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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,837 posts)
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:05 PM Aug 2022

Trump doesn't deny taking classified nuclear documents from the White House while baselessly

accusing Obama of the same thing

In a statement released Friday, former President Donald Trump didn't deny a Washington Post report that said the FBI searched his Mar-a-Lago home for classified documents with information about nuclear weapons.

Instead, he again attacked former President Barack Obama, baselessly accusing him of illegally keeping classified documents.

"President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified," Trump said. "How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!"

Asked whether Trump's statement appeared to confirm that nuclear documents were uncovered in the Mar-a-Lago raid, a former Justice Department official replied, "Sounds like it."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-doesn-t-deny-taking-classified-nuclear-documents-from-the-white-house-while-baselessly-accusing-obama-of-the-same-thing/ar-AA10B7gP

Oh FFS what a big baby.

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Trump doesn't deny taking classified nuclear documents from the White House while baselessly (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2022 OP
wtf is he talking about? did I miss something? FirstLight Aug 2022 #1
is he making up his own reality again? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2022 #2
Total bunk. None taken. 30 million, none classified, all under US fed gov control: NARA Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2022 #3
National Archives folks said Slobby is lying malaise Aug 2022 #9
correct me if I'm wrong...but this is because former Pres. need access to stuff FirstLight Aug 2022 #10
Not qualified tomrespond malaise Aug 2022 #11
SHUT UP, you Psychotic POS. Cha Aug 2022 #4
Sounds like slander to me. Does he really want to get in a pissing match? Boomerproud Aug 2022 #5
"What about..." Catherine Vincent Aug 2022 #6
What people are missing when they talk about Trump "declassifying" these documents VMA131Marine Aug 2022 #7
So he is confessing? Oh yeah. twodogsbarking Aug 2022 #8
He's confessing AND lying moose65 Aug 2022 #12
K&R UTUSN Aug 2022 #13
The Archives immediately released a statement viva la Aug 2022 #14
He thinks that including the "Hussein" will win the day for him DavidDvorkin Aug 2022 #15

FirstLight

(13,357 posts)
1. wtf is he talking about? did I miss something?
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:14 PM
Aug 2022

I dont recall anything of the sort...is he making up his own reality again?

what sucks is the MAGAts will slurp it up no questions asked, and await further instructions... :eyeroll:

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,984 posts)
3. Total bunk. None taken. 30 million, none classified, all under US fed gov control: NARA
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:17 PM
Aug 2022

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/12/us/politics/obama-national-archives.html

But the National Archives and Records Administration, or NARA, which preserves and maintains records after a president leaves office, confirmed on Friday afternoon that Mr. Obama had turned over his documents — classified and unclassified — as required under the Presidential Records Act of 1978.

The National Archives “assumed exclusive legal and physical custody of Obama presidential records when President Barack Obama left office in 2017, in accordance with the Presidential Records Act,” the statement said. “NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area, where they are maintained exclusively by NARA. Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, D.C., area.”

“As required by the P.R.A.,” the statement added, referring to the Presidential Records Act, “former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the presidential records of his administration.”

malaise

(268,844 posts)
9. National Archives folks said Slobby is lying
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:32 PM
Aug 2022

National Archives rejects Trump's claim that Obama took 33 million pages of classified documents from the White House and insists they are in a secure facility in Chicago

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11106993/National-Archives-rejects-Trumps-claim-Obama-took-33-million-pages-records.html

Sue him Obama!

FirstLight

(13,357 posts)
10. correct me if I'm wrong...but this is because former Pres. need access to stuff
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:35 PM
Aug 2022

so they can act in a advisory role during big events. And his "handing them over" was part of a age old ritual of the Pres giving his stuff to the Archives as he leaves office.

Am I close?

VMA131Marine

(4,136 posts)
7. What people are missing when they talk about Trump "declassifying" these documents
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:29 PM
Aug 2022

Is that documents are classified because of the information they contain. Behind every classified document is a Classification Guide that tells people working a particular classified program how to mark materials associated with that program they create.

Declassification of a document therefore is not merely the act of crossing out all the “Confidential,” “Secret,” “top Secret” markings on the document because the classification guide still exists.

So if Trump says he declassified the documents without changing the classification guide that has a knock-on effect on any other document that contains the same now declassified information. If someone accesses information in a document Trump says he’s declassified without the classification guide being changed that information could still be considered classified. That’s why declassifying stuff is not as simple. It usually happens a a program level so there isn’t “orphaned” classified information hanging around. Trump is ex post facto saying he declassified these documents because he knows how much trouble he is in otherwise. It’s not going to work, and it can’t be allowed to work.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
12. He's confessing AND lying
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 08:57 PM
Aug 2022

Obama didn't "keep" anything.

The de-classified or unclassified documents were sent to Chicago, but they are still under the control of the Archives. The classified documents are still in DC (as is Obama, by the way). He never had possession of ANY document, and certainly never had them locked in the basement at his home.

viva la

(3,280 posts)
14. The Archives immediately released a statement
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 09:39 PM
Aug 2022

That Obama had followed the rules, and all the materials are still under the control of the archives.

That is, he did not steal anything.

DavidDvorkin

(19,473 posts)
15. He thinks that including the "Hussein" will win the day for him
Fri Aug 12, 2022, 09:41 PM
Aug 2022

GOPers always think that we sane people will react as irrationally to Obama's full name as they do.

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