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Fri Aug 5, 2022, 07:55 PM

Viktor Orbn laid out his dark worldview to the American right -- and they loved it




https://www.vox.com/2022/8/5/23292448/orban-cpac-dallas-2022-speech-trump

About two weeks ago, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán gave a speech in which he declared “we do not want to become peoples of mixed-race.” On Thursday afternoon, he gave the opening speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Dallas, a bookend to former President Donald Trump’s closing address this weekend at the influential right-wing gathering.

That Orbán took the marquee spot at American conservatism’s most prominent jamboree despite his recent mask-off moment — one that led a longtime Orbán adviser to resign, calling his speech “worthy of Goebbels” — is a testament to his country’s place in the US right’s imagination. Under Orbán, Hungary has become for them something like what the Nordic countries are for some progressives: an idealized model of what they hope America could become. The most important difference is that the Nordic countries are firmly democratic, while Orbán’s Hungary very much is not.

Orbán was careful to reject charges of both racism and authoritarianism in his CPAC speech, mocking such accusations as “fake news” produced by “idiots.” Yet if you listened to his speech carefully, the dark heart of his project was plainly apparent: a conspiratorial belief that “globalists” were driving the West to the brink of cultural suicide, paired with an open acknowledgment that conservatives “cannot fight successfully by liberal means.” The mask was back on, but it was gossamer thin.

The purpose of the speech was simple enough: to tighten the bonds linking Orbánism with the Trumpism that dominates the American right. The Hungarian populist sees the potential in that connection. His closing lines called on conservatives across the Atlantic to “coordinate our troops” in the fight against liberalism, exhorting them to gear up to remove Joe Biden from office (“you have two years to get ready”). The stakes, in his telling, are the very future of our civilization.

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Nevilledog Aug 5 OP
rubbersole Aug 5 #1
Hermit-The-Prog Aug 5 #2
moondust Aug 5 #3
dalton99a Aug 6 #7
UTUSN Aug 6 #4
AntiFascist Aug 6 #5
durablend Aug 6 #6

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 08:05 PM

1. Faux news has a new hero...

Not just Tuckems anymore.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:22 PM

2. The radicalized Republican party wants to destroy democracy. That's a fact.

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2022, 10:28 PM

3. I'll bet ol' Vikky

has some racial mix in his ancestry as many people do especially in Europe. He's probably too scared to look into for fear of what he'll find.

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Response to moondust (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:19 AM

7. Huns, Turks, Iranians, etc

The history of Hungary starts in the 9th century with the arrival of the Magyars in the Carpathian Basin. They spoke, like modern Hungarians, an Uralic language belonging to the Finno-Ugric language group. Their original composition probably included Iranian and Turkish people, while other populations were already present in the territory (Avars, Slavs, Germans). Some of the Hungarian ethnic groups claim to be descendants of ancient Magyars settlers (such as the Orség), others of Huns, Turks or Iranians. We collected and compared the previously published gene frequencies of eight ethnic groups and seven hypothetical ancestral populations, including Uralics, applying a model of admixture. The results, most of which confirm historical hypotheses or the oral tradition, show that only one ethnic group (Orség) highly resembles the Uralic population.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11246468/

Orban was born in Fejér County:

In the early Medieval period Huns and Avars lived in the area. After 586 several nomadic people inhabited in the area, until Hungarians conquered it in the late 9th century. Fejér county was occupied by Ottomans between 1543 and 1688.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fej%C3%A9r_County

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 01:00 AM

4. k&r

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Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 03:04 AM

5. Is the goal of the Far Right to racially purify Texas and the rest of the South? Nazi-like indeed nt

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Response to AntiFascist (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 6, 2022, 10:15 AM

6. And the rest of the country as well

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