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Thu Sep 22, 2022, 07:38 PM

15 Years From Now, Most Republicans will be Disclaiming Trump

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Trump’s slippery and cunning, but this time I think the chains are really falling. I don’t think he’ll go to prison, but I’d say he’s very likely to be indicted, and on the losing end of multiple court actions.

I’d guess that 15 years from now, or perhaps even less, many or most prominent Republicans will be saying “I never really liked Trump”, “I was always deeply suspicious of the guy,” and “I always had problems with Trump’s ethical flaws.”

We may even get a number of Republicans saying “Trump was never a real conservative!”

They’ll probably support nearly the exact same policies Trump stood for, though.

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Reply 15 Years From Now, Most Republicans will be Disclaiming Trump (Original post)
MatthewG. Sep 22 OP
WarGamer Sep 22 #1
MatthewG. Sep 22 #3
WarGamer Sep 22 #5
Polybius Sep 22 #19
ZZenith Sep 22 #7
dwayneb Sep 22 #13
ZZenith Sep 22 #18
odins folly Sep 22 #2
MatthewG. Sep 22 #4
Emile Sep 22 #6
MatthewG. Sep 22 #8
multigraincracker Sep 22 #17
ultralite001 Sep 22 #9
artemisia1 Sep 22 #10
MatthewG. Sep 22 #11
Polybius Sep 22 #20
demosincebirth Sep 22 #12
Sogo Sep 22 #14
MatthewG. Sep 22 #15
jcgoldie Sep 22 #16
prodigitalson Sep 23 #21

Response to MatthewG. (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 07:42 PM

1. I've said this about 300 times here.

Trump is the face of the movement but he's NOT the movement.

Who started it?

Goldwater? Pat Buchanan?

A little Ron Paul mixed in?

So as soon as Trump is out of the picture, a new figurehead will replace him. Maybe DeSantis? Noem? Cruz, Paul?? Who knows.

The only SURE THING is, it won't be a neocon or a moderate.

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:08 PM

3. Yeah. I think that's right.

I think you’re basically right.

Trump’s a somewhat unique political figure in the sense that he inspired a genuine personality cult among a passionate minority of Republicans - largely the most hateful and sloppy-thinking among them.

I don’t know if the next face of the GOP will inspire a personality cult in quite the same way. But conservatives will be back in some form soon enough, and not led by any kind of Establishment figure.

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Response to MatthewG. (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:13 PM

5. Trump became what he is by speaking the "dark words" that existed in their brains.

Someone else can do it.

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Response to MatthewG. (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:36 PM

19. Thank God it won't be a neo-con

In many ways, I hate them more than Trumpers. Neo-cons love endless wars.

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:20 PM

7. Joseph McCarthey/Roy Cohn/John Birch Society is the genesis

of our current crop of orcs.

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Response to ZZenith (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:58 PM

13. Correct

And the idea that this is all going to go away when Trump is off the stage is dreaming.

Fascism here in the US is alive and well.

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Response to dwayneb (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:17 PM

18. Not sure about the "well" part.

I actually think they are desperate and see their last chance slipping away. Which it is.

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Response to MatthewG. (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:00 PM

2. Agreed

But I think a far greater group will be the same folks I encountered after W; life long republicans who suddenly became “independent” and professed to anyone who was in ear shot that “they didn’t subscribe to any party and always voted based on a candidate’s views”, of course it was all bullshit. And most of them went full on for the orange assbag.

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Response to odins folly (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:10 PM

4. I agree

I agree with you - end of the day, Trump’s post-Presidential travails probably won’t change many people’s actual voting pattern. He’ll be scorned; his party won’t be.

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Response to MatthewG. (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:17 PM

6. I worked along side of co workers who thought Nixon

was unfairly railroaded out of office 25 years after he resigned.

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Response to Emile (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:20 PM

8. Trump might be a little too sleazy for that.

I could be wrong, but I’d say Trump takes unpleasant personal sleaze past Nixonian levels. Some of the really nutty conspiracy obsessives May choose to overlook that in a decade’s time, but I’m not sure a lot of others will.

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Response to MatthewG. (Reply #8)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 09:42 PM

17. There will always be a few

Archie Bunkers around.

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Response to MatthewG. (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:27 PM

9. 15 years from now,

most who will be disclaiming whom???


The demise is strong with these ones...


That is all...

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Response to MatthewG. (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:28 PM

10. It didn't take them that long to start with President Bush the younger... /nt

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Response to artemisia1 (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:46 PM

11. Yep.

Trump is somewhat distinct from Bush in that he inspired a true political personality cult, but I doubt that’s really going to linger on, except among the most deluded conspiracy obsessives.

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Response to artemisia1 (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:38 PM

20. Big difference

The Bush's were never trusted by conservatives. Look at Reagan. They never turned against him.

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Response to MatthewG. (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:54 PM

12. Many think that now, but are too chicken shit to speak out. They rather see our country

fall apart than open their mouth and speak out. Sad, sad, sad.

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Response to MatthewG. (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 09:00 PM

14. 15 years!??

They'll be denouncing him next year....

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Response to Sogo (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 09:21 PM

15. Things do seem accelerated these days, so you may be right.

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Response to MatthewG. (Original post)

Thu Sep 22, 2022, 09:24 PM

16. 20 years too late

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Response to MatthewG. (Original post)

Fri Sep 23, 2022, 12:31 AM

21. nah

those of us who denying the new emperor will be long gone.

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