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Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:33 AM

Washington Examiner: Trump asks court for absolute immunity from Jan. 6 lawsuits

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-asks-court-for-absolute-immunity-from-jan-6-lawsuits

'Trump's legal team argues in Wednesday's filing that impeachment is the only means of punishing a president for abuse and that attempts by Democrats and others to sue Trump after he emerged victorious in his impeachment trial are tantamount to "harassment."'

Treasonous Trump is running scared (my words).

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Reply Washington Examiner: Trump asks court for absolute immunity from Jan. 6 lawsuits (Original post)
Joinfortmill Jul 2022 OP
Novara Jul 2022 #1
Escurumbele Jul 2022 #8
PatSeg Jul 2022 #25
gab13by13 Jul 2022 #2
Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #10
gab13by13 Jul 2022 #14
irisblue Jul 2022 #16
SergeStorms Jul 2022 #17
kentuck Jul 2022 #3
machoneman Jul 2022 #4
Better Days Ahoy Jul 2022 #5
Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #11
Better Days Ahoy Jul 2022 #43
Eugene Jul 2022 #37
Better Days Ahoy Jul 2022 #45
MissMillie Jul 2022 #40
Better Days Ahoy Jul 2022 #44
ToxMarz Jul 2022 #6
PJMcK Jul 2022 #7
calimary Jul 2022 #24
Justice matters. Jul 2022 #29
malaise Jul 2022 #9
Farmer-Rick Jul 2022 #12
malaise Jul 2022 #23
kentuck Jul 2022 #13
gab13by13 Jul 2022 #15
wryter2000 Jul 2022 #18
Botany Jul 2022 #19
wryter2000 Jul 2022 #33
jmowreader Jul 2022 #20
jaxexpat Jul 2022 #21
Snackshack Jul 2022 #22
karynnj Jul 2022 #32
Snackshack Jul 2022 #41
Eugene Jul 2022 #36
Kablooie Jul 2022 #26
Justice matters. Jul 2022 #30
Beetwasher. Jul 2022 #27
Warpy Jul 2022 #28
Turbineguy Jul 2022 #31
ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #34
Brother Buzz Jul 2022 #35
Aristus Jul 2022 #38
William769 Jul 2022 #39
Angleae Jul 2022 #42
Takket Jul 2022 #46

Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:38 AM

1. Sounds like his worthless lawyers are at it again

Yeah, no. What part of no one is above the law don't you understand?

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Response to Novara (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:09 AM

8. It actually sounds like an admission of culpability...prosecutors can take that as an admission

of guilt when the prosecute the SOB.

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Response to Novara (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:20 AM

25. Yeah, they're just making up the laws as they go

In what law book did they find that gem? Probably the one in Trump's dreams.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:43 AM

2. With this fascist SC he may get absolute immunity.

I never, ever, click on the Washington Examiner, it's like watching Fox News.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:14 AM

10. Didn't know that. Saw it in Rawstory.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:26 AM

14. It's OK,

Sometimes you have to cite from a rag to get out the story.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:30 AM

16. A site I use to evaluate new to me sources is Media Bias Fact Check dot com

On the Washington Examiner itself
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/

snip-"RIGHT BIAS
These media sources are moderate to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports, and omit information reporting that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources.

Overall, we rate the Washington Examiner Right Biased based on editorial positions that almost exclusively favor the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks."

snip-" Funded by / Ownership
The Washington Examiner is owned by Clarity Media Group, owned by Philip Anschutz, an American billionaire entrepreneur who describes himself as a “conservative Christian.” Anschutz is also the owner of the right-leaning Weekly Standard and has donated millions of dollars to right-leaning causes, including anti-LGBT groups, such as the Family Research Council, which has been labeled a hate group. The Washington Examiner is funded through an advertising and subscription model."

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Response to irisblue (Reply #16)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:38 AM

17. I have my MSN news selections....

completely ignore any stories from the Examiner. It's much more than "right biased". It's a filthy reich-wing propaganda rag.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:47 AM

3. Tie 'em up in the courts...

It's always worked before.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:48 AM

4. Oh, did his lawyers tell him he's no longer president? Oh, my, they forgot? Bad on them.....

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:50 AM

5. The Washington Examiner - ha!

Why post anything they report? They're just another publicity outlet for Trumpster. Let news about the orange idiot's latest frivolous lawsuits "die in darkness".

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Response to Better Days Ahoy (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:15 AM

11. I read it in Rawstory. Linked to orig.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 29, 2022, 01:51 PM

43. Yes, I believe it.

Just my reaction to this right-wing rag of a newspaper. Happy to see it.

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Response to Better Days Ahoy (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:32 AM

37. Other media are also reporting this. TFG is a dangerous actor with a non-zero chance of success.

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Response to Eugene (Reply #37)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 10:56 AM

45. Yeah, yeah, yeah -- totally believe the story is true

Just a comment that I was surprised the Examiner deigned to report on another source's anti-TFG story. I got it the first time. Not a comprehension issue ....

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Response to Better Days Ahoy (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:38 AM

40. They didn't comment on it. Just reported that Team TFG made a filing

and actually, I enjoy the comic relief about TFG's nonsense suits. I didn't see the Raw Story report on it.

I agree that more often than not the Washington Examiner's reporting is crap. But this is just a paragraph or two about the filing.

I absolutely WOULD like a link to the filing. That's even more comic relief.

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Response to MissMillie (Reply #40)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 10:53 AM

44. Understood, MissMillie. Not an obtuse comment on the veracity of the story

Simply a reaction that The Washington Examiner gave the story any space in its publication at all. Guess I'll need to be a tad more clear in my comments.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 06:54 AM

6. I think the 25th Amendment would argue there isn't ONLY

one means for dealing with egregious Presidents.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:08 AM

7. But Trump isn't the president anymore

He's a private citizen.

Lock him up.

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:12 AM

24. Best three words for him.

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:36 AM

29. Mango Mussolini doesn't remember he didn't take a 2nd Oath of Office...

Not that the 1st one he took ever mattered to him.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:10 AM

9. Does he ever shut up and go away

Lock him up!

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:16 AM

12. What a totally stupid legal idea

So, if TFG got away with murdering women at night and the evidence only came out after he lost the election, no one could prosecute him?

But with idiots like Thomas on the Supremely Religious Court, it just might be our new law.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:01 AM

23. He is a raving lunatic

He actually believes he is king and no laws apply.
Fuck this fascist and lock him up!

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:18 AM

13. L'etat, c'est moi.

"I am the state".

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 07:29 AM

15. Honestly folks,

we have a court that just overturned settled law, would it surprise anyone if this fascist SC gave trump absolute immunity?

We need a bigger push to add 4 more justices, put in term limits, whatever. This court won't stop with abortion.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 08:08 AM

18. Are we suing him?

Charging him with crimes isn’t suing him.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 08:16 AM

19. I think some members and families of the Capitol Police are suing him for damages from the violence

... that happened during the 1/6/21 attempted coup.





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Response to Botany (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 10:54 AM

33. Thanks

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 08:25 AM

20. Oh my

Absolute immunity is immunity from criminal prosecution or civil suit for actions taken within the scope of their official duties.

Trump has a very hard row to hoe if he wants to try to convince a court that trying to overthrow the US Government and kill government officials because he didn’t like the way the election turned out was part of his official duties.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 08:58 AM

21. Reading the Examiner is a waste of limited epigram time.

Their talent is to take raw sewage and turn it into misinformation.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:01 AM

22. Didn't this..

“Absolute immunity” hogwash get shot down by a judge already?

The DOJ does not have a choice has to come down as hard on DT as the law allows. This cannot continue or we will end up with someone who really does have billions and is even more maniacal then DT thinking they are above the law and can do as they please….(musk)…

Plus the threats DT is making must be answered. No one should be allowed to do that without a response by the United States. Hopefully there will be a couple of charges added after charges for:

Sedition.
Treason.
The deaths of over 1 million Americans to COVID.
Taking Top Secret material.
Threatening violence….

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Response to Snackshack (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 10:50 AM

32. I would take the covid deaths off the list

I agree he, though incompetence and a view that ignoring it would be politically better for him, very likey made things worse. Certainly his super spreaders were a terrible idea. However, many countries around the world including Italy and England were hit hard at the begining. Not to mention, many states that did the worst at the beginning, like NY and NJ, were blue. It 8s true that Washington state, which was the first hit, immediately acted following the science and likely saved lives.

The precedent of charging a President with something where the correct solution was not immediately known is scary.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 03:27 PM

41. He specifically lied about it.

He did so to Bob Woodward on tape. He knew it was a very deadly disease but he wanted to “play it down” so he lied said it was no worse then flu or a hoax. Not only that DT is been identified as one of the biggest misinformation sources about COVID.

He did all he could to slow down or stop the response. He tried to stop testing. Wanted a cruise ship to not dock…all of this while president a job he took an Oath for.

No- he should be charge for the actions he took because it cost Americans their lives.

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Response to Snackshack (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:25 AM

36. Rejected in District Court, now trying the DC Circuit Court of Appeals.

Trump is asking an appeals court to give him immunity from civil lawsuits linked to the January 6 Capitol riot (Business Insider)

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-asking-appeals-court-him-053711929.html

Trump claims he has “absolute immunity” from Jan. 6 lawsuits in new court filing (Salon)

Trump is appealing a February ruling by U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta that the former president can be sued for damages stemming from the Jan. 6 attack, rejecting Trump's claim of immunity because his actions that day were "plausibly words of incitement not protected by the First Amendment" or presidential immunity.

Trump's lawyers on Wednesday asked the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals to reverse the ruling, again arguing that Trump has "absolutely presidential immunity."


https://www.salon.com/2022/07/28/claims-he-has-absolute-immunity-from-jan-6-in-new-filing/

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:26 AM

26. Trump doesn't have the best lawyers anymore.

They probably take their litigation strategy from Trump himself.
Whatever he wants they do.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #26)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:40 AM

30. They're like coffee boys not even getting paid... n/t

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:28 AM

27. Flop Sweater Gonna Flop Sweat

I love the smell of orange desperation with my morning coffee.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 09:36 AM

28. Does he really think he's the president?

Does he really think a treason charge is going to go away?

He's running scared. When he's finally cornered, he's going to go full on mobster and start ordering hits. He's a rank amateur, so I hope the FBI will have guys in place for the hiring.

Oh, and I suppose his lawyers forgot that the Republicans changed the rules so sitting presidents can be sued as part of their "git Clinton" strategy. Oops.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 10:35 AM

31. Trump probably want the US Treasury to pay off his loans coming due.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #31)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:17 AM

34. Probably So

He'd like them to pay off the principal on that mountain of term debt too.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:21 AM

35. So the orange anus is recruiting lawyers from grammar school playgrounds now?

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:35 AM

38. DU legal experts: Is this an appropriate analogy?

A Wisconsin resident commits murder, then flees to Minnesota, where he establishes residency through, among other things, postal address change and voter registration. He's eventually arrested, but claims immunity from prosecution because he's no longer a Wisconsin resident.

Is this basically what Trump is trying to do?

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 11:36 AM

39. I want a rainbow unicorn.

As my daddy used to say you can whish in one hand and sh*t in the other & see which one fills up first.

Bye Bye baby.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Thu Jul 28, 2022, 04:20 PM

42. Didn't Bill Clinton claim this too? Didn't seem to work.

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Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2022, 11:04 AM

46. just another delay tactic. no one believes any of this, including his lawyers

their only goal is to continually motion and appeal so that he literally lives out the rest of his natural life before he can be convicted of anything. So far, so good on that strategy.

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