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kentuck

(111,085 posts)
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 09:44 AM Jul 2022

Cipollone thought Trump would be arrested on January 6th.

The incitement was so obvious to him that he thought the FBI or the US Marshals would visit TFG that very day. It was reported at the time but soon slid into the void.

Is this the headline from Friday's hearing?

Cipollone is due to testify by video with the January 6th Committee tomorrow. His name has come up in the testimony of several witnesses, including that of Cassidy Hutchinson, the last witness to testify. He had told her that if they showed up at the Capitol, the list of crimes would be "unimaginable".

He could be a dynamite witness or he could be a dud? It will all depend on how much he wishes to give them. No doubt he has a lot of information to give them if he chooses.

For example, what did Trump say when he was told the FBI may arrest him that very afternoon? How concerned was he over his legal liability? Did he show any remorse?

Very interesting.

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Cipollone thought Trump would be arrested on January 6th. (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2022 OP
He'll give a master class agingdem Jul 2022 #1
I would tend to agree. I think Eastman is the fall guy, and he'll get most / all of the blame. Calista241 Jul 2022 #2
Add to that, attorney / client privilege. Firestorm49 Jul 2022 #3
Cipallone is not dumps lawyer. He is the lawyer of the Office, so no. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #9
Speaker Pelosi thought the same thing. Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #4
Wonder if the Secret Service saved him, by refusing to take him to the Capitol Raven123 Jul 2022 #6
Astute observation, yours. Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #5
By whom? onecaliberal Jul 2022 #7
Per Cassidy Hutchinson's first hand testimony Ohio Joe Jul 2022 #12
Arresting the rich and powerful is something our "justice" system cant process Fullduplexxx Jul 2022 #8
It's like the county I live in... 2naSalit Jul 2022 #11
Cipollone hasn't got the onions to fry the egg yolk. nt usonian Jul 2022 #10
Cipollone Strikes Me as a Competent Attorney Who Wasn't in on the Coup Indykatie Jul 2022 #13
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2022 #14
I hope you are right. kentuck Jul 2022 #17
FBI is such a disappointment. Baitball Blogger Jul 2022 #15
I think Wray may have bent the knee... kentuck Jul 2022 #16
It needs to be cleaned up. Baitball Blogger Jul 2022 #18
It does seem the FBI and the Secret Service have been thoroughly corrupted... kentuck Jul 2022 #19
TFG exploited the fact that authoritarians like himself worked there RANDYWILDMAN Jul 2022 #22
I'm betting they also handed Trump files and Captain Zero Jul 2022 #23
I've always wondered where Trump got the intel on Lindsey. Baitball Blogger Jul 2022 #24
And he still hasn't been! wtf! triron Jul 2022 #21
Does Joe Biden hold any responsibility? kentuck Jul 2022 #25
Please explain how this is relevant. triron Jul 2022 #26
You say that he still hasn't been arrested? kentuck Jul 2022 #27

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
1. He'll give a master class
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:04 AM
Jul 2022

on parsing words...claim both executive privilege and selective amnesia...I can't see him spilling much of anything..

Kid Berwyn

(14,897 posts)
4. Speaker Pelosi thought the same thing.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 10:08 AM
Jul 2022


Pelosi told top general Trump should have been ‘arrested on the spot’ for inciting Capitol insurrection, new book says

by Dan Mangan
CNBC, September 14, 2021

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told the top U.S. Army general that then-President Donald Trump was a “dictator” who “should have been arrested on the spot” after what she called his coup attempt to remain in the White House by inciting the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection, a new book reveals.

Pelosi also said during a phone call in January with Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mike Milley that “the Republicans have blood on their hands” for enabling Trump’s delusions about his ability to retain the presidency, the book says.

“But it is a sad state of affairs for our country that we’ve been taken over by a dictator who used force against another branch of government,” Pelosi, a California Democrat, told Milley during the call several days after the riot, according to “Peril,” a new book by Washington Post journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa.

Continues…

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/14/trump-should-have-been-arrested-for-capitol-riot-pelosi-told-milley.html

FTR: I agree with Madame Speaker and counselor Cipillone.

Kid Berwyn

(14,897 posts)
20. Astute observation, yours.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 01:30 PM
Jul 2022

The “Just following orders” contingent has a lot of explaining to do.

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Ohio Joe

(21,755 posts)
12. Per Cassidy Hutchinson's first hand testimony
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:45 AM
Jul 2022

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON: On January 3rd, Mr. Cipollone had approached me knowing that Mark had raised the prospect of going up to the Capitol on January 6th. Mr. Cipollone and I had a brief private conversation where he said to me we need to make sure that this doesn't happen. This would be a legally a terrible idea for us. We're — we have serious legal concerns if we go up to the Capitol that day.

And he then urged me to continue relaying that to Mr. Meadows, because it's my understanding that Mr. Cipollone thought that Mr. Meadows was indeed pushing this, along with the president.

LIZ CHENEY: And we understand, Ms. Hutchinson, that you also spoke to Mr. Cipollone on the morning of the 6th as you were about to go to the rally on the Ellipse, and Mr. Cipollone said something to you like make sure the movement to the Capitol does not happen. Is that correct?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON: That's correct. I saw Mr. Cipollone right before I walked out onto West Exec that morning, and Mr. Cipollone said something to the effect of please make sure we don't go up to the Capitol, Cassidy. Keep in touch with me. We're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen.

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/28/1108396692/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript

2naSalit

(86,577 posts)
11. It's like the county I live in...
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:42 AM
Jul 2022

We have a shitload of rich and famous assholes who own large tracts of land yet refuse to pay their taxes. When I asked about that, when I worked for the county, and asked why they didn't apply some pressure I was told,

"Well, people just don't like to be told what to do."

Mind you, this was during a conversation about fire response in a rural area where there are few resources on hand at first, but the R&F crowd wont pay the local taxes that fund the service and scream when fires on their property aren't attended to by taxpayer funded services. Other than the R&F crowd, the rest of us are lower middle class to impoverished and we end up paying to protect their shit. So the county fire chiefs decided that they will only service properties for which taxes are paid.

The big problem is that all of it is surrounded by national forest and other public lands that will burn too.

But don't ask those rich and famous to participate in the tax structure because they don't like to be told what to do.


FTFF!

Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
13. Cipollone Strikes Me as a Competent Attorney Who Wasn't in on the Coup
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:55 AM
Jul 2022

I don't seem him going out of his way to protect Trump. He sees what the J6 hearings has uncovered so far and knows many in Trump's orbit are headed to jail. He has nothing to gain and much to lose by providing any cover for Trump and Meadows.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
14. Recommended.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 11:59 AM
Jul 2022

I haven't had the news on yet today. But what I had heard reported yesterday was that he wasscheduled to be interviewed on Friday, but not as part of the public hearings. However, clips of the tape will likely be included in at one or more future hearings.

Now, I coul be wrong -- often am -- but I think he is smart enough to recognize the significant difference between being Trump's lawyer, and the White House lawyer. Add that a lawyer has no right to keep a planned crime secret. So while there are likely a few areas that he will claim privilege -- not limited to Trump -- very little about the insurrection is off the table.

So in my opinion, it comes down to what side of history he wants to be on. I keep in mind that he was willing to serve in Trump's White House as a poodle trained in law. I don't like or dislike poodles .... just not my choice in breeds. Yet I think he is going to be honest when he testifies on Friday, and that it will be, at least, significant. Possibly explosive!

Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)
18. It needs to be cleaned up.
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 01:21 PM
Jul 2022

Their response has been so inadequate, in just about every major event from local to federal level.

They seem to be very politically influenced.

kentuck

(111,085 posts)
19. It does seem the FBI and the Secret Service have been thoroughly corrupted...
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 01:29 PM
Jul 2022

...during the Trump years. I'm sure there was corruption before then, but that completed the process.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,672 posts)
22. TFG exploited the fact that authoritarians like himself worked there
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 01:39 PM
Jul 2022

they never want to take down one of their own.


FFF do you damn job, of wait, it's a rich celebrity, so NO !!!

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
23. I'm betting they also handed Trump files and
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 01:42 PM
Jul 2022

Files of FBI info on individuals. Trump can run blackmail and extortion grifts until he dies.

kentuck

(111,085 posts)
25. Does Joe Biden hold any responsibility?
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 01:57 PM
Jul 2022

He appointed Garland.

Are presidents supposed to never discuss anything with their Attorney/Generals?

kentuck

(111,085 posts)
27. You say that he still hasn't been arrested?
Thu Jul 7, 2022, 02:15 PM
Jul 2022

I ask does Joe Biden bear any responsibility? If not, why not?

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