is the biggest and most obvious one	niyad	Jan 2023	#106
I post the daily Stock Market Watch thread. . . .	Tansy_Gold	Jan 2023	#33
Everything Tansy just said!	Scrivener7	Jan 2023	#80
Hear! Hear!	niyad	Jan 2023	#85
You are 100% correct.	sheshe2	Jan 2023	#91
Not by enough people.	barbtries	Jan 2023	#35
My question to you is	LogicFirst	Jan 2023	#36
When have women ever passed a single law to control a man's right to make decisions for	onecaliberal	Jan 2023	#41
I disagree with your comment.	sheshe2	Jan 2023	#44
AMEN!!!	BlueMTexpat	Jan 2023	#103
Hi Blue 🥰	sheshe2	Jan 2023	#115
Wow.	Ms. Toad	Jan 2023	#49
So...let me get this straight...	MontanaMama	Jan 2023	#70
That's just nutty.	Scrivener7	Jan 2023	#79
Explain, please, how the women got that way. who controls education? the	niyad	Jan 2023	#87
We don't deserve respect because some other woman may have been disrespectful of our gender?	herding cats	Jan 2023	#92
Yes, absolutely. Just not by everyone. HALF of "this country" are women,	Hortensis	Jan 2023	#37
Agree.	betsuni	Jan 2023	#69
"Ridiculous" excuses are so typical. This sounds like	Hortensis	Jan 2023	#73
Going backwards.	efhmc	Jan 2023	#38
No.	onecaliberal	Jan 2023	#39
No. -eom	Iris	Jan 2023	#43
...	littlemissmartypants	Jan 2023	#46
Nope.	ancianita	Jan 2023	#48
No. nt	SunSeeker	Jan 2023	#50
No they aren't	DownriverDem	Jan 2023	#52
Valued?! HAH!	Sky Jewels	Jan 2023	#55
Women in America are breeding apparatus and domestic slaves. . .	CousinIT	Jan 2023	#56
Supreme Court	KT2000	Jan 2023	#59
Not to mention	sellitman	Jan 2023	#60
No.	Murphyb849	Jan 2023	#62
You can tell how much we're valued by our comparative paychecks	Warpy	Jan 2023	#63
Women aren't valued as full humans equal to men	Timeflyer	Jan 2023	#64
Women are not valued.	CharleyDog	Jan 2023	#65
Hardly. We might not even be the most highly-valued form of domestic livestock. n/t	TygrBright	Jan 2023	#66
No, I don't	Withywindle	Jan 2023	#67
Weak men have always feared strong women. Now they seem to fear all women.	housecat	Jan 2023	#68
We have become another target in the wave of hate that is sweeping our country.	h2ebits	Jan 2023	#71
This message was self-deleted by its author	Dum Aloo	Jan 2023	#72
Welcome to our DU family.	niyad	Jan 2023	#88
This message was self-deleted by its author	Dum Aloo	Jan 2023	#89
No, women's lives aren't valued. Never have been, really. We made some progress	Scrivener7	Jan 2023	#78
Kick	sheshe2	Jan 2023	#93
The Pelosies may be laying low..... trying to reduce their exposure to nuts now that	applegrove	Jan 2023	#94
This is so very sad.	Hope22	Jan 2023	#119
I think Nancy had plans to retire. Who wants to be Minority Leader.	applegrove	Jan 2023	#123
Agree.	Hope22	Jan 2023	#132
I got distracted above. I know I'm not valued.	herding cats	Jan 2023	#95
The only demographic our nation cares less about than women...	Trueblue Texan	Jan 2023	#96
Well, my answer to that question might break the internet	MissMillie	Jan 2023	#99
they focus on trans-athletes and gender/bathroom issues saying they are protecting women	BlueWaveNeverEnd	Jan 2023	#100
MAGAs think women are only good for making babies and accepting their sperm, otherwise valueless.	lark	Jan 2023	#101
No, I do NOT!	BlueMTexpat	Jan 2023	#102
Nope. Not even a little. Look how popular media talks about female celebrities.	Oneironaut	Jan 2023	#108
To answer the question	mnhtnbb	Jan 2023	#109
Men (and some women) feel compelled to set hemlines for women at	Ilsa	Jan 2023	#111
Definitely going backwards in this country.	hamsterjill	Jan 2023	#113
It seems the consensus here is that there is definitely misogyny in this country	Wednesdays	Jan 2023	#114
National walk out.......n/t	Hope22	Jan 2023	#120
No. I fight the fight in my own home.	Hope22	Jan 2023	#118
NO THE USA IS NOT A FRIENDLY PLACE FOR WOMEN	McKim	Jan 2023	#124
No, our lives aren't valued	Bettie	Jan 2023	#125
Yes and there has been on going attack on	YoshidaYui	Jan 2023	#126
I do not	Jilly_in_VA	Jan 2023	#127
K & R..	Permanut	Jan 2023	#128
Here's to your sister!	senseandsensibility	Jan 2023	#130
No	Native	Jan 2023	#129
So you're saying if it was a famous man whose female wife	Laura PourMeADrink	Jan 2023	#131
No our lives are not	Tree Lady	Jan 2023	#133
Yes - In SOME Places, Among Some People. OTOH: NO In Too Many Places & w Too Many People!	electric_blue68	Jan 2023	#135

Response to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Mon Jan 30, 2023, 05:45 PM

SleeplessinSoCal (7,991 posts)

1. I've sensed the uptick in misogynistic talk via right wing paid mouthpieces.

Limbaugh was notoriously misogynistic. And he gave license to a lot of pea-brained a-holes to flaunt their misogyny. Add major misogynist Musk and we have definitely sunk to new lows for the 21st century.

Sincere question for the women of DU

1. I've sensed the uptick in misogynistic talk via right wing paid mouthpieces.

2. Yes, I agree

97. "I cherish women" though?

121. My ass he "cherishes" women.

105. Cawthorn and Hawley, et. al

134. And they won't even acknowledge their backwards thinking is Taliban-like.

3. Of course they are not.

14. Here you go.

30. Thank you!

34. It is a good read, niyad.

40. You are most welcome. I was more than a little disheartened reading that. Along

42. Thank you for the article. Sad though it is, it is the truth.

47. You're welcome.

86. What really hurts is that almost half of the women who are RW-buy into the misogyny.

90. I know.

112. +1👏

4. It's a consequence of the influence of RW extremists in

6. Exactly.

74. RW extremists sre definitely the problem.

75. And lecturing women to stay home, not work, while she was always working and never home.

76. Yes!

82. I challenged her on that hypocrisy. Also asked if the males and females in her

77. I remember Schlafly. She also advised women

104. To be fair, that was actually marabel morgan, another reichwing shill. There was

116. I looked it up because I was pretty sure

117. That bs about alimony was one of the lying scare tactics they used to frighten

122. My second husband was also once a B. Dalton manager.

5. No.

7. No, I don't

8. The examples are too many to mention

12. Exactly

25. The "she was overprepared" one was just...

61. As Stephanie Miller says

107. Instead, putler, the media, misogyny, forced the most underprepared puppet

110. Just another way for ignorant people to say she was "too intelligent". Some men are clearly

23. I saw that headline and it made me mad.

24. It is a bunch of sexist crap

9. No, we aren't even people.

11. It's like it's understood that you can't mention

51. "When is society going to start asking WHAT IS WRONG WITH MEN?"

81. Great post.

10. No, the evidence is all around us.

13. I have to say

15. In the 70's there were all these serial killers

21. Susan Faludi's book Backlash looks at some of the drivers for this.

16. Nope. Especially not now.

17. I believe 60 -70% of the country values or at least respects women as citizens with equal rights.

18. no

19. It depends

20. No, I do not.

22. Systematic sexism is certainly a problem

26. Last night I pondered this question on my own.

53. I think one of the organizing principles of patriarchies is...

83. Well said!

27. No, not valued at all, in any way.

28. Go back even further - look how Hillary Clinton was treated as a candidate for President in 2016

54. I keep repeating, the cause of the republican media bias

57. Not only the right and mainstream media.

58. Look at how she was treated here in 2008

29. I think on balance human lives (& yes women are treated worse than men) are treated poorly in the US

31. No. It's been on my mind a lot lately

45. Yes, please do.

32. Sexism certainly isn't as alive and well as it was 60 years ago. I've watched...

84. I give you Dobbs, and the hundreds of pieces of legislation around the country

98. That's one issue. There were/are LOTS of issues. nt

106. I did not say that there are not. But that is the biggest and most obvious one

33. I post the daily Stock Market Watch thread. . . .

80. Everything Tansy just said!

85. Hear! Hear!

91. You are 100% correct.

35. Not by enough people.

36. My question to you is

41. When have women ever passed a single law to control a man's right to make decisions for

44. I disagree with your comment.

103. AMEN!!!

115. Hi Blue 🥰

49. Wow.

70. So...let me get this straight...

79. That's just nutty.