Fri Sep 23, 2022, 09:47 PM

pstokely (10,321 posts)

Should masks return in fall and winter to prevent a COVID surge?

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/masks-return-fall-winter-prevent-covid-surge/story?id=90316370

However, experts admitted it will be hard to convince Americans to wear masks again after so many cities and states have done away with mandates.

Los Angeles, San Francisco and Denver remain the three biggest cities in the U.S. where masks are still required on public transit. In most cities, only health care environments still require mask mandates.

Ray said he believes a surge, similar to those caused by the delta and the omicron variants, would be the only thing drum up support of mandates.

"I think that people are really tired of this pandemic and there is, culturally, very little appetite for mandates, for masking," Ray said. "And so, it's a steep climb to tell people unless there's a particular context in which it's important, like a health care setting when there are many vulnerable people."

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Should masks return in fall and winter to prevent a COVID surge? (Original post)	pstokely	Sep 2022	OP
They kind of have returned in stores.	dchill	Sep 2022	#1
Return? Never stopped. No colds, no flu, no Covid.	we can do it	Sep 2022	#2
ditto!	yortsed snacilbuper	Sep 2022	#3
It's really not that hard.	we can do it	Sep 2022	#7
I never stopped either.	sheshe2	Sep 2022	#29
This message was self-deleted by its author	sheshe2	Sep 2022	#30
Yes, they should, but no, they likely won't	SheltieLover	Sep 2022	#4
Same here. I even wear one outdoors if	wnylib	Sep 2022	#49
Didn't stop either. So far so good.	electric_blue68	Sep 2022	#5
This message was self-deleted by its author	electric_blue68	Sep 2022	#6
As a requirement they will not.	David__77	Sep 2022	#8
I never stopped and don't plan on stopping	MiniMe	Sep 2022	#9
Prevention is rarely rewarded. Wars, disease, forest fires, floods, you name it. The majority	tirebiter	Sep 2022	#10
Seldom without mine, so whatever	Hekate	Sep 2022	#11
I was appalled when I went to a doctor this summer and	wnylib	Sep 2022	#51
I do expect my medical folks to wear masks, & they all have the sense to do it. Big sign on the door	Hekate	Sep 2022	#59
Doubtful they'll be mandated, but I still wear mine	Ocelot II	Sep 2022	#12
Americans are such spoiled fucking babies, it's like we are a society founded on sociopathy.	RockRaven	Sep 2022	#13
+	Meowmee	Sep 2022	#26
President Biden said it's over.	jimfields33	Sep 2022	#39
The pandemic phase is over but	Elessar Zappa	Sep 2022	#61
Oh God don't say Covid face masks.	magicarpet	Sep 2022	#14
What blue cities or states have mandates?	former9thward	Sep 2022	#32
No, sorry no specific mask mandates yet this fall or winter.	magicarpet	Sep 2022	#41
I still wear a mask whenever I go out, shopping for example.	FuzzyRabbit	Sep 2022	#15
We've never stopped.	GP6971	Sep 2022	#16
+1	Lucinda	Sep 2022	#20
Where I live	Demobrat	Sep 2022	#17
Mostly I do not see masks	Lithos	Sep 2022	#18
Endemic and pandemic have specific meanings,	Ms. Toad	Sep 2022	#22
I know of the traditional meaning	Lithos	Sep 2022	#25
You don't just get to change the meanings of scientific terms	Ms. Toad	Sep 2022	#37
I am still wearing my mask	LetMyPeopleVote	Sep 2022	#19
It should never have stopped in the first place.	Ms. Toad	Sep 2022	#21
Here's a link to the CDC community transmission map.	keep_left	Sep 2022	#28
It measures a combination of things -	Ms. Toad	Sep 2022	#34
Holy crap the entire country is red!!!	Takket	Sep 2022	#50
Well, maybe not ALL red...	keep_left	Sep 2022	#53
There were mask mandates in plenty of places last year and they didn't stop a surge.	Ace Rothstein	Sep 2022	#23
there was lax enforcement, and would be again	pstokely	Sep 2022	#27
Go back and look at the statistics in any community starting 2 weeks after a mask mandate	Ms. Toad	Sep 2022	#35
With Omicron? I don't believe that was the case.	Ace Rothstein	Sep 2022	#38
Mask mandates, as a general rule, weren't started during omicron.	Ms. Toad	Sep 2022	#40
I've been going out in public a lot more lately.	LuckyCharms	Sep 2022	#24
Still masking everywhere	Meowmee	Sep 2022	#31
We are a Social species	DontBelieveEastisEas	Sep 2022	#33
So we should tell all the doctors and nurses to just stop wearing masks.	Ms. Toad	Sep 2022	#36
given a specific reality, you may be right about statements 2 & 4	DontBelieveEastisEas	Sep 2022	#45
The virus doesn't care. n/t	LuckyCharms	Sep 2022	#42
He's right	Dorian Gray	Sep 2022	#43
Never stopped wearing my mask.	scarletlib	Sep 2022	#44
I was wearing mine until fairly recently, when in grocery stores.	BlackSkimmer	Sep 2022	#46
Yes, I never stopped	EnergizedLib	Sep 2022	#47
No, It is a losing proposition and the courts are not with us on this. Wear a mask yourself,	Demsrule86	Sep 2022	#48
As of yesterday, masks no longer required on mass transit in Los Angeles.	beaglelover	Sep 2022	#52
My doctor told me yesterday that if	Tree Lady	Sep 2022	#54
Readily Available Around Here	ProfessorGAC	Sep 2022	#55
Yes I am thinking its my doctors office	Tree Lady	Sep 2022	#58
I'm sure more people will voluntarily mask, but we're not going to see mandates comes back.	tritsofme	Sep 2022	#56
If hospitals start filling up again, yes--in those affected areas.	Wingus Dingus	Sep 2022	#57
If a new variant evades the vaccines I guess.	maxsolomon	Sep 2022	#60
So... How do you intend to enforce this?	alphafemale	Sep 2022	#62

Response to pstokely (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 09:48 PM

dchill (34,725 posts)

Should masks return in fall and winter to prevent a COVID surge?

1. They kind of have returned in stores.

2. Return? Never stopped. No colds, no flu, no Covid.

3. ditto!

7. It's really not that hard.

29. I never stopped either.

4. Yes, they should, but no, they likely won't

49. Same here. I even wear one outdoors if

5. Didn't stop either. So far so good.

8. As a requirement they will not.

9. I never stopped and don't plan on stopping

10. Prevention is rarely rewarded. Wars, disease, forest fires, floods, you name it. The majority

11. Seldom without mine, so whatever

51. I was appalled when I went to a doctor this summer and

59. I do expect my medical folks to wear masks, & they all have the sense to do it. Big sign on the door

12. Doubtful they'll be mandated, but I still wear mine

13. Americans are such spoiled fucking babies, it's like we are a society founded on sociopathy.

26. +

39. President Biden said it's over.

61. The pandemic phase is over but

14. Oh God don't say Covid face masks.

32. What blue cities or states have mandates?

41. No, sorry no specific mask mandates yet this fall or winter.

15. I still wear a mask whenever I go out, shopping for example.

16. We've never stopped.

20. +1

17. Where I live

18. Mostly I do not see masks

22. Endemic and pandemic have specific meanings,

25. I know of the traditional meaning

37. You don't just get to change the meanings of scientific terms

19. I am still wearing my mask

21. It should never have stopped in the first place.

28. Here's a link to the CDC community transmission map.

34. It measures a combination of things -

50. Holy crap the entire country is red!!!

53. Well, maybe not ALL red...

23. There were mask mandates in plenty of places last year and they didn't stop a surge.

27. there was lax enforcement, and would be again

35. Go back and look at the statistics in any community starting 2 weeks after a mask mandate

38. With Omicron? I don't believe that was the case.

40. Mask mandates, as a general rule, weren't started during omicron.

24. I've been going out in public a lot more lately.

31. Still masking everywhere

33. We are a Social species

36. So we should tell all the doctors and nurses to just stop wearing masks.

45. given a specific reality, you may be right about statements 2 & 4

42. The virus doesn't care. n/t

43. He's right

44. Never stopped wearing my mask.

46. I was wearing mine until fairly recently, when in grocery stores.

47. Yes, I never stopped

48. No, It is a losing proposition and the courts are not with us on this. Wear a mask yourself,

52. As of yesterday, masks no longer required on mass transit in Los Angeles.

54. My doctor told me yesterday that if

55. Readily Available Around Here

58. Yes I am thinking its my doctors office

56. I'm sure more people will voluntarily mask, but we're not going to see mandates comes back.

57. If hospitals start filling up again, yes--in those affected areas.

60. If a new variant evades the vaccines I guess.

62. So... How do you intend to enforce this?