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Alito Says Abortion Has Nothing To Do With Gender EqualityBut History Says Otherwise
7/22/2022 by Shoshanna Ehrlich
In Dobbs v. Jackson, Alito claims preventing abortion does not evince a discriminatory animus against women. History makes clear: Hes wrong.

In one fell swoop, Justice Alitos majority opinion in Dobbs v. Jackson Womens Health Organization eviscerated Roes privacy anchoring of the right to abortion. It also trashed the Courts subsequent recognition in Planned Parenthood v. Casey that control over ones reproduction is inextricably linked to gender equality. Roes concept of liberty in defining the capacity of women to act in society, and to make reproductive decisions, according to Alito, has liberated them to participate equally in the social and economic life of the Nation. Without so much as a nod to Casey, Alito blithely disconnects the dots. In support of this decoupling, he relies upon the Courts 1993 conclusion in Bray v. Alexandria Womens Health Clinic that clinic protests by Operation Rescue did not deprive those seeking abortion services of their civil rights because opposition to abortion does not evince a discriminatory animus against women. In doing so, Alito ignores the deeply gendered origins of the nations criminal abortion laws. A considerable irony is at work in this omission given his pointed criticism that the Roe Courts survey of abortion history ranged from the constitutionally irrelevant to the plainly incorrect.
The nations criminal abortion laws that were deemed unconstitutional in Roe were the product of a 19th-century campaign by elite physicians who sought to replace the common law quickening rule, which permitted abortion up until the time of fetal movement, with a strict prohibitory regime subject to a narrow life-saving exception. According to historian James Mohr in his classic monograph on the subject, their efforts proved to be the single most important factor in altering the legal policies towards abortion in this country. As a result, by the turn of the century, the quickening rule had been consigned to the historic dustbin, in favor of a near absolute ban on abortion. Animated by a pervasive fear that the mid-19th-century womans rights movement was encouraging the better sort of wife to abandon her divinely-inscribed duty to bear children, the physicians campaign was saturated with a deep gendered paternalism.
Sounding the alarm, Dr. Horatio Storer, the Boston-born and educated leader of the crusade, urgently warned that those who become unmindful of the course marked out for her by Providence by giving into desire while avoiding the pains and responsibilities of maternity would no longer merit the respect of a virtuous husband, and could expect to sink into old age like a withered tree stripped of its foliage, with the stain of blood upon her soul. The physicians crusade can be understood as a masculinist project aimed at repairing the damage they believed had been wrought by feminist agitators who foolishly believed that woman was born for higher and nobler purposes than the propagation of the species. To this end, Storer exhorted his colleagues to engage in a bold and manly effort against the crime of abortion which he claimed interfered with all elements of domestic happiness.
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This history upends Alitos claim in Dobbs that the goal of preventing abortion does not evince a discriminatory animus against women. It also makes a mockery of his assertion that the Roe Court was guilty of a plainly incorrect reading of history.
https://msmagazine.com/2022/07/22/alito-abortion-bans-history-discrimination-women-gender/


niyad
(122,898 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(32,782 posts)ever did this.
Starts with voting, but so much more we can do that is legal and nonviolent.
niyad
(122,898 posts)Diamond_Dog
(36,394 posts)niyad
(122,898 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(3,024 posts)He is almost man-splaining his legal theories, sorry Dude they are not that complex !
Novara
(6,115 posts)In fact, there are a ton of current studies that show women with children make less money and are promoted far less than men and than women without children. Mothers are the slowest group to succeed in the working world behind white men, black men, and childfree women.
Keeping women pregnant takes them out of the workforce and keeps them on an uneven footing throughout their careers. Because if they don't advance when they are younger, by the time they have 20 years of experience and they're still on the lower rungs of the ladder, they're much less likely to go much higher.
WOMEN TWO THIRDS LESS LIKELY THAN MEN TO GET PROMOTED AT WORK AFTER HAVING CHILDREN
A report published by the universities of Bristol and Essex for the Government Equalities Office found that just 27.8 per cent of women were in full-time or self-employed work three years after childbirth, compared to 90 per cent of new fathers.
The data also showed that women who did return to work after becoming a parent were two thirds less likely to get promoted in the five years after the child was born compared to their male counterparts with 26 per cent of fathers receiving promotions or moving to a better job compared to 13 per cent of mothers.
Furthermore, 17 per cent of women were found to have left employment completely in the five years following childbirth, compared to four per cent of men.
The researchers conducting the report looked at how childbirth affects employment and career progression across a sample group of more than 3,500 new parents.
More in the link.
THIS IS WHY THEY DO THIS SHIT, folks. They are afraid of the competition.
niyad
(122,898 posts)Thanks in advance.

Baitball Blogger
(49,581 posts)Hence, not Supreme Court material.
Silent3
(15,909 posts)Alito wants the end results he wants, and will evoke any rationalization that's convenient no matter how flimsy. Whether he buys the shit he's selling is harder to determine, but in the end it's also irrelevant to the results we get.
Hekate
(96,877 posts)
niyad
(122,898 posts)SharonAnn
(13,994 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(160,410 posts)Alito's only support for his position was a witch hunter who believed in marital rape. The professor cited a number of real historians who disagreed with Alito. I did not copy the cites on the zoom CLE and now wish that I had
niyad
(122,898 posts)crickets
(26,158 posts)niyad
(122,898 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(160,410 posts)Alito's only support for his opinion was a witch hunter who believed in/advocated for marital rape. Here is some authority that Alito was too stupid to find or use
Link to tweet
https://www.washingtonpost.com/made-by-history/2022/07/19/1792-case-reveals-that-key-founders-saw-abortion-private-matter/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjM4MjMyODIzIiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY1ODU2MjA5NSwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY1OTc3MTY5NSwiaWF0IjoxNjU4NTYyMDk1LCJqdGkiOiI0MDZjNjg4ZC1hODI2LTQ0ZWMtOGQ2Zi0zNDAwMjI3NDhiNDAiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vbWFkZS1ieS1oaXN0b3J5LzIwMjIvMDcvMTkvMTc5Mi1jYXNlLXJldmVhbHMtdGhhdC1rZXktZm91bmRlcnMtc2F3LWFib3J0aW9uLXByaXZhdGUtbWF0dGVyLyJ9.3Oz4ziKkJBN2tEYVnpVZn6nAAc14004UAhTbvAbyhAM
Alitos evidence that abortion was always considered a criminal act, and thus something the Constitution should not protect, consisted of a single criminal case that was prosecuted in 1652 in the (Catholic) colony of Maryland. He then jumped ahead to laws that states enacted, mostly in the mid-to-late-19th century, to criminalize abortion. This cursory survey of abortion in early America was hardly complete, especially because it ignored the history of abortion in the years in which the Constitution was drafted and ratified.....
Therefore, the more historically accurate conclusion is Justice Harry A. Blackmuns majority opinion in Roe v. Wade (1973), that at the time of the adoption of our Constitution, and throughout the majority of the 19th century, abortion was viewed with less disfavor than under most American statutes currently in effect. Phrasing it another way, a woman enjoyed a substantially broader right to terminate a pregnancy than she does in most States today.
Though Marshalls notes on Commonwealth v. Randolph are extensive, this episode is poorly documented in the county court records, and, thus, no formal case law was generated. Regardless, the episode begs examination as it involved key Founders who occupied vastly different positions on the political spectrum, both nationally and in Virginia. The Federalist Marshall believed in a strong national government. Jefferson mostly supported a decentralized system. Henry was a populist. Yet all three tacitly agreed that abortion in this case was a private matter, not a criminal act worthy of further investigation and prosecution. In a remarkable coda, Nancy went on to marry Gouverneur Morris of New York, an influential signer of the Constitution, who was well aware of her backstory.
If anything, the saga demonstrates that the concept of abortion as a private matter was deeply rooted in the minds of our nations Founders. As Americans consider their next move on the abortion issue at the state level, they should be mindful of the precedents followed by these early giants of our republic.
niyad
(122,898 posts)posting it as its own OP for greater visibility, and so we can rec it?
spanone
(138,529 posts)K&R
niyad
(122,898 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(160,410 posts)Again, Alito is a partisan hack who does not know history. Alito cited a witch hunter who was an advocate for marital rape as his authority to overturn Roe. Alito is both a partisan hack/bad lawyer and a bad historian
Link to tweet
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/06/24/dobbs-decision-looks-history-rescind-roe/
Writing for the majority in Dobbs, Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. argues that Roe disrupted an unbroken tradition of prohibiting abortion on pain of criminal punishment that had persisted from the earliest days of the common law until 1973. But the real picture is far blurrier and even once states began passing stricter abortion laws between the 1820s and 1880s, public sentiment did not follow. Few abortion providers were convicted under the new laws, indicating that most Americans didnt see abortion as a crime.
Anglo-American common law initially guided the U.S. on abortion. Under common law, abortion was only punishable after quickening, defined as the moment the mother first felt fetal movement typically between 16 to 22 weeks of gestation.
Alito contends, however, that pre-quickened abortions were always strongly condemned, as shown by the wave of statutes that states passed in the 19th century criminalizing abortion for the entire pregnancy. Yet, over a third of the states actually retained the imprint of quickening in these laws, assigning a distinctly lesser penalty for abortions that took place before quickening.
Even more importantly, there is scant evidence of public concern about fetal personhood or moral opprobrium prompting those new state laws in the 19th century, as Alito claims in Dobbs. In fact, there appears to have been no public pressure at all for tougher laws before 1845. All the statutes passed before 1845 were added during routine revisions of state criminal codes, probably meaning that most were enacted without actual debate.