I am going ahead and say what I think.

[imanamerican63]

I think these shootings are a form of a violent civil war. The Republicans do not care about the rights of people who can’t defend themselves from their own country when they have done nothing wrong, just living their lives day to day. Yet, gun laws will be weak in efforts to stop these shootings. Too many Republicans have aligned themselves to the fascist side of the NRA and Trump. Winning at all costs is their game plan and if people are killed? So be it, too bad. Just like on J-6, they acted sincere but knew they were not going to be hurt by the mob. So, let’s not kid ourselves, this is their way of fighting a war.

[Irish_Dem]

1. I agree 100%. GOP wants to terrorize and demoralize the US population.

Make us docile, feeling helpless and disconnected from our society.

Also gives the GOP their storm troopers to help bring down the US government.

I have been saying this for quite some time.

[live love laugh]

23. ✔️✔️

[czarjak]

2. "Any means necessary"

[live love laugh]

24. They killed Malcom X for that stance only to steal it.

[Irish_Dem]

26. Yes the Putin GOP is at war with the US and will stop at nothing to achieve their goals.

[HAB911]

3. Sniper warfare may be the form the promised civil war takes

[SleeplessinSoCal]

4. Will the rest of the Republican base finally say "Enough"?

Surely the violent means to an end is a losing proposition.

[HAB911]

6. I hold out no hope

in the past few years, when I have confronted a few of these nuts with the fact they did not stand a chance against the US military, they always respond with some vision of guerilla warfare bull. The rest of the Republican base will be scared shitless to say anything.

[Evolve Dammit]

11. I don't see that as even remotely possible for forseeable future. They. Don't. Care. yet.....

[JCMach1]

5. It's something new: gamified stochastic terrorism and it's getting worse

[MadameButterfly]

7. This is about Civil War but

I don't think Republicans support mass shootings. They just want to be fully armed when the civil war comes, and keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies would decimate their army.

[MontanaMama]

8. If republicans refuse to do anything about the violence within their ranks

then they support mass shootings. They are already "fully armed" and they are the party of criminals and crazies. Next?

[MadameButterfly]

21. I understand that their position causes mass shootings

I just don't think the purpose of their position is to create mass shootings. The purpose is that they remain fully armed. Mass shootings are just a side effect they are willing to live with.

[brush]

9. The recent marches and show-of-force-gatherings....

of winger militia groups, plus the highlighting of their prominence in the attempted coup by the J6 Committee, and these continued mass killings and the obvious reluctance of the right to do anything to stop them are precursors of upheavals to come.

No society can long survive with events like this continuing. We're not quite yet at the end of the Weimar republic days where Nazi brown shirt groups began their thuggish street destruction and beatings, but the mid-terms will determine where we go from here. IMO trump will not be the republican nominee as the J6 revelations will continue to damage him, but if we Dems lose both majorities in Congress the nation is sunk.

I don't think we'll lose both though as the Senate has more vulnerable republicans than Dems, and the House is a coin flip.

The mid-term elections are the determinant though of the nation's future.

[panfluteman]

16. Exactly! Heck Yeah, the Midterms Will Be the Prime Determinant of Our Nation's Future.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. If the Republicans win back both houses of Congress, they will spend the next two years diligently paving the way for their Dear Leader's return back to the White House. And a second Trump term will spell the end of American democracy and the inauguration of a fascist regime here in the US.

[live love laugh]

25. "... precursors of upheavals to come..." SOON. NOW.

[poli-junkie]

10. A nation chock full of guns

is planned chaos, while the fascists suppress and steal.

[NJCher]

12. ehhh

too far-fetched for me.

[panfluteman]

13. Exactly! Well Put! It's What I've Been Thinking for a Long Time.

These mass shootings could actually be the opening salvos or battles of a second American Civil War. And having these mass shootings continue, with effective legislation that could stop them being blocked in congress is the GOP's way of gloating in the success of their minority rule. These mass shootings could also be viewed as the GOP getting their surrogates to do their killing or violence for them, instead of having to do it themselves. How twisted and perverse!

[Novara]

14. I've been saying it for a long time too

A population in fear is one that doesn't push back. They think that keeping us in fear will keep us compliant and controlled.

It's GOP terrorism.

[relayerbob]

15. Yep. Definitely terrorism

Similar to the IRA type of civil war. Doesn't need to have a central location giving orders, just get people to flip out on their own, and give them the tools and excuses to do it.

[sop]

17. Allowing the flood of illegal firearms into inner city neighborhoods also appears to be part of the

larger plan to increase gun violence, resulting in overpolicing, violent arrests and racial unrest.

[ancianita]

18. Trying to talk myself out of agreeing with you, but can't.

Thanks for your post about how it looks out there. Here's an article with numbers.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/06/02/mass-shootings-in-2022/

The graphs we see usually don't even measure the collateral loss, harm and damage to the families, neighborhoods and larger communities. It could be a slow roll civil war. Arm a huge populace with point-and-shoot AR's, feed them fear ideologies and let 'er rip.

Put these yearly numbers up alongside 350,000,000 people, though, and they look different. There's a high suicide rate with guns, based on this breakdown of 45,222 people dying from gun-related injuries of all causes during 2020, the last year for which complete data is available...





Not that I disagree with you; a contingent of gun humpers do want civil war. I'm more like probably trying to talk myself out of agreeing with you. It's just that the numbers don't show gun deaths and mass shooters trying for just that. Which could point to the problem with numbers. Counting is precision, but not accuracy.

The civil war gunners look miniscule.





How politics play into gun use isn't usually measured, from what I can tell. But here's a profile.






Summers are peak time for mass shooting. If CDC numbers rise beyond summer, we'll probably have to keep a more constant 'civil war watch' going into the next two years, as well. Because we're a gun-filled country and the strife feels real.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

[Joinfortmill]

19. The Grand Old Party is morally corrupted beyond repair. Vote.

[IronLionZion]

20. Or terrorism

Americans can be shot dead anytime anywhere by any fellow American and we all just seem to accept it as normal. It shouldn't be normal.

Freedom isn't free if civilians are in a constant war zone simply going about our lives. None of us signed up for this war.

[applegrove]

22. Multiple mass shootings also slowly teaches Americans that

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brutality is the norm. No need for social programs when taking them away from you and your family is conducted while you worry you could all be shot down like rabid dogs in the streets on any given day. And then that horror happens to some family somewhere. You end up always terrified of getting killed or always numb.

[dalton99a]

27. +1. And don't expect protection from the police

Their job is to only protect the rich and powerful from being assassinated

[applegrove]

28. I disagree. The police are more affected by lax gun policy than anyone else.