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Nevilledog

(51,006 posts)
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:47 PM Sep 2022

Trump asks QAnon to stand back and stand by.



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Trump asks QAnon to stand back and stand by.

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Analysis | Trump asks QAnon to stand back and stand by
The former president's long-standing flirtations with the conspiracy theory are becoming an embrace

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A guy deluded by QAnon literally murdered his wife a week or two ago. But QAnon people love Trump so his flirtations have become more obvious.

washingtonpost.com
Analysis | Trump asks QAnon to stand back and stand by
The former president's long-standing flirtations with the conspiracy theory are becoming an embrace
8:47 AM · Sep 19, 2022


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/19/trump-qanon-conspiracy-theories/

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https://archive.ph/y5gKA

Luckily for her, Rebecca Lanis wasn’t home when her father shot and killed her mother and severely wounded her sister earlier this month. So she was able to help offer one explanation for the otherwise inexplicable act: Her father had collapsed into the world of conspiracy theory after Donald Trump lost the 2020 presidential election. That includes the conspiracy known as QAnon, which Lanis in a Reddit post blamed unequivocally for muddying her father’s mind.

“It’s like he got possessed by a demon,” she wrote.

This is not the first time that QAnon has been intertwined in a murder. In early 2019, a man purportedly in the sway of the conspiracy theory shot to death a reputed gangster on Long Island. At the time, Marymount Manhattan College psychology professor Cheryl Paradis explained to The Washington Post that political rhetoric, like popular culture, could shape the paranoid delusions of the mentally ill. But in a May 2019 bulletin, the FBI made clear that it saw QAnon as something more dangerous.

“The FBl assesses anti-government, identity based, and fringe political conspiracy theories very likely motivate some domestic extremists, wholly or in part,” it read, “to commit criminal and sometimes violent activity.” That included potential “targeting of specific people, places, and organizations, thereby increasing the likelihood of violence against these targets.”

On Jan. 6, 2021, this warning was made manifest. Prominent among those who stormed the Capitol were explicit adherents to QAnon — the dangerous idea that there is a cabal of powerful pedophiles including prominent Democrats and cultural elites that Trump is silently working to dismantle.

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The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
1. It appears that Q's murdering their families has become part of the ritual.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:54 PM
Sep 2022

This really is no surprise since it's essentially a death cult.

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
2. Add to Bump's comment: another guy deluded by QAnon murdered his toddlers...
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:55 PM
Sep 2022

…because he was convinced they’d inherited alien DNA from their mother. This happened down the street from where a good friend of mine lives.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
3. Was that the California case?
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 01:58 PM
Sep 2022

I remember something like that happening there.

It's alarming how unhinged these people are.

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
5. Santa Barbara. I sure hope there wasn't another case -- he took those babies over the border...
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 02:04 PM
Sep 2022

…and left their little bodies in a field where Mexicans found them. God only knows what he had in mind for his wife, who is now a survivor of something no parent should have to endure.



Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
4. That man is the Jim jones and David koresh of the American
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 02:00 PM
Sep 2022

Political system.

Worse is the fact that so many of our citizens are gullible, corruptible, grifters themselves or totally ok with us going down the road to dictatorship.

Whatever democratic systems there are in this world, we can discuss their pros and cons but once you have widespread idolatry and corruption complicated by income inequality the endgame is near.

I shudder 4 more years of TFG or any other republican. Next time they’ll get it right.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,485 posts)
6. I haven't been hearing much new from QAnon lately
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 02:17 PM
Sep 2022

QAnon doesn't seem to be emitting (to use a euphemism) much new stuff recently, or maybe I just don't look in the right places. I rather suspect that he's too busy looking for sources for tanks, artillery, drones, and mercenaries to have enough time to do QAnon right. If you get my drift.

Nevilledog

(51,006 posts)
7. You're not looking in the right places...lol
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 02:25 PM
Sep 2022

They're really becoming intertwined with the Christofascists.

I follow many extremism researchers so I probably get more exposure to it.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,485 posts)
10. Sounds like you're talking the QAnon cultists, not QAnon itself or himself or whatever.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 04:10 PM
Sep 2022

"They're really becoming intertwined with the Christofascists."
The QAnon cultists ("they&quot are obviously quite active. I meant that I haven't heard many new pronouncements from QAnon itself. Am I out of the loop on the source?

Nevilledog

(51,006 posts)
11. Oh...."Q" disappeared a couple of years ago as far as posting.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 04:13 PM
Sep 2022

Didn't slow down the Qnuts. A Q has shown up on Truth Social but is not generally accepted.

I misunderstood.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,485 posts)
12. Thanks
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 04:25 PM
Sep 2022

I didn't realize it's been that long.

And I may have been misusing terms, saying QAnon when I maybe really meant Q.

I don't pay much attention to it except when gangs of loons are on the TV.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,270 posts)
17. Michael Flynn is riding the QAnon wave
Tue Sep 20, 2022, 04:49 AM
Sep 2022

Organising rallies and conferences:

He’s repeated falsehoods about Black Lives Matter and said that so-called globalists created COVID-19. He tells the tens of thousands of people who have paid to see him speak that there are 75 members of the Socialist Party in Congress, and has said the left and Democrats are trying to destroy the country. He asserts, above all else, that the United States was founded on Judeo-Christian values. The bedrock, he warns, is crumbling.
...
He has told audiences he doesn’t trust the U.S. government or government institutions that oversee the rule of law. He called the media “the No. 1 enemy” and said it has done a “horrible, horrible disservice to the country by just constantly lying and trying to deceive us.” He says elementary schools are teaching “filth” and “pornography.” He continues to assert, ignoring all evidence to the contrary, that elections can’t be trusted. He says, over and over, that some of his fellow Americans are “evil.”
...
The program included dozens of speakers and exhibitors talking about a grab bag of ideas and causes that have seized and panicked the right — about vaccines, human trafficking, elections and the QAnon conspiracy theory.

Among the sponsors and exhibitors were the John Birch Society; businesses selling everything from texting services for political campaigns to food dehydrators; Ammon Bundy’s anti-government People’s Rights group; and America’s Frontline Doctors, which has spread false information about COVID-19 and promoted unproven treatments such as ivermectin, a drug used to treat parasitic infections. State lawmakers from Arizona and Utah spoke, and members of the Utah Republican Party’s governing committee were among the organizers.

The program kicked off with an invocation by a preacher who brought the crowd to its feet as he described a “prophecy” of a “Great Awakening” where “Americans are going to rise up and defeat the cabal.”

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/michael-flynn-government-insider-holy-warrior/

Bayard

(22,005 posts)
9. I think a lot of these people already have these violent proclivities
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 04:02 PM
Sep 2022

Buried inside them. trump just gives them permission to act on them.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
13. Absolutely true.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 06:11 PM
Sep 2022

Hubby and I have often wondered what it would take for my brother, a Trump supporter, to snap. Seriously.
He's not a violent person but has always been full of hostilities. The causes are a long story, but the bottom line is that he was an abused child who caught twice the abused I did.

I think such wounded people carry a lot of pain and look for a safe targets for their displaced anger.

You summed it up better.





Initech

(100,038 posts)
14. Yes, like megachurch pastors, Trump preys on vulnerable people.
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 06:36 PM
Sep 2022

And he attracts people who are, to put it lightly, at their worst, and he amplifies those terrible feelings and encourages people to act on those terrible feelings. It's truly scary.

Kid Berwyn

(14,796 posts)
15. QAnon is a NAZI Cult, Rebranded
Mon Sep 19, 2022, 07:44 PM
Sep 2022


QAnon is a Nazi Cult, Rebranded

Gregory Stanton
Just Security, Sept. 9, 2020

Excerpt...

I have studied and worked to prevent genocide for forty years. Genocide Watch and the Alliance Against Genocide, the first international anti-genocide coalition, see such hate-filled conspiracy theories as early warning signs of deadly genocidal violence.

The plot, described above, was the conspiracy “revealed” in the most influential anti-Jewish pamphlet of all time. It was called The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It was written by Russian anti-Jewish propagandists around 1902. It collected myths about a Jewish plot to take over the world that had existed for hundreds of years. Central to its mythology was the Blood Libel, which claimed that Jews kidnapped and slaughtered Christian children and drained their blood to mix in the dough for matzos consumed on Jewish holidays.

The Nazis published a children’s book of the Protocols that they required in the curriculum of every primary school in Germany. The Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer (derived from the German word for “Storm”) spread the Blood Libel. Hitler’s Mein Kampf, his narcissistic autobiography and manifesto for his battle against the Jewish plot to rule the world, copied his conspiracy theories from the Protocols.

The Nazis worshiped Adolf Hitler as the Leader who would rescue the white race from this secret Jewish plot. Nazi “storm troopers” (“storm detachment” – Sturmabteilung) helped bring Hitler to power. Nazi Germany went on to conquer Europe and murder six million Jews and millions of Roma, Slavs, LGBTQ and other people.

America had its own dark side. Henry Ford echoed Nazi hatred of Jews and had 500,000 copies of the Protocols printed and distributed in the U.S. Father Coughlin preached the Protocols on national radio. The Ku Klux Klan combined its white supremacist racism with hatred of Jews.

QAnon’s conspiracy theory is a rebranded version of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

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https://www.justsecurity.org/72339/qanon-is-a-nazi-cult-rebranded/
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