Alex Wagner has totally lost a viewer. WTF is she doing trying to act like the college

[BComplex]

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loan forgiveness is going to trash the democrats' chances in November? She was all up in arms because Biden (RIGHTFULLY) said MAGAts are trending semi fascists. There's nothing fucking "soft" about it! They are mostly white "christian" nationalists, and they're shooting democrats all over the place!

I can't stand how she was fishing for how badly Joe Biden is doing.

[Murphyb849]

1. I do not like her show. I miss Ali Velshi.

[dhol82]

6. I do too.

At least Ali didn’t put me to sleep.
She seems sincere but just has no dynamic presence.

[Green Line]

22. Totally agree with you

Ali is so much better, she’s boring.

[BComplex]

7. I miss Ali, too.

Alex must be trying to impress the overwhelming majority of the republicans that make up the board of directors. Poor Ron Klain was trying to back-step her relentless right wing push, but she just kept coming.

Tim Ryan needs to explain the college loan forgiveness for all the massive interest that so many people have had to pay to go to college. The students didn't just have to pay for school: their loans amount to WAY more than what they originally borrowed, and even Ohioans can understand getting sucked under for debt.

College should be free.

[questionseverything]

45. Klain was there to defend the administration's policies

Alex was the friendly media serving him up softball questions

[wackadoo wabbit]

40. Let me join the chorus of those who want Ali Velshi in that slot

He is so, so much better than Alex Wagner and is a worthy successor to Rachel. Wagner is not.

[Ocelot II]

2. I guess I was watching a different Alex Wagner; I didn't get that interpretation at all.

[elleng]

3. Thanks

[dchill]

5. Right?

There seems to be a predisposure to dislike Rachel's replacement. I may not like everything she does, but I don't fault her motives.

[BidenRocks]

26. This is Jeopardy!

About as tough.

[questionseverything]

30. Sometimes people seem to feel if the reporter tells what the right is doing

It means they agree with it, which of course is incorrect

Wagner is doing in depth reporting, not cheerleading, which seems to upset some

[BlackSkimmer]

42. Spot on.

These kind of threads seem to be proliferating here lately. Interesting.

[Samrob]

57. Sometimes telling what the right is doing give needless life to their antics. We need more

discussion about that the President is actually doing and allow the viewers to decide what they think about what he is doing and not about what the RW-Trumpers think he is doing. If we want to know what they are doing we can always take a look at FOX.

What is heard and repeated often become reality for some people even if it is a lie. Wagner is not the only news host that does this.

[questionseverything]

69. No way Fox News is going to go into depth about how repubs are taking over school

Boards

[BComplex]

65. She wasn't telling what the right was doing...which by the way, seeps into everything

so we NEVER wonder what the right was doing...it's the default "reality" in this country.

She was pushing against what Biden & the hundreds of democratic representatives and senators have done with a very accusatory posture and message.

Ron Klain was speechless for a minute there, and VERY much on the defensive.

[questionseverything]

68. Klain was on a delay , not speechless

She was giving background and softball questions so the Biden administration could get it’s message out

[yorkster]

70. I saw that portion of the show later last night.

Her questions twisted Biden's words and had me wondering if she had listened at all to what he said.
Klain did well, but the whole interview came across as confrontational and misleading on the part of the host.

[BComplex]

71. That was what I saw, too, yorkster, and I don't understand the disconnect

represented on this thread. It seems a bunch of us watched the same thing, but only some of us got our radar buttons pushed.

That's just really strange to me!

[BlueIdaho]

9. Me either nt.

[Celerity]

20. yes, the hit patrol is out on multiple threads inventing things out of whole cloth once again

smdh

[BComplex]

72. That's just your opinion.

And one I take issue with, obviously.

[inthewind21]

73. And your's

is just yours.

[BComplex]

74. No, actually it's a very popular position.

There are just as many people here who think she's doing a right wing push, as there are cheerleaders for her like yourself.

[tishaLA]

33. same nt

[Hekate]

37. Same here

[kentuck]

50. Neither did I...

I did not interpret her as doing anything except in-depth reporting?

[inthewind21]

56. Right

[OAITW r.2.0]

4. Oh well. Her hosting does not meet with your approval? Will she lose the election for us?

Not fucking likely.

[BComplex]

11. That's not even the point.

There's SO MUCH that is great about what Biden/democrats did in getting that bill passed! She's up there not just whining about Tim Ryan's chances being ruined by it in Ohio, but stating that "BIDEN" made it harder for a lot of races where candidates don't support it. WTF???

[OAITW r.2.0]

13. So she will lose the election for us?

Maybe we should get the fires underway.....

[Sogo]

17. Uh, Tim Ryan has come out in opposition to the loan forgiveness....

She didn't say it was ruining his chances.

[Celerity]

23. correct, she never said that

[BlackSkimmer]

44. Thank you nt

[SlimJimmy]

19. Wow

I like your enthusiasm, but I'm not buying a blue wave. Generally speaking, I try not to set myself up for failure. My predictions,. We hold the Senate, but lose the House. Feel free to bookmark this for later.

[Takket]

10. yeah nothing trashes election chances like giving the public what it wants

[RicROC]

12. I miss Ali Velshi, too.

At least now with the changes in MSNBC evening line-up, i have more time to do other things since I don't need to be glued to the tv all night long. Other than Monday night, I feel up to date if I just watch just The ReidOut and Lawrence O'Donnell.

[mahina]

16. Is he gone? Rats.

It was Johnny on the spot any a great insights and I think he’s a very fine journalist.

[yorkster]

29. He's not gone. Still doing Sat and Sun 8 to 10am.

I really liked him in the evening slot. He sometimes covers for Lawrence on Friday night.

Alex is ok, but no reason why Velshi should not have that slot if he wants it. They replaced Brian Willuams with a female host, could certainly have a male host in the 9 pm slot. Velshi has gravitas, empathy, and graciousness.
As someone said a week or so ago, maybe Velshi prefers the schedule he has now. He's free to do book tours, host various forums etc. His intelligence and genuine curiosity shine through. Oh well. ..

I also think that Alicia Menendez has been doing very well whenever she substitutes for vacationing hosts.

[txwhitedove]

64. Very well said, and exactly why I watch Velshi whenever he is on.

[yorkster]

67. Thanks, txwhitedove..... n/t

[BComplex]

66. I agree. Alicia Menendez has been awesome!

She would be better in that slot than Alex.

[Deuxcents]

18. I'll agree.. change is hard but like you, I pick my favorites.

[CousinIT]

24. I like those too and Nicole Wallace on Dateline

...even though I often miss it because it's on at 4:00 pm where I live. I've not made any judgements yet about Alex Wagner. Her first two shows were OK. I missed it tonight.

[ebbie15644]

27. They're the only ones I watch too

I did watch Velho but I never cared for Alex Wagner much

[ebbie15644]

28. Velshi

[BComplex]

14. Someone posted on Linked in

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217084121


Somebody just posted that Jesus' miracle of blessing the fishes and loaves and feeding the crowd was a slap in the face to everyone who had brought their own lunch.

There's a woman and her husband in North Carolina that have always been rightwing republicans, and the Roe decision and the republican whining about the college loan forgiveness has turned them both into democrats.

This couple are in their late 60's.

[brooklynite]

15. So your problem is that she disagrees with you?

I can think of a lot of political problems that loan forgiveness creates.

[BComplex]

21. Such as?

I can think of a lot of political problems that loan forgiveness creates.

I would love to hear them. I'd especially like to hear "a lot" of political problems that loan forgiveness creates.

You mean, it might make selfish rightwingers whine?

[Abolishinist]

31. A few from Tim Ryan.

I'm not a big fan of the forgiveness, per se. In the end I could give a flying F, but to me the ENTIRE program from top to bottom has been out of control for a very long time. My overall view is pretty much in line with Mr. Ryan.

"Instead of forgiving student loans for six-figure earners, we should be working to level the playing field for all Americans – including an across-the-board tax cut for working and middle-class families, medical debt cancellation, targeted forgiveness for essential workers and more opportunities for student borrowers to refinance their loans, and investing in apprenticeships, universal community college, and workforce development and training programs so all Americans – not just college grads – have a shot at success," Ryan added.

[BComplex]

32. And I argue that "instead of" it should be "in addition to".

Education should be free and public. A better educated population makes better decisions.

[Abolishinist]

35. Fascinating.

So, to be clear, an MBA working for Goldman Sachs makes "better decisions" than a factory worker at, say, General Motors.

[BComplex]

36. So maybe we should just forego education altogether.

[W_HAMILTON]

41. 90% of the relief will go towards those making less than $75,000/year.

A very small percentage -- we're talking you can count it on one hand -- will go towards those making """six figures,""" and even among those, there are plenty that live in high COL areas where """six figures""" doesn't go nearly as far as much less than that does in a state like Ohio.

In a year where Democrats are doing surprisingly well in the Senate, and even Democrats in purple states are running as heavy favorites, maybe Ryan should look within and question why he's one of the few Democratic Senate candidates that is performing poorly, ESPECIALLY when you consider how terrible his opponent is.

[BComplex]

63. Exactly!! Democrats do better when they come out STRONGLY in favor of our values

and when they say it loud and proud. That's why Bernie still brings crowds of thousands together.

[Deminpenn]

46. Medical debt forgiveness is interesting

You'd probably hear the same "what about people who pay their bills" arguments.

[brooklynite]

34. Resentment from non-College graduates (who are NOT all "selfish right-wingers")

Open question of what happens to NEW college students taking out loans this Fall.

Failure to address the underlying problem of college COSTS.

[W_HAMILTON]

43. They get to reap the benefits of Biden's new and improved repayment plan.

I remember you criticizing Fetterman for seeming "light" on policy -- you weren't aware of this?

[Deminpenn]

47. The root problem is students/parents/families not

understanding how these loans work.

[BannonsLiver]

60. Trade school debt is eligible as well.

Trade schools are where people go when they want to learn valuable skills like plumbing and welding. They typically don’t have spring cotillions, dad’s day weekends or homecoming parades, but it’s an education nonetheless. It’s a side of pleb life that perhaps is unfamiliar to some.

[PufPuf23]

51. The predatory lenders and schools are made whole in any case by taxpayers

while some students turned debt slaves are less fucked.

Education costs have skyrocketed because of the availability of student loans.

But many students find their education not worth the cost and the outstanding loans hobble their lives.

Posted earlier:

>>The root problem of student loan debt is the money grubbing student loan "industry"

and the way above inflation of higher education costs to consumer.

I have an MBA from Haas Business School (Cal, otherwise known as UC Berkeley), Class of 1987 (graduated age 34).

I paid iirc about $1200 per year in student fees / tuition for 2 years or less than $2500 total.

Look at current costs for Haas, a public university.

http://mba.haas.berkeley.edu/admissions/costs-and-financial-aid

Current cost for student fees and tuition alone is $67,424 for a CA resident or about $135,000 for the two year program.

University more than ever is a filter to divide the haves from the have nots

[Treefrog]

76. I think you nailed it.

I don't get why people watch shows they don't like. That makes no sense to me.

[USALiberal]

25. Apparently you and I watch a different show, please post the link to her issue that you don't like!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

38. I have not been able to watch her for more than five minutes or so

[USALiberal]

49. Maybe just quit then!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

75. I have stopped watching this show

[renate]

39. I think she's doing a great job!

I adore Rachel and always will, but Alex seems to be focusing more on current events and less on history. Both are important—past is prologue after all—but I love her focus on the extreme right’s focus on education. It’s super important right now.

[Demsrule86]

53. I don't wish to hear right-wing talking points so I won't watch her both sides kind of. show.

[Emile]

48. I said Ari Melber would have been a better choice for that time slot!

She didn't impress me when she was on Showtime's The Circus. She came across as a Republican lite.

[Demsrule86]

52. That is what she does. This is why I never watch her nor will I. I hope she is done soon and we

get Velshi who is way better. I don't like her and never liked any of her shows.

[BannonsLiver]

54. All cable news is shit

[pwb]

55. Did she mention Republicans all got help too?

They all act like it just goes to Democrats. Maybe she could ask pukes to give theirs back. No chance. Big money turns even our favorite news talkers to the dark side. Wealth has their ways.

[BannonsLiver]

58. I wouldn't know

I gave up cable news 4 years ago.

[pwb]

59. Me too.

I get some channels on Hulu. My Apologies, that was meant to be a reply to the O P.

[BannonsLiver]

61. No prob have a great day!