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Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:24 AM

Lobby Murkoski and Collins

to carve out the filibuster for a vote on abortion rights. Make them put up or shut up.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:28 AM

1. Exactly.

If they are so Pro-Choice, make them defend a woman's right to choose. They need to be on the record.

Women in their states are none too happy about being CONTROLLED while they are NOT at the moment. Particularly if they have daughters and Granddaughters.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:47 AM

4. Collins got re-elected and doesn't care

Murkowski doesn't care. Why in the world does anyone think any of the Rethugs care.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:30 AM

2. It would be a waste of time and effort.

They will never go along. They’re like broken clocks, they might be right twice a day, but the rest of the time, no.

It would be very surprising if they went along with a carve out of the filibuster.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:36 AM

3. I've never understood why they're considered "moderates"

or "good". Especially the eternally-concerned Collins.

When it matters, they follow their party every time. From Bush's war and crimes and before to now. They will never cast a vote that would make their side lose.

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Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 4, 2022, 12:38 PM

8. They're considered moderates because of their voting records.

Both are middle-of-the-road.

Collins:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/susan-collins/

Murkowski:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/lisa-murkowski/

They vote with Democrats or with Biden more than anyone else on the R side, around 70%.

That's not the entire picture, of course, but as far as overall records go, they are quite moderate and have been for a long time.

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Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 4, 2022, 12:40 PM

9. They'd NEVER buck their party

Waste of time.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 4, 2022, 10:54 AM

5. If it's not a waste of time

to get Manchin and Sinema on record, then it's not a waste to get Murkowski and Collins on record whether they stand up for pro-choice issues when it matters. Both came out in opposition to overturning Roe. Let's see how they vote.
It's tiring that Dems get blamed for something that probably 90+% of Dem Senators would vote against while they have to fight anti-choice extremists with 0% repub support. Get these alleged pro-choice repubs on record and make them accountable.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Mon Jul 4, 2022, 11:19 AM

6. Never ever try to negotiate with Collins. She, like Manchin, just craves media attention.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Mon Jul 4, 2022, 11:56 AM

7. Murkowski maybe. Our lady of Perpetual Concern I don't think so.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Mon Jul 4, 2022, 12:57 PM

10. If a woman lawmaker votes for men controlling women then maybe we should infer that men control HER.

 


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