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Sat Jan 21, 2023, 09:51 AM

Yeah, actually, your plastic coffee pod may not be great for the climate

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/21/1150530714/yeah-actually-your-plastic-coffee-pod-may-not-be-great-for-the-planet

Yeah, actually, your plastic coffee pod may not be great for the climate

January 21, 2023 8:01 AM ET
JULIA SIMON

You may have come across news headlines about coffee this week, like this one from the BBC: "Coffee pod carbon footprint better for planet than filtered brew."

The stories are about a short article published earlier this month that says single-use coffee pods may be better for the climate than other forms of coffee preparation.

The coverage by social media and news outlets came as good news to lots of people who have single-use coffee makers, since they've heard for years that the disposable metal and plastic capsules in their machines harm the environment. Columnist Matthew Yglesias tweeted out: "Vindication".

The problem is, the positive take on coffee pods and the climate might not be true.

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Reply Yeah, actually, your plastic coffee pod may not be great for the climate (Original post)
sl8 Jan 21 OP
jimfields33 Jan 21 #1
EYESORE 9001 Jan 21 #7
jimfields33 Jan 21 #13
Hermit-The-Prog Jan 21 #24
jimfields33 Jan 21 #27
Hermit-The-Prog Jan 21 #28
FoxNewsSucks Jan 21 #2
Crepuscular Jan 21 #3
Hugh_Lebowski Jan 21 #9
NickB79 Jan 21 #4
nature-lover Jan 21 #5
marmar Jan 21 #6
Hugh_Lebowski Jan 21 #8
OAITW r.2.0 Jan 21 #10
FakeNoose Jan 21 #30
dweller Jan 21 #11
2naSalit Jan 21 #15
dweller Jan 21 #32
2naSalit Jan 22 #33
dweller Jan 22 #34
2naSalit Jan 22 #35
dweller Jan 22 #36
2naSalit Jan 22 #37
leftstreet Jan 21 #12
Orrex Jan 21 #17
Kaleva Jan 21 #21
TheBlackAdder Jan 21 #14
2naSalit Jan 21 #16
moonscape Jan 21 #23
Orrex Jan 21 #18
VGNonly Jan 21 #19
Sgent Jan 21 #20
hunter Jan 21 #22
Silent3 Jan 21 #25
panader0 Jan 21 #26
Yavin4 Jan 21 #29
PufPuf23 Jan 21 #31

Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 09:58 AM

1. Well until a study can have 100 percent collaboration, the Keurig will survive.

You canít have competing studies. One saying itís perfect and the other says itís not. Becomes a joke like eggs which go back and forth on if they are good for you. Consistency is mandatory!

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 10:09 AM

7. Do you feel the same about climate science? Do you need 100%...

corroboration (not collaboration) on everything? I thought it would percolate down to our collective consciousness that not all studies have equal validity.

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Response to EYESORE 9001 (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 12:23 PM

13. Well just this week we got competing studies on gas stoves and coffee pods.

Still a few hours of the week yet. Wonder whatís next?

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 07:38 PM

24. We have plastic islands in the Pacific.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 08:31 PM

27. Thank god people are cleaning it up.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #27)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 08:40 PM

28. It's quicker to stop making them.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 10:00 AM

2. So the story sponsored by the Keurig Research Department

was BS?????

shocking

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 10:00 AM

3. ...

We use a washable stainless steel pod that you can put fresh ground coffee in, instead of using the plastic disposable pods. Takes about 5 seconds more time to fill the pod and then rinse it but it's much cheaper and eliminates the plastic waste being dumped in the landfill.

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Response to Crepuscular (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 10:17 AM

9. My lady does similar using biodegradable pods

I use my espresso machine to make Americano's myself.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 10:01 AM

4. So don't use plastic pods.

I use Cameron's EcoPods. Biodegradable.

Mmmmm, toasted pecan.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 10:02 AM

5. I use EZ-Cup with biodegradable paper filters for my Keurig. Put them in my compost bin.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 10:07 AM

6. On top of that, pod/k-cup coffee just doesn't taste as good.

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Response to marmar (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 10:15 AM

8. It ain't no French Press coffee, that's for sure! (nt)

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 10:40 AM

10. I use a re-usable pod.

Not only does it address this problem of plastic waste, but you can buy your favorite brand of coffee (beans or ground) and save a lot of money vs. buying the pods.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 09:00 PM

30. +1000 Ding ding

Winner!

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 11:21 AM

11. Yet take a look at the coffee aisle selection

at your grocer Ö itís now front and center taken over by single use coffee pods Ö
I still use whole bean, grind my own and my coffee (when I can find it) has been relegated to a bottom shelf at the far end of the selection available.

I had been buying my coffee at Walmart bc they always offered it at a good savings, until 1 day it was gone from the bottom shelf end of aisle.
When I asked about it was told Ď it wasnít a good sellerí and it was available online at $10 more a bag. 😑
BS they couldnít keep it on the shelf it sold out often. So I go online to look for it and found what appeared to me like coffee bean wars, similar to Dutch tulip bulb escalation Ö
Finally found a bulk supplier at prices similar to Walmart with free shipping even, and stocked up Ö. YOU DONíT FUCK AROUND WITH SOMEONEíS COFFEE !! 🤨

Last week I noticed Walmart has put it back on the shelf, so enough complaints must have registered to bring it back


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Response to dweller (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 01:07 PM

15. I hear you.

I don't shop at Walmart, we don't even have one in the county. But I met my favorite roaster when I lived in little mountain tourist town, he only sells Fair Trade goods, period. So for maybe $.50 more a lbs I was able to get the best, fresh roasted Fair Trade coffee on the planet IMHO. I am finally, since moving away, able to mail order my coffee from that very roaster, I get 5lbs at a time. It's actually cheapest for around here, and lasts me at least five months.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 11:49 PM

32. We had a coffee roaster here

for many years, many years ago. Supplied most local restaurants and was a booming local business. They ended up closing.
Another was in another city I lived in for a few years, and was a larger operation .
But now as Iím back in my old stomping grounds, I donít know of any roasters.
They certainly were the best, and the experience on visiting with the aroma of beans roasting Ö blissful

I have a good friend that traveled on business to the Caribbean and would bring me back a pound of Costa Rican, Guatemalan or wherever he had traveled. Those were my special occasions brews.

But now I feel lucky to find my savings on a regular whole bean commercial that I can depend on.
Funny, itís 11:20pm and Iím relishing the taste of my 1st cup of mud in the morning Ö




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Response to dweller (Reply #32)

Sun Jan 22, 2023, 12:00 AM

33. I do the same...

When I go to bed, I think about the joy of that cup in the morning, makes my day right away and that's a great way to start the day. So thinking about that rather than whatever I'll have to face after coffee time is over makes it easier to get to sleep too.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #33)

Sun Jan 22, 2023, 12:07 AM

34. 😆

I know better than to perk a cup right now, tho I am tempted Ö
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Response to dweller (Reply #34)

Sun Jan 22, 2023, 12:11 AM

35. No!

You have to wait. I am not allowed (by me) to have coffee before 5am. And I get up at 2 or 3 almost every night... can't make coffee till 5.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #35)

Sun Jan 22, 2023, 12:19 AM

36. ☹️

Ok
Thereís always ice cream 😀

Coffee ice cream that is



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Response to dweller (Reply #36)

Sun Jan 22, 2023, 12:28 AM

37. Better idea.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 11:32 AM

12. I drink the coffee. I don't manufacture the pods

The power to regulate and enforce climate compliance on industry is not mine

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 01:32 PM

17. If only there were numerous readily available alternatives

If onlyÖ

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Response to Orrex (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 04:10 PM

21. Cowboy coffee. Boil the grounds in a pot of water

Pour the coffee through a strainer to catch the grounds. Put grounds in garden compost. Left over coffee is poured on top of the compost where it adds moisture

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 12:24 PM

14. Kuerigs are OK. Go next level with a Nespresso Virtuoline. I reuse the metal pods with foil lids.

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The same pods are reused over 40-50 times each. The Nespresso machines add a 1/2-1 inch creama to the top.

The self-adhesive foil lids are 10 cents. The coffee is about the same and it takes less than a minute to clean, load and place the lid on a pod.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 01:10 PM

16. Coffee snob here...

I still, after forty years, use a porcelain cone with brown paper filters. Not a fan of "electric" coffee that is so hot that it melts plastic.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 05:06 PM

23. Higher end brewers use correct

brewing temps, which is not inferior to common pour-over that is often not correct temp. I think given quality beans and proper grind, most would be challenged by a comparative taste test.

I have 2 gooseneck kettles where one can set exact temp. Used them for years so to pour-over the perfect cup/pot. Finally got tired of the process, broke down and got an automatic brewer that brews at correct temp and never going back . My taste buds arenít sophisticated enough to tell that level of difference, even though Ií snobby enough to roast my own.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 01:33 PM

18. Keurig plastic is the only plastic that actively benefits the environment

Other plastics? Ecologically catastrophic! But Keurig plastic is a pure good, obviously.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 03:47 PM

19. I use an old fashioned

all steel percolator.

Sometimes for small batches I use an all glass vessel, very fine steel filter, no paper or plastic at all. It's called CoffeeGator, looks like a piece of lab ware.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 03:58 PM

20. These statements are compatible:

1) It is bad for the environment in general due to single use plastics.
2) It is good for global warming specifically due to lower energy requirements compared to a drip maker.

Many people are focused on CO2 emissions and care less about other environmental issues.

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Response to Sgent (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 04:55 PM

22. The carbon dioxide will destroy the natural world as we know it.

Mass extinctions, huge displacements of human populations, increased disease, the works...

Single use plastics don't seem so scary in comparison.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 08:01 PM

25. To save the planet, I've given up on coffee in all forms entirely

Of course, I never developed any taste whatsoever for the stuff, so this is no great sacrifice on my part.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 08:23 PM

26. I'm old school. I use a Mr Coffee. 10 cups (shared) every morning.

A coffee mug holds more than 1 cup.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 08:49 PM

29. Industrial output and automobiles contribute more to climate change than almost anything else.

Automobiles in particular are perhaps the single biggest contributor to climate change.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Sat Jan 21, 2023, 09:04 PM

31. So behind the times, may be brewing coffee in a low impact manner.

Black coffee addict, aged 70.

December 1973 moved to Berkeley to go to Cal, turned 21 in January 74.

Several blocks away, there was a coffee shop on a corner and people would line up on the sidewalk to have cups filled or take coffee in paper cup. This was the Peets store on Cedar and Walnut; Peets was still owned and operated by Mr. Peet and there was the Berkeley store and another Peets in Menlo Park.

Got into dark roasts like Moca Java, Major Dickenson's Blend, etc. Bought a gold filter and a French press. Before graduating, had amassed a second identical gold filter and two identical French presses. Also bought two plastic cheesy grocery store Melitta cones that had an outlet that fit into the Stanley thermos I used for work. Was so picky about coffee, one set was my travel set and all needed was way to boil water.

Now nearly 50 years later I use the same two gold filters and French presses. The gold filters are held together by duct tape and crazy glue, only use French press when company and, even then, most often drip into a small crockery pitcher bought in Berkeley in the 1970s rather than use a press. Ninety-five percent of the coffee I drink (2 to 4 cups daily) are gold filter into a white crockery mug. Also have two but maybe 15 years old. One has a shadow of a woman and "Read Like a Dickinson" and the other is Oscar Wilde and would to go look to see the verbiage.

Still buy Peets but at Safeway or Costco. Buy ground as too lazy to grind beans. Sometimes accidently buy beans and need to grind. Ooops.

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