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Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:19 PM

****1/6 Committee Hearings Day 7, thread FOUR****

(THREAD 3 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216916390)


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Reply ****1/6 Committee Hearings Day 7, thread FOUR**** (Original post)
BumRushDaShow Jul 12 OP
NewHendoLib Jul 12 #1
IcyPeas Jul 12 #3
Novara Jul 12 #5
SMC22307 Jul 12 #34
crickets Jul 12 #23
Johnny2X2X Jul 12 #71
NJCher Jul 12 #113
Totally Tunsie Jul 12 #135
crickets Jul 12 #137
NJCher Jul 12 #141
BumRushDaShow Jul 12 #2
uponit7771 Jul 12 #4
regnaD kciN Jul 12 #13
uponit7771 Jul 12 #149
live love laugh Jul 12 #6
BumRushDaShow Jul 12 #10
live love laugh Jul 12 #54
BumRushDaShow Jul 12 #65
SMC22307 Jul 12 #40
Totally Tunsie Jul 12 #81
BumRushDaShow Jul 12 #7
SMC22307 Jul 12 #15
NJCher Jul 12 #146
crickets Jul 12 #33
BumRushDaShow Jul 12 #51
livetohike Jul 12 #8
nolabear Jul 12 #9
Scrivener7 Jul 12 #14
Hermit-The-Prog Jul 12 #18
nolabear Jul 12 #26
Scrivener7 Jul 12 #11
SheltieLover Jul 12 #31
Lars39 Jul 12 #12
SMC22307 Jul 12 #47
SergeStorms Jul 12 #133
Lars39 Jul 12 #16
livetohike Jul 12 #17
Novara Jul 12 #19
crickets Jul 12 #145
Lars39 Jul 12 #20
nolabear Jul 12 #21
NewHendoLib Jul 12 #22
Scrivener7 Jul 12 #25
NewHendoLib Jul 12 #35
SheltieLover Jul 12 #38
3catwoman3 Jul 12 #120
uponit7771 Jul 12 #151
Lars39 Jul 12 #24
Novara Jul 12 #27
livetohike Jul 12 #28
BumRushDaShow Jul 12 #29
catbyte Jul 12 #30
nolabear Jul 12 #32
Scrivener7 Jul 12 #36
livetohike Jul 12 #42
Scrivener7 Jul 12 #48
livetohike Jul 12 #55
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uponit7771 Jul 12 #152
Lars39 Jul 12 #37
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spooky3 Jul 12 #53
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BumRushDaShow Jul 12 #44
SheltieLover Jul 12 #50
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SheltieLover Jul 12 #90
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SheltieLover Jul 12 #139
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crickets Jul 12 #76
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irisblue Jul 12 #45
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blogslug Jul 12 #56
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ancianita Jul 12 #59
irisblue Jul 12 #106
ancianita Jul 12 #140
livetohike Jul 12 #46
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NewHendoLib Jul 12 #49
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IcyPeas Jul 12 #159
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livetohike Jul 12 #60
ArnoldLayne Jul 12 #61
Novara Jul 12 #63
Botany Jul 12 #67
ancianita Jul 12 #82
Traildogbob Jul 12 #68
Novara Jul 12 #69
SheltieLover Jul 12 #74
Traildogbob Jul 12 #102
SheltieLover Jul 12 #138
uponit7771 Jul 12 #154
Traildogbob Jul 12 #158
SMC22307 Jul 12 #70
crickets Jul 12 #89
BumRushDaShow Jul 12 #72
livetohike Jul 12 #75
IcyPeas Jul 12 #78
SheltieLover Jul 12 #84
Novara Jul 12 #83
Totally Tunsie Jul 12 #94
SMC22307 Jul 12 #98
Novara Jul 12 #112
livetohike Jul 12 #86
llmart Jul 12 #87
Mersky Jul 12 #88
BumRushDaShow Jul 12 #91
ancianita Jul 12 #92
Mersky Jul 12 #100
ancianita Jul 12 #129
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Novara Jul 12 #95
Montauk6 Jul 12 #96
love_katz Jul 13 #162
livetohike Jul 12 #97
RocRizzo55 Jul 12 #101
mainer Jul 12 #103
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crickets Jul 12 #107
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Jirel Jul 12 #121
Mersky Jul 12 #123
crickets Jul 12 #131
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livetohike Jul 12 #110
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irisblue Jul 12 #114
livetohike Jul 12 #117
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LaMouffette Jul 12 #126
Cha Jul 12 #144
wryter2000 Jul 12 #119
BumRushDaShow Jul 12 #122
crickets Jul 12 #134
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Totally Tunsie Jul 12 #125
Scrivener7 Jul 12 #127
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ancianita Jul 12 #132
crickets Jul 12 #136
livetohike Jul 12 #143
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AngryOldDem Jul 12 #148
uponit7771 Jul 12 #155
Marthe48 Jul 12 #156
electric_blue68 Jul 12 #161

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:20 PM

1. This former Oath Keeper needs protection

Very courageous, and a rare example of someone who can leave a cult

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Response to NewHendoLib (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:22 PM

3. yes, they have guts coming forward.

he said he actually had to "resign".

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:24 PM

5. They've been charged with seditious conspiracy

I'm thinking they may not have volunteered to testify unless it helps their sentences.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:32 PM

34. Van Tatenhove made the decision to resign, I think he said, over a Holocaust-denying discussion...

at a grocery store in ?Montana.

Damn, he's using "armed insurrection" and slamming Elmer Stewart Rhodes. Insurrection Act was KEY to this whole thing and Rhodes was ready to act. Paramilitary force. Firearms. Explosives. Violence against political leaders.

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Response to NewHendoLib (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:29 PM

23. It was the Holocaust Denial that finally made him leave. Good for him. nt

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Response to crickets (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:40 PM

71. This is a product of the Right's expert framing of racism the last couple decades

They've become experts with using code words so they technically aren't saying racist things. So you get these people into these groups, start talking about wokism, and inner cities, etc etc Next thing you know, you're hanging out with full on Neo Nazis denying the holocaust.

The Right has flirted with the Far Right for so long, their messages are now indistinguishable. It's all about white supremacy.

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Response to NewHendoLib (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:54 PM

113. OK, but...

I was wondering who the woman behind Ayres was--the woman in the light blue suit. I wondered because she had a sneer on her face as Ayres spoke. As I watched her, I said to myself who the hell is this?

Later she was identified by one of the committee members as being Ayres' wife.

I don't know how to account for that sneer. Body language belies words.

on edit: when I wrote this post, I had not seen these posts, which also refer to the sneer.

posts 6, 10, 54, 65, 40, 81

My viewing is a little behind everyone else's because I keep getting up for iced coffee.

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Response to NJCher (Reply #113)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:06 PM

135. I noticed the sneer most often as her husband spoke of his love of family.

Didn't look as though she was buying it, which makes me think it is newly donned for convenience sake.

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Response to Totally Tunsie (Reply #135)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:08 PM

137. Given Ayres said he lost his job and had to sell their house,

it's a good bet the marriage has taken some serious hits lately.

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Response to Totally Tunsie (Reply #135)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:11 PM

141. I think you would be right

I just edited my post above to mention the posts downthread. I think you were the only one in that group of posts who picked up on it, unless one takes live..love's post as sarcasm, which is probably was.

Either that or blue-suited wifey does not share her husband's "conversion," something I doubt since they lost their house, etc.

Such duplicity.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:21 PM

2. Currently hearing questions answered by former Oathkeeper spokesman Jason Van Tatenrove

and he has been describing the aims of the Oathkeepers, how he got involved, what he discovered, and then why he left.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:23 PM

4. Text prove TFGs call to go to the Capitol Complex was planned! !*** He knew** what he was doing!

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:26 PM

13. That's the biggest takeaway from today...

Öand I donít think theyíre emphasizing it enough.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:20 PM

149. +1, this should be the headlines in EVERYTHING !!!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:24 PM

6. Woman sitting behind Ayers seems "nice" 😳😳

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:25 PM

10. You're just wrong

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:37 PM

54. LOL 😂

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #54)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:38 PM

65. And she was just identified - his wife

(figured either a wife or sister)

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:33 PM

40. Seriously. Has she thrown up any white power symbols like Kavanaugh's aide? (n/t)

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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #40)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:43 PM

81. Well, she did make an interesting sneer each time her husband

mentioned being "all about family". It was amusingly obvious each time.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:24 PM

7. Next witness Stephen Ayers, a former 45 supporter, describing why he came to the insurrecction

Questions from both Thompson and now Cheney.

He was heavily into social media and got deeply involved.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:27 PM

15. He's not too bright. Still doesn't seem convinced that the election wasn't stolen.

All of the lost lawsuits seemed to have some impact, though.

One thing is certain - Social Media can be absolute poison for weak-minded people and RWNJs exploit it to no end.

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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:18 PM

146. yes, indeedy. Darkest before the dawn.

All of the lost lawsuits seemed to have some impact, though.

Amazing what it takes to get some people's attention.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:32 PM

33. The video of him entering the Capitol

Last edited Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:26 PM - Edit history (1)

shows him heavily covered up in cap, gaiter mask, and camo hood. I don't think Ayres expected to be recognized.

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Response to crickets (Reply #33)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:37 PM

51. Those insurrection sleuth groups have been amazing IDing people

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:25 PM

8. Rep Cheney: do you still believe the election was stolen.

All the lawsuits being shot down is what convinced me it wasnít stolen.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:25 PM

9. Such an interesting dynamic. I don't know who to root for.

I know these two Oathkeepers are helping but Iím not sure I buy their self proclaimed innocence.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:26 PM

14. I can't muster either respect or pity for them.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:28 PM

18. Just following orders of Hair Furor. Doesn't really work, does it.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #18)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:30 PM

26. Nope. But I'll take the evidence they're providing.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:25 PM

11. "Do you still believe the election was stolen?" "Not so much now." What?? So just a little??

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #11)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:31 PM

31. Lawyers prob told him to say dismissed lawsuits convinced him

Clearly he is not convinced.

And I'll bet he'd vote for tfg again!


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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:26 PM

12. Ayer's deletes social media after Jan 6

Starts doing his own research. Lawsuits being shot down is what convinced him (that election was not stolen)

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:35 PM

47. "Doing his own research" while chugging horse dewormer, likely.

Dude isn't too bright but maybe he'll get through to some people.

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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #47)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:04 PM

133. But the country is full of these people.

Not "too bright", but 68% of Americans have no type of College education of any kind. That doesn't mean college degrees, that's no post-high school education of any sort. Many of those people didn't even graduate from high school.

How the hell can we reach these people, because they're the type that rely on Facebook for their news, and are susceptible to these far-right, white supremacist liars?

We can't just give up on these people. We certainly can't reach all of them, but they're not all hopeless, are they?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:27 PM

16. Ayer's didn't plan on going to Capitol

President got everyone riled up

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:27 PM

17. Rep Murphy: Why did you decide to March to the Capitol?

Ayres: Trump told us to march to the Capitol

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:28 PM

19. whoa

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Response to Novara (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:18 PM

145. Yep. Parscale tweets.

text:

MoveOn @MoveOn
Texts between former Trump campaign adviser Brad Parscale and spokesperson Katrina Pierson in the aftermath of the insurrection:
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#Jan6thHearing
3:26 PM ∑ Jul 12, 2022






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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:28 PM

20. Everyone thought Trump was going to Capitol

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:28 PM

21. Drive that bus, boys. Drive that bus.

Lay it at his feet.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:29 PM

22. This entire day has been masterfully carried out

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Response to NewHendoLib (Reply #22)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:29 PM

25. Each of these hearings has been a masterpiece.

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:32 PM

35. Absolutely. Very proud to be a Democrat (as I have all my life)

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:33 PM

38. +1,000,000!!!



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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:56 PM

120. The J6 committee is the very definition of...

Öhaving your ducks in a row. Cool, calm, organized, detail-oriented, measured voices, no histrionics.

Kudos to them.

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:21 PM

151. +1, just when you think they're not going to say something new ... they say something new

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:29 PM

24. Raskin up....insurrection act question

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:30 PM

27. Excellent point here:

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:30 PM

28. I hope this journalist has protection. n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:31 PM

29. Raskin mention Stewart Rhodes call for use of the "Insurrection Act"

and wanted Tatenrove's

Tatenrove - this was an "armed insurrection". Rhodes wanted to legitimize himself.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:31 PM

30. So he wanted to be TFG's Himmler.

Rhodes, that is.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:31 PM

32. Well there you have it. An armed revolution. GET them!

Boy I hope heís got somewhere to go. That bunch will be after him.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:32 PM

36. Evidence the Oathkeepers brought not only weapons but EXPLOSIVES to January 6.

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #36)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:33 PM

42. This is really some testimony! Scary. n/t

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Response to livetohike (Reply #42)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:36 PM

48. This is a guy who JOINED the Oathkeepers because he thought the Bundy standoff was so great.

And the current state of the group is way too much for HIM to tolerate.

That's saying something.

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #48)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:37 PM

55. Yes. Exactly. n/t

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #36)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:38 PM

64. Who placed bombs???

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #36)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:21 PM

152. +1, prolly pipe bomb gal associated with OathKeepers

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:32 PM

37. Rhodes bought 7k worth of tactical for Jan 6

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:33 PM

39. OMG Hillary as queen of hearts in their deck of targets

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:33 PM

41. "explosives training"

This should make everyone's blood run cold.

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Response to Novara (Reply #41)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:37 PM

53. The FBI still hasn't caught the Capitol Hill bomber. Nt

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:34 PM

43. Brilliant maneuver to play on likely sexism of Ayres

Cheney and Murphy asked Qs of him, somewhat gently. It may have seemed less confrontational to him than if men had done it and he said exactly what they wanted to hearóthat he hadnít intended to riot until Trump told the crowd what to do on Jan. 6.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:34 PM

44. Tatenrove - "Stewart Rhodes" wanted to do paramilitary

"We were exceedingly lucky that more bloodshed didn't happen".

Gallows set up for Mike Pence - the VP of the U.S.

"I do fear for the next election".

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #44)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:36 PM

50. Who set gallows up & placed bombs?

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #50)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:42 PM

77. I know someone knows....

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #77)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:43 PM

79. I would have asked.

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #79)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:45 PM

85. I think Tatenrove left well before January 6

so he probably wouldn't know, but it seems he wanted to underscore the danger of what happened.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #85)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:47 PM

90. Somebody knows. Haul their asses in there & ask

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #90)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:51 PM

99. There were thousands there

I expect someone is still looking....

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #99)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:10 PM

139. No doubt!

Seems to me coordinators would know.

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #139)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:19 PM

147. There seemed to have been different groups

the Proud Boys/Oathkeepers/3%ers doing the "paramilitary style "storming" of the building. In fact I remember seeing so many comments from pundits and others pointing out how there were literally certain small groups of camo-wearing individuals breaking into the building and moving "in formation".

Then you had state elected officials like here in PA, who were "sponsoring" groups and paying for buses.

So I don't know if the supremacists constructed that (although it could be one of their chapters) - but it's obvious that they seemed to be more focused on going on a "hunting trip" in the building in "military fashion".

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #147)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:22 PM

153. True

But I'm guessing they were going to hunt then frog march to gallows for public display. Just guessing of course.


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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #44)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:42 PM

76. "We have to stop mincing words and call things what they are."

"This was going to be an armed revolution."

As chilling as this is, I am glad he's forcefully making the point that there absolutely was deliberate planning to get people killed, to "take out" different politicians and judges like a "pack of cards" up to and including Hillary Clinton as the Queen of Hearts. Talking about explosives training*, yikes.

Warning that tfg will try again if he's reelected. Says "we have to start holding people to account."


*wondering about pipe bombs in light of this testimony.

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Response to crickets (Reply #76)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:43 PM

80. And he wants to start a civil war.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:35 PM

45. So where is Stewart Rhodes on this day?

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Response to irisblue (Reply #45)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:37 PM

52. Unavoidably detained

He's sitting in prison awaiting trial.

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Response to Dread Pirate Roberts (Reply #52)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:38 PM

58. Thank you. The idea that he was out on bail made me nauseous

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Response to irisblue (Reply #45)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:37 PM

56. Pre-trial jail

He's been trying to get moved to another facility in a different town and to have his trial moved as well and blah blah blah

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Response to blogslug (Reply #56)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:53 PM

108. Thx for the update

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Response to irisblue (Reply #45)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:38 PM

59. He was there. Details will come out at his trial, I suppose. Here's the indictment Jan 13 2022.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #59)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:52 PM

106. Thank you

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Response to irisblue (Reply #106)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:11 PM

140. You're welcome, irisblue!

The link is a good read, yes?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:35 PM

46. " what's going to happen if he gets elected again?" n/t

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Response to livetohike (Reply #46)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:41 PM

73. He's not getting elected again. n/t

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Response to livetohike (Reply #46)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:54 PM

115. He won't

but there's others who'll be happy to take up the torch and more efficiently try to dismantle everything in order to create the White Christian United States of Q-Anon.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:36 PM

49. If the law still holds in this country, Trump, and many others, are Fucked

Today is devastating for them.

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Response to NewHendoLib (Reply #49)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:38 PM

62. From your keyboard to the big 'mater in the sky!

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #62)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:38 PM

66. .



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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:38 PM

57. Ayers - "lost my job, sold my house"

"Changed not for the good".

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #57)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:58 PM

159. What was his job? I couldn't find any mention on my internet.

and thank you for the threads BumRushDaShow


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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #159)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:34 PM

160. Haven't been able to find anything about that either

just tidbits of how he was from OH, family members turned him in, that he lad an 8 minute Facebook video bragging about what they had done, and that he had been there with at least 2 others including one other from OH (who committed suicide a year later ) and a woman from PA.

And you're welcome!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:38 PM

60. Ayres: lost my job. Had to sell my house. n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:38 PM

61. OMG Hillary Clinton was the Queen of Hearts to kill

In the deck of cards they had. FBI are you listening to this?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:38 PM

63. This is fucking infuriating

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:39 PM

67. Who gave Stewart Rhodes (oath keepers) the money for the weapons and tatical gear he ....

.... was sending to VA prior to the 1/6/21 attack on America?

Ginni Thomas? The Trump campaign? The Mercers?

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Response to Botany (Reply #67)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:44 PM

82. Let's hope that's answered in his trial. It's evidence that the DOJ is probably holding until then.

After his conviction is when we see further arrests for the aiders and abettors of conspiracy. We should know the names of his funders by then. On the other hand they might claim not to be aware how their money was spent, since they might have "donated" to what Rhodes is said to have presented as a worthy cause.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:39 PM

68. Rhoads

Needs to be swiftly sent to GITMO with other terrorists that are a threat to this country. Just like ISIS detainees, charges will be pending until, whenever. He is the American Bin Laden. He should spend whatís left of his one eyed life (he shot the other one out himself) in that facility. Far away from Americans. He ainít one.

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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #68)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:40 PM

69. I agree.

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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #68)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:41 PM

74. Along with slob, spawn & russian assets in our govt. Every. One.

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #74)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:51 PM

102. 🤜🤛

Every one of them. Other terrorists are there, waiting for a charge, some decades. Do not wait to charge those MFRís. Lock them up for our safety. We will get to charges when we can. They threw away American Justice and rights. Give em the kind of Justice they want to kill for. Like, Russia, Hungary. North Korea, and any Taliban ruled country. Include Flynn, Bannon and Jones. So glad Rusty Limpballs is dead, imaging his bloviating the last 2 years and being trumps main General to take over this country.

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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #102)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:09 PM

138. I couldn't agree more!



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Response to Traildogbob (Reply #68)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:22 PM

154. +1, if Rhoads was Muslim he'd already be there imho

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #154)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:35 PM

158. There are many

That should be stripped of citizenship. They donít believe in a society. Take it away, put in Texas holding cells waiting deportation. Send em to Afghanistan, where they have lots of Anti American, Anti Democracy club members. Let Kim Jong Un have em as play things or target practice.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:40 PM

70. Ayres: Take the blinders off ... before it's too late.

Smartest thing he said throughout his testimony.

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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #70)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:47 PM

89. +1

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:40 PM

72. Chair thanking witnesses and offering opportunity for more questions in writing

Now having Jamie Raskin doing a closing statement.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:41 PM

75. Jamie Raskin for President one day! n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:43 PM

78. I wonder if any of these oath keepers comrades will see the light

after hearing this.

one can hope.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #78)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:45 PM

84. They will all vote for qpukes.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:44 PM

83. Goddammit, now I'm crying

Raskin is so eloquent.

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Response to Novara (Reply #83)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:50 PM

94. "We have to wonder what the former president would think if he knew what Officer Grinell was facing.

Personally, I think TFG would simply say "SUCK-AAA". TFG has no respect for LEO in general, and certainly couldn't care less about this officer in particular. It's not in his nature to have or show empathy.

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Response to Novara (Reply #83)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:51 PM

98. Seriously. And Murphy telling her personal story of fleeing Vietnam...

and how much she loves America.

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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #98)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:54 PM

112. I worked with someone

Who was tossed onto a boat as a 3-year old leaving Saigon during the evacuation. He got split up from his Mom and brother. It took months and months for them to find each other in San Francisco.

I have so much respect for people who build a life after things like that.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:45 PM

86. Rep Raskin: American Carnage is Trump's true legacy. n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:46 PM

87. Thank you for putting this together for those of us who couldn't watch.

I haven't missed one of the hearings but today I had something else going on and missed it. So I'll savor watching it tonight.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:47 PM

88. Hamilton addressed the rise of a figure like tRump in the 1st Federalist Paper

How they begin as demagogues pandering to the people, then end up as tyrants.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:48 PM

91. Raskin gave a bangup seech Murphy's closing statement now...

Murphy noting that she was born in Vietnam after the war when her family fled.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:49 PM

92. Ms. Murphy! SO eloquent!

I was choked up.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #92)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:51 PM

100. Got me, too

Pit of the stomach lurch when she said she had to flee fellow American citizens.

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Response to Mersky (Reply #100)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:00 PM

129. After

fleeing the same violence in her home country to come to America. I was so choked at the thought of what she's gone through and her gratitude for the "grace" of this country letting her in.

She is among those the Right would want to "disappear" with their "replacement fear."

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:49 PM

93. Cheney summarizing and giving her closing statement

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:50 PM

95. Of all the hearings, this one has made me the most furious

Heads need to roll, DOJ. Heads need to roll.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:51 PM

96. But it WASN'T just Trump!

It was a whole cabal of media, think tanks, politicians, paramilitary hate groups, fundamentalist church leaders, rogue billionaires going all the way to the Lee Atwater days (and probably beyond) that got us to Jan 6. While Trump should go down, he should NOT be the lone perp walker.

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Response to Montauk6 (Reply #96)

Wed Jul 13, 2022, 06:54 AM

162. And Roger Stone also dates back to Nixon, just like Atwater.

The mistake our country made back then was to let both Nixon and Agnew skate on their crimes by resigning. Neither of those two rotten crooks spent a single day in jail. The unfortunate message that was sent is that you can get away with anything as long as you are powerful enough and are either rich or backed by people with deep pockets. The hateful toxic slime of bigotry has been around since the founding of this country and is way overdue for being faced and dealt with. But it needs its jet fuel of big money to be exposed and cut off. You named all the sources that have lead us to where we are. All of these connections need to be exposed, and their influence and money cut off. It will be like attacking The Hydra.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:51 PM

97. Rep Cheney giving closing statement. Trump summoned the

mob and he knew they were armed.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:51 PM

101. I have one question...

When will Merrick Garland wake up, and indict the leader?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:52 PM

103. Murphy, WOW

This is the first time Iíve heard her speak. What moving, powerful comments from a Vietnamese -American. I hope weíll see more of her in the future.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:52 PM

104. Cheney giving highlghts from Cipollone that will be discussed at the next hearing next week.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:52 PM

105. Nest week, another hearing

It sounds like it may be their last?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:52 PM

107. Raskin: Sgt Gonell (Capitol police) so badly wounded

with permanent damage to shoulder and foot, that he is unable to return to his job. So sad and unfair. 😔

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:53 PM

109. 45 - witness tampering!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #109)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:55 PM

116. The tamperer ought to be in prison

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #109)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:57 PM

121. Oh myyyyy.

This could be fun. Twitter caught in person. HmmmÖ who has his phone number in their contacts, so they could screen it? Cipollone?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #109)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:58 PM

123. tRump called a witness we haven't seen, yet

That witnessís lawyer contacted the Jan 6 Committee that, in turn, referred it to the DOJ.

Cheney continues to not disappoint with her final comments.

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Response to Mersky (Reply #123)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:02 PM

131. Ikr? That was a bombshell.

Looking forward to finding out more about that -- as if some of us needed any encouragement to look forward to next week's hearings.

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Response to crickets (Reply #131)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:12 PM

142. Indispensable look forward for mental preparation, but more than that

Helps check and document the pattern and instances of witness tampering. Is not being shoved under the rug ó the public knows and so does the DOJ. Is super smart, imo.

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Response to Mersky (Reply #123)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:20 PM

150. It's an excellent tactic

to promote the next hearing, and shows that TFG still has no morals--and still thinks someone will cover his ass. Not that we were in any doubt!

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Response to Abigail_Adams (Reply #150)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:30 PM

157. How much is it a tactic or an artifact of how this all has to be spelled out

in a methodical way. tRumpís criming is ongoing as the committee has one more witness kept til the end (which occurs in any number of investigations.)

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:53 PM

110. Next week they will walk through Jan 6 minute by

minute.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:54 PM

111. Thompson doing his closing

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:54 PM

114. Flat out witness tampering?

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:56 PM

117. I could listen to Bennie Thompson all day. Excellent

close.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:56 PM

118. LOCK THE FUCKER UP

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Response to Novara (Reply #118)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:58 PM

126. I wonder if it was Steve Bannon he tried to call? Or Mark Meadows???

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Response to Novara (Reply #118)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:16 PM

144. The FUCKER DOESN'T LEARN!

Please Fight to Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:56 PM

119. I love the cliff hangers at the end

Someone is an effing genius

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:58 PM

122. Thompson - one of those times "that tests the strength of our federal government"

"President of the United States instead sent the mob."

"Nothing in our nation's history come close to that betrayal and dereliction."

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #122)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:05 PM

134. Bennie Thompson's clear explanation of why a federal government is important

and necessary when there are things that states just can't handle alone was so well expressed.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:58 PM

124. ***COMMITTEEE NOW ADJOURNED FOR THE DAY***

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:58 PM

125. I love the stench of witness tampering.

Next week, too, will be a DUzy.

This Committee is to be highly commended for the presentations they are putting forward.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 03:59 PM

127. Wow.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:00 PM

128. **THANK YOU ALL**

(was about to start a thread 5 but figured they were right at the end)

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #128)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:04 PM

132. THANK YOU BACK!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #128)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:06 PM

136. Thanks so much for the excellent thread wrangling, BRDS!

It's wonderful to be able to watch along with everyone's comments here.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #128)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:12 PM

143. Thanks for the threads! See you all next time. n/t

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:00 PM

130. Thank you BumRushDaShow! You are the best!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:19 PM

148. Never heard a pair of bigger dumbasses.

To quote mothers everywhere: ĎIf they told you to jump off a roof, would you do it?Ē

These crazy bastards did, and lost it all for somebody who never, ever gave two shits about them.

playing just for you, suckers.

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Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #148)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:24 PM

155. +1,

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:30 PM

156. I feel drained

watching the hearings is emotionally exhausting.

How those people can live with themselves, I don't know.

Yesterday, there was a concession trailer set up in my town on an empty store lot selling traitor flags and hats. Who would sell or buy that crap now? Knowing what we know. Traitors, that's who.

Other people have been idolized, but I can't think of any one of them who would've tried to destroy our country because of their popularity.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Tue Jul 12, 2022, 05:58 PM

161. Thank you, BRTS! 👍

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