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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 10:02 AM

Star Member Ligyron (7,460 posts)

Donald Trump is the most dangerous person since Adolph Hitler.

He may well be even more dangerous if he somehow manages to get elected POTUS again. He’ll destroy all remaining mores and traditions in the political arena and if there’s not a law somehow enacted preventing it; Trump will do it.

Shit, he might do it anyway even if there is a law against it and end up getting away with it.

He certainly Nazified the GOP successfully and they trip all over themselves trying to please the orange menace and gain his favor. Watch that judge in Florida rule that Trump certainly does have executive privilege since Biden isn’t the real President.

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Reply Donald Trump is the most dangerous person since Adolph Hitler. (Original post)
 Ligyron Sep 2022 OP
LineReply Hitler with thousands of nukes and 840 billion a year military. The World fears also.
 Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2022 #1
LineReply Yes he is, and the threat should be taken seriously. It can happen here. January 6th should have
 JohnSJ Sep 2022 #2
LineReply I think Pol Pot would disagree. Maybe the Hutus have a claim?
 JanMichael Sep 2022 #3
LineLineReply Yes, I agree
 PatSeg Sep 2022 #6
LineLineReply 1. Pol Pot didn't have thousands of nukes.
 Justice matters. Sep 2022 #19
LineLineLineNew Reply Putin does though.
 JanMichael Sep 2022 #40
LineReply He's dangerous because he constantly gets attention
 jimfields33 Sep 2022 #4
LineReply 11th Circuit Court sees this. They decided ON THE WEEKEND to protect Top Secret Docs and DOJ probe
 TigressDem Sep 2022 #5
LineLineReply The Appeals Court is only requiring an expedited response from the Pig.
 Thomas Hurt Sep 2022 #8
LineLineLineReply Which prevents him from endless delay of the DOJ process
 TigressDem Sep 2022 #10
LineLineLineReply A very rapid response. Tuesday will put tons of pressure...
 paleotn Sep 2022 #31
LineLineReply Conners Order Remains In Effect
 DallasNE Sep 2022 #13
LineLineLineReply That all could have happened anyway.
 TigressDem Sep 2022 #14
LineLineLineReply If Dearie is quick, he could review the 100 docs in the next week or so and hand them over...
 Thomas Hurt Sep 2022 #16
LineLineLineLineReply DOJ Is Currently Blocked From Viewing Documents
 DallasNE Sep 2022 #22
LineLineLineLineLineReply Dearie is the special master.
 Thomas Hurt Sep 2022 #23
LineLineLineLineLineLineReply My Bad, The Name Didn't Register But
 DallasNE Sep 2022 #26
LineLineLineLineNew Reply Does he have clearance to view them?
 paleotn Sep 2022 #32
LineLineReply The Court has not responded
 Wibly Sep 2022 #20
LineLineLineReply They could have delayed that order until after the midterms but they didn't.
 Justice matters. Sep 2022 #25
LineReply We have what Hitler's supporters did not have.
 Turbineguy Sep 2022 #7
LineReply Liz Truss is right there with him.
 Mme. Defarge Sep 2022 #9
LineLineReply Truss: 'I hated being told what to do'
 peppertree Sep 2022 #18
LineReply Message auto-removed
 Name removed Sep 2022 #11
LineReply I agree.
 FoxNewsSucks Sep 2022 #12
LineReply We need to pull the curtain back and expose the dark money fueling this.
 Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #15
LineReply And de Satan's even worse
 peppertree Sep 2022 #17
LineReply Trump is only dangerous as long as the Murdochs want him to be
 DFW Sep 2022 #21
LineLineReply They started the lying, extremist "entertainment" propaganda catapult to line their pockets.
 Justice matters. Sep 2022 #29
LineReply Stalin & Mao killed more than Hitler.
 oldsoftie Sep 2022 #24
LineLineReply People don't know much about history
 Kaleva Sep 2022 #28
LineLineLineNew Reply True
 TheProle Sep 2022 #34
LineLineLineLineNew Reply If Twitter tells people something often enough, they start to believe it.
 Kaleva Sep 2022 #38
LineLineLineNew Reply I guess Hitler IS the "go to" for evil. Probably because WE caught him.
 oldsoftie Sep 2022 #35
LineLineLineLineNew Reply Hitler is the Boogeyman despite Mao's & Stalin's more murderous records.
 Kaleva Sep 2022 #37
LineReply If he truly was, one would think people here would be taking drastic measures
 Kaleva Sep 2022 #27
LineReply Trump is taking the media slings and arrows until they're ready to anoint
 Jarqui Sep 2022 #30
LineNew Reply Evil personified...
 kentuck Sep 2022 #33
LineNew Reply CIA could take care of that.
 triron Sep 2022 #36
LineNew Reply If he's given a second term, he will go full genocidal maniac.
 Initech Sep 2022 #39
LineNew Reply I would say the Republican Party is.
 chowder66 Sep 2022 #41

Response to Ligyron (Original post)

Sun Sep 18, 2022, 10:04 AM

Alexander Of Assyria (7,572 posts)

1. Hitler with thousands of nukes and 840 billion a year military. The World fears also.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 10:05 AM

Star Member JohnSJ (89,235 posts)

2. Yes he is, and the threat should be taken seriously. It can happen here. January 6th should have

made that clear

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 10:12 AM

JanMichael (24,634 posts)

3. I think Pol Pot would disagree. Maybe the Hutus have a claim?

Then maybe of course Putin is winning the crazy fucking lunatic furher game for now.

Trumpy is an amateur compared to the above nuts post WWII.

I the US maybe but Hitler thus WWII was mentioned. FDR wasn't the problem.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 10:57 AM

Star Member PatSeg (45,805 posts)

6. Yes, I agree

I would Putin more in the Hitler category than Trump, though I consider Trump to be extremely dangerous to democracy.

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Response to JanMichael (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:09 PM

Star Member Justice matters. (6,557 posts)

19. 1. Pol Pot didn't have thousands of nukes.

2. Pol Pot didn't have 24/7 HD cable networks catapulting Fascist propaganda aimed to install him and his crooked family as the new "royal-family-dynasty" of the Divided States for many millions of dollars in ads revenue (nothing else matter for the Australian-bastards-originated Murdochs).

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 02:08 PM

JanMichael (24,634 posts)

40. Putin does though.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 10:13 AM

jimfields33 (14,248 posts)

4. He's dangerous because he constantly gets attention

The media and social media write about him numerous times a day. You can’t go to any platform and not see hundreds of threads. I don’t understand why everyone talks about him. I think a better strategy is to ignore him. I mean seriously do we care that he goes to DC on occasions? It’s just so strange the attention he gets. He’s been gone for two years but you never know it.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 10:52 AM

TigressDem (5,014 posts)

5. 11th Circuit Court sees this. They decided ON THE WEEKEND to protect Top Secret Docs and DOJ probe




The Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals has quickly responded over the weekend to the Department of Justice’s Motion for Partial Stay Pending Appeal and Ordered Trump to Respond to the Motion by Tuesday. The Department of Justice has argued the 100 classified records should not be subject to the special master process and Judge Cannon’s Order should not include those records.


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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:25 AM

Thomas Hurt (13,903 posts)

8. The Appeals Court is only requiring an expedited response from the Pig.

They haven't made any decision yet.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:37 AM

TigressDem (5,014 posts)

10. Which prevents him from endless delay of the DOJ process

tRump has not actually said he owns the Top Secret Docs.

They are pushing him to make some reason to keep these.

He lies he loses.

He doesn't have a reason to keep top secret docs.... then they go back to DOJ.



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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #8)

Sun Sep 18, 2022, 01:03 PM

Star Member paleotn (16,880 posts)

31. A very rapid response. Tuesday will put tons of pressure...

on Donnie's legal team to come up with better half ass excuses. This usually plays out over a much longer length of time.

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Response to TigressDem (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:46 AM

DallasNE (7,333 posts)

13. Conners Order Remains In Effect

Trump lawyers have until Tuesday noon to respond to the DOJ stay request on th classified documents. The 11th Circuit will then issue a ruling on whether to grant the stay. If they grant the stay Trump could then appeal to SCOTUS., which could lift the stay pending a ruling. Their next session starts in October so this could delay a decision until after the November election.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:51 AM

TigressDem (5,014 posts)

14. That all could have happened anyway.

BUT if we can just get the Top Secret Documents out of the deal and then the investigation continues, it is worth a try.

It's a clear and definitive choice that gives both the 11th and SCOTUS an out of supporting what tRump SAYS he is asking for without giving him what isn't his in the first place. Executive Privilege after losing the election.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:58 AM

Thomas Hurt (13,903 posts)

16. If Dearie is quick, he could review the 100 docs in the next week or so and hand them over...

problem is Loose Cannon probably has to sign off on that. Have to see if she makes up more bee ess to cover for the Pig again.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:18 PM

DallasNE (7,333 posts)

22. DOJ Is Currently Blocked From Viewing Documents

Including the classified documents that the DOJ needs for its criminal probe, effectively obstructing justice.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:21 PM

Thomas Hurt (13,903 posts)

23. Dearie is the special master.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:48 PM

DallasNE (7,333 posts)

26. My Bad, The Name Didn't Register But

My point was that the DOJ has not yet turned over the 100 classified documents so Dearie currently has no access.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 01:06 PM

Star Member paleotn (16,880 posts)

32. Does he have clearance to view them?

If not, that's a violation of federal law in itself. And where are the documents physically right now? I doubt DOJ just handed them over as soon as loose cannon ruled.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:09 PM

Wibly (612 posts)

20. The Court has not responded

It has simply directed Trump to respond by Tuesday. It has not addressed the issue contained in the DOJ appeal.
Please leave the hyperbole to the GOP.
All it does is make this poster look like a click baiter, and it also makes the Dem side look stupid thinking a court directive is somehow a response to a complaint.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:36 PM

Star Member Justice matters. (6,557 posts)

25. They could have delayed that order until after the midterms but they didn't.

The matter is too dangerous to the National Security to sit on their asses. The case could imply real human lives and numerous damages to our Intelligence sources (allied countries are discussing to stop sharing their intel with the US if the traitor's Fascist menace is not contained and if he runs for office with the republiQan states legislatures intents to throw out the results of the 2024 election if they don't like them by selecting their own EC republiQan voters to the NARA).

They KNOW the Rule of Law and the stakes are way to high to sit on their asses. Human-resources and terrorist threats are on the line here!

If they reacted THAT fast, maybe they will allow the DOJ+IC to resume their investigation that Qannon hack halted.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:24 AM

Star Member Turbineguy (36,389 posts)

7. We have what Hitler's supporters did not have.

Knowledge of how things looked in 1945.

And then came the Nuremburg Trials.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:29 AM

Mme. Defarge (7,846 posts)

9. Liz Truss is right there with him.

Excerpts from this article in the 9/22/22 issue of the New York Review of Books.

The Party’s Over
Fintan O’Toole

Truss will take the Tories further down the only path that is open to them, that of anarcho-authoritarianism. Like Johnson, she projects herself as a rebel against authority: “I hated being told what to do and that has driven my political philosophy.” She put forward the legislation that allows British government ministers to break international law by tearing up the Northern Ireland protocol. She has indicated her willingness to withdraw the UK from the European Convention on Human Rights.
This outlawry is underpinned by the language of piracy. A chapter in Britannia Unchained, a 2012 book cowritten by Truss and other rising Conservative politicians, is titled “Buccaneers” and quotes Steve Jobs approvingly: “It’s more fun to be a pirate than to join the navy.” It concedes, with evident reluctance, that “law and order” are “on the whole beneficial.” But it hankers after an ideal of “capitalism as chaos,” the magic that happens “when nearly all society’s strictures are relaxed.” Hence the claim by Truss’s supporter David Frost, who led negotiations of the Brexit deal with the EU and is widely expected to have an important role in a Truss administration, that “what needs to be done [by the new prime minister] will be turbulent and disruptive.”
This promise of disruption is all that remains of Brexit. It can function now only as a fantasy of liberation, not from Brussels but from all restraint on the making of money. Truss’s language evokes a Britain whose only real problem is that its natural exuberance has been constrained by regulation. Hence the recurrence in her rhetoric of “unchain,” “unleash,” “unshackle.” But, as in current US conservatism, these images of freedom must go hand in hand with their opposite. When she is not talking of unshackling everything, Truss is promising to “crack down” on everything. The chains that are to be taken off the moneymakers will be clamped on much of civil society.
In her speeches, and in the way they are reported by her fans in the Tory press, she has promised, so far, to “crack down” on “militant” trade unions, on civil servants who are working from home, on Chinese companies like TikTok, on onshore renewable energy projects, on “unfair protests” by climate activists, on “antisocial” behavior, on illegal migration, and on the “excessive caution” of financial regulators. She is even promising to repress criticism of the dire condition of post-Brexit Britain, warning the democratically elected first minister of the devolved administration in Wales that “I will crack down on his negativity about Wales and about the United Kingdom.” In the pantomimes, it is customary for the audience to cry out against certain assertions made by the characters: “Oh, no, it isn’t.” In this next version of the show, those who dare to make that call will be ejected from the theater.


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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:05 PM

peppertree (20,473 posts)

18. Truss: 'I hated being told what to do'

In other words, she's an overgrown child.

I didn't realize she had that problem - she comes off more like an embittered, vindictive old maid.

Growing up in Mississippi, they were everywhere.

98% Republican, of course. They went to church on Sunday - and then got busy plotting against others on Monday.

Malice and revenge were the only two things that seemed to give their lives any meaning.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:46 AM

Star Member FoxNewsSucks (10,236 posts)

12. I agree.

And it seems that while most of our elected Democrats realize it also, too many don't realize or underestimate the determination of the fascists to seize and keep power.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:54 AM

Star Member Joinfortmill (12,903 posts)

15. We need to pull the curtain back and expose the dark money fueling this.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 11:59 AM

peppertree (20,473 posts)

17. And de Satan's even worse

Just as craven, shameless and egomaniacal - but younger.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:16 PM

Star Member DFW (52,333 posts)

21. Trump is only dangerous as long as the Murdochs want him to be

If Fox Noise and the Wall Street Journal decide to pretend he doesn't exist any more, then he ceases to exist. They'll find another figurehead, DeSade, Haley, Cruz-you-lose, it doesn't matter.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:53 PM

Star Member Justice matters. (6,557 posts)

29. They started the lying, extremist "entertainment" propaganda catapult to line their pockets.

And now, near three decades later, they have competitors (who also want to line their Fascist pockets) on cable.

Not to diminish the daily doses of hate-radio catapults who also want to line their own pockets (and do) role.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:21 PM

oldsoftie (11,656 posts)

24. Stalin & Mao killed more than Hitler.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:50 PM

Star Member Kaleva (35,479 posts)

28. People don't know much about history

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 01:25 PM

TheProle (1,561 posts)

34. True

Recency bias and poor education are a hell of a combo.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 01:51 PM

Star Member Kaleva (35,479 posts)

38. If Twitter tells people something often enough, they start to believe it.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 01:27 PM

oldsoftie (11,656 posts)

35. I guess Hitler IS the "go to" for evil. Probably because WE caught him.

Stalin & Mao hid a lot of their killing since they ran a closed society.
We see Putin being exposed in real time because of the internet

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 01:49 PM

Star Member Kaleva (35,479 posts)

37. Hitler is the Boogeyman despite Mao's & Stalin's more murderous records.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:50 PM

Star Member Kaleva (35,479 posts)

27. If he truly was, one would think people here would be taking drastic measures

The most dangerous man since Hitler warrants more then some posts on a internet discussion board I would think. Unless he actually isn't anywhere the most dangerous man since Hitler.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 12:58 PM

Star Member Jarqui (9,729 posts)

30. Trump is taking the media slings and arrows until they're ready to anoint

DeSantis - who is far more dangerous than Trump.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 01:12 PM

Star Member kentuck (110,461 posts)

33. Evil personified...

...comes along every two or three generations. We were lucky. We get two. Putin and Trump.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 01:29 PM

triron (21,514 posts)

36. CIA could take care of that.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 02:02 PM

Initech (98,617 posts)

39. If he's given a second term, he will go full genocidal maniac.

And he'll have Fox News, the Christian right, AM talk radio, and social media propaganda cheering on his every move.

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Sun Sep 18, 2022, 02:43 PM

Star Member chowder66 (8,577 posts)

41. I would say the Republican Party is.

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