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Joinfortmill

(16,548 posts)
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:33 AM Jul 2022

Washington Examiner: Trump asks court for absolute immunity from Jan. 6 lawsuits

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-asks-court-for-absolute-immunity-from-jan-6-lawsuits

'Trump's legal team argues in Wednesday's filing that impeachment is the only means of punishing a president for abuse and that attempts by Democrats and others to sue Trump after he emerged victorious in his impeachment trial are tantamount to "harassment."'

Treasonous Trump is running scared (my words).
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Washington Examiner: Trump asks court for absolute immunity from Jan. 6 lawsuits (Original Post) Joinfortmill Jul 2022 OP
Sounds like his worthless lawyers are at it again Novara Jul 2022 #1
It actually sounds like an admission of culpability...prosecutors can take that as an admission Escurumbele Jul 2022 #8
Yeah, they're just making up the laws as they go PatSeg Jul 2022 #25
With this fascist SC he may get absolute immunity. gab13by13 Jul 2022 #2
Didn't know that. Saw it in Rawstory. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #10
It's OK, gab13by13 Jul 2022 #14
A site I use to evaluate new to me sources is Media Bias Fact Check dot com irisblue Jul 2022 #16
I have my MSN news selections.... SergeStorms Jul 2022 #17
Tie 'em up in the courts... kentuck Jul 2022 #3
Oh, did his lawyers tell him he's no longer president? Oh, my, they forgot? Bad on them..... machoneman Jul 2022 #4
The Washington Examiner - ha! Better Days Ahoy Jul 2022 #5
I read it in Rawstory. Linked to orig. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #11
Yes, I believe it. Better Days Ahoy Jul 2022 #43
Other media are also reporting this. TFG is a dangerous actor with a non-zero chance of success. Eugene Jul 2022 #37
Yeah, yeah, yeah -- totally believe the story is true Better Days Ahoy Jul 2022 #45
They didn't comment on it. Just reported that Team TFG made a filing MissMillie Jul 2022 #40
Understood, MissMillie. Not an obtuse comment on the veracity of the story Better Days Ahoy Jul 2022 #44
I think the 25th Amendment would argue there isn't ONLY ToxMarz Jul 2022 #6
But Trump isn't the president anymore PJMcK Jul 2022 #7
Best three words for him. calimary Jul 2022 #24
Mango Mussolini doesn't remember he didn't take a 2nd Oath of Office... Justice matters. Jul 2022 #29
Does he ever shut up and go away malaise Jul 2022 #9
What a totally stupid legal idea Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #12
He is a raving lunatic malaise Jul 2022 #23
L'etat, c'est moi. kentuck Jul 2022 #13
Honestly folks, gab13by13 Jul 2022 #15
Are we suing him? wryter2000 Jul 2022 #18
I think some members and families of the Capitol Police are suing him for damages from the violence Botany Jul 2022 #19
Thanks wryter2000 Jul 2022 #33
Oh my jmowreader Jul 2022 #20
Reading the Examiner is a waste of limited epigram time. jaxexpat Jul 2022 #21
Didn't this.. Snackshack Jul 2022 #22
I would take the covid deaths off the list karynnj Jul 2022 #32
He specifically lied about it. Snackshack Jul 2022 #41
Rejected in District Court, now trying the DC Circuit Court of Appeals. Eugene Jul 2022 #36
Trump doesn't have the best lawyers anymore. Kablooie Jul 2022 #26
They're like coffee boys not even getting paid... n/t Justice matters. Jul 2022 #30
Flop Sweater Gonna Flop Sweat Beetwasher. Jul 2022 #27
Does he really think he's the president? Warpy Jul 2022 #28
Trump probably want the US Treasury to pay off his loans coming due. Turbineguy Jul 2022 #31
Probably So ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #34
So the orange anus is recruiting lawyers from grammar school playgrounds now? Brother Buzz Jul 2022 #35
DU legal experts: Is this an appropriate analogy? Aristus Jul 2022 #38
I want a rainbow unicorn. William769 Jul 2022 #39
Didn't Bill Clinton claim this too? Didn't seem to work. Angleae Jul 2022 #42
just another delay tactic. no one believes any of this, including his lawyers Takket Jul 2022 #46

Novara

(6,115 posts)
1. Sounds like his worthless lawyers are at it again
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:38 AM
Jul 2022

Yeah, no. What part of no one is above the law don't you understand?

Escurumbele

(3,633 posts)
8. It actually sounds like an admission of culpability...prosecutors can take that as an admission
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:09 AM
Jul 2022

of guilt when the prosecute the SOB.

PatSeg

(49,751 posts)
25. Yeah, they're just making up the laws as they go
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:20 AM
Jul 2022

In what law book did they find that gem? Probably the one in Trump's dreams.

gab13by13

(25,300 posts)
2. With this fascist SC he may get absolute immunity.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:43 AM
Jul 2022

I never, ever, click on the Washington Examiner, it's like watching Fox News.

irisblue

(34,355 posts)
16. A site I use to evaluate new to me sources is Media Bias Fact Check dot com
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:30 AM
Jul 2022

On the Washington Examiner itself
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/

snip-"RIGHT BIAS
These media sources are moderate to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports, and omit information reporting that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources.

Overall, we rate the Washington Examiner Right Biased based on editorial positions that almost exclusively favor the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks."

snip-" Funded by / Ownership
The Washington Examiner is owned by Clarity Media Group, owned by Philip Anschutz, an American billionaire entrepreneur who describes himself as a “conservative Christian.” Anschutz is also the owner of the right-leaning Weekly Standard and has donated millions of dollars to right-leaning causes, including anti-LGBT groups, such as the Family Research Council, which has been labeled a hate group. The Washington Examiner is funded through an advertising and subscription model."

SergeStorms

(19,312 posts)
17. I have my MSN news selections....
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:38 AM
Jul 2022

completely ignore any stories from the Examiner. It's much more than "right biased". It's a filthy reich-wing propaganda rag.

Better Days Ahoy

(706 posts)
5. The Washington Examiner - ha!
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:50 AM
Jul 2022

Why post anything they report? They're just another publicity outlet for Trumpster. Let news about the orange idiot's latest frivolous lawsuits "die in darkness".

Better Days Ahoy

(706 posts)
45. Yeah, yeah, yeah -- totally believe the story is true
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 10:56 AM
Jul 2022

Just a comment that I was surprised the Examiner deigned to report on another source's anti-TFG story. I got it the first time. Not a comprehension issue ....

MissMillie

(38,986 posts)
40. They didn't comment on it. Just reported that Team TFG made a filing
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:38 AM
Jul 2022

and actually, I enjoy the comic relief about TFG's nonsense suits. I didn't see the Raw Story report on it.

I agree that more often than not the Washington Examiner's reporting is crap. But this is just a paragraph or two about the filing.

I absolutely WOULD like a link to the filing. That's even more comic relief.

Better Days Ahoy

(706 posts)
44. Understood, MissMillie. Not an obtuse comment on the veracity of the story
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 10:53 AM
Jul 2022

Simply a reaction that The Washington Examiner gave the story any space in its publication at all. Guess I'll need to be a tad more clear in my comments.

ToxMarz

(2,252 posts)
6. I think the 25th Amendment would argue there isn't ONLY
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:54 AM
Jul 2022

one means for dealing with egregious Presidents.

Justice matters.

(7,559 posts)
29. Mango Mussolini doesn't remember he didn't take a 2nd Oath of Office...
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:36 AM
Jul 2022

Not that the 1st one he took ever mattered to him.

Farmer-Rick

(11,493 posts)
12. What a totally stupid legal idea
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:16 AM
Jul 2022

So, if TFG got away with murdering women at night and the evidence only came out after he lost the election, no one could prosecute him?

But with idiots like Thomas on the Supremely Religious Court, it just might be our new law.

malaise

(278,415 posts)
23. He is a raving lunatic
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:01 AM
Jul 2022

He actually believes he is king and no laws apply.
Fuck this fascist and lock him up!

gab13by13

(25,300 posts)
15. Honestly folks,
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:29 AM
Jul 2022

we have a court that just overturned settled law, would it surprise anyone if this fascist SC gave trump absolute immunity?

We need a bigger push to add 4 more justices, put in term limits, whatever. This court won't stop with abortion.

Botany

(72,581 posts)
19. I think some members and families of the Capitol Police are suing him for damages from the violence
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 08:16 AM
Jul 2022

... that happened during the 1/6/21 attempted coup.





jmowreader

(51,552 posts)
20. Oh my
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 08:25 AM
Jul 2022

Absolute immunity is immunity from criminal prosecution or civil suit for actions taken within the scope of their official duties.

Trump has a very hard row to hoe if he wants to try to convince a court that trying to overthrow the US Government and kill government officials because he didn’t like the way the election turned out was part of his official duties.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
21. Reading the Examiner is a waste of limited epigram time.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 08:58 AM
Jul 2022

Their talent is to take raw sewage and turn it into misinformation.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
22. Didn't this..
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:01 AM
Jul 2022

“Absolute immunity” hogwash get shot down by a judge already?

The DOJ does not have a choice has to come down as hard on DT as the law allows. This cannot continue or we will end up with someone who really does have billions and is even more maniacal then DT thinking they are above the law and can do as they please….(musk)…

Plus the threats DT is making must be answered. No one should be allowed to do that without a response by the United States. Hopefully there will be a couple of charges added after charges for:

Sedition.
Treason.
The deaths of over 1 million Americans to COVID.
Taking Top Secret material.
Threatening violence….

karynnj

(59,989 posts)
32. I would take the covid deaths off the list
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 10:50 AM
Jul 2022

I agree he, though incompetence and a view that ignoring it would be politically better for him, very likey made things worse. Certainly his super spreaders were a terrible idea. However, many countries around the world including Italy and England were hit hard at the begining. Not to mention, many states that did the worst at the beginning, like NY and NJ, were blue. It 8s true that Washington state, which was the first hit, immediately acted following the science and likely saved lives.

The precedent of charging a President with something where the correct solution was not immediately known is scary.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
41. He specifically lied about it.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 03:27 PM
Jul 2022

He did so to Bob Woodward on tape. He knew it was a very deadly disease but he wanted to “play it down” so he lied said it was no worse then flu or a hoax. Not only that DT is been identified as one of the biggest misinformation sources about COVID.

He did all he could to slow down or stop the response. He tried to stop testing. Wanted a cruise ship to not dock…all of this while president a job he took an Oath for.

No- he should be charge for the actions he took because it cost Americans their lives.

Eugene

(62,729 posts)
36. Rejected in District Court, now trying the DC Circuit Court of Appeals.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:25 AM
Jul 2022
Trump is asking an appeals court to give him immunity from civil lawsuits linked to the January 6 Capitol riot (Business Insider)

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-asking-appeals-court-him-053711929.html

Trump claims he has “absolute immunity” from Jan. 6 lawsuits in new court filing (Salon)

Trump is appealing a February ruling by U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta that the former president can be sued for damages stemming from the Jan. 6 attack, rejecting Trump's claim of immunity because his actions that day were "plausibly words of incitement not protected by the First Amendment" or presidential immunity.

Trump's lawyers on Wednesday asked the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals to reverse the ruling, again arguing that Trump has "absolutely presidential immunity."


https://www.salon.com/2022/07/28/claims-he-has-absolute-immunity-from-jan-6-in-new-filing/

Kablooie

(18,787 posts)
26. Trump doesn't have the best lawyers anymore.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:26 AM
Jul 2022

They probably take their litigation strategy from Trump himself.
Whatever he wants they do.

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
28. Does he really think he's the president?
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:36 AM
Jul 2022

Does he really think a treason charge is going to go away?

He's running scared. When he's finally cornered, he's going to go full on mobster and start ordering hits. He's a rank amateur, so I hope the FBI will have guys in place for the hiring.

Oh, and I suppose his lawyers forgot that the Republicans changed the rules so sitting presidents can be sued as part of their "git Clinton" strategy. Oops.

Aristus

(68,515 posts)
38. DU legal experts: Is this an appropriate analogy?
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:35 AM
Jul 2022

A Wisconsin resident commits murder, then flees to Minnesota, where he establishes residency through, among other things, postal address change and voter registration. He's eventually arrested, but claims immunity from prosecution because he's no longer a Wisconsin resident.

Is this basically what Trump is trying to do?

William769

(55,842 posts)
39. I want a rainbow unicorn.
Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:36 AM
Jul 2022

As my daddy used to say you can whish in one hand and sh*t in the other & see which one fills up first.

Bye Bye baby.

Takket

(22,611 posts)
46. just another delay tactic. no one believes any of this, including his lawyers
Sat Jul 30, 2022, 11:04 AM
Jul 2022

their only goal is to continually motion and appeal so that he literally lives out the rest of his natural life before he can be convicted of anything. So far, so good on that strategy.

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