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ProudMNDemocrat

(16,730 posts)
1. Exactly.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 11:28 AM
Jul 2022

If they are so Pro-Choice, make them defend a woman's right to choose. They need to be on the record.

Women in their states are none too happy about being CONTROLLED while they are NOT at the moment. Particularly if they have daughters and Granddaughters.

NoRethugFriends

(2,279 posts)
4. Collins got re-elected and doesn't care
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 11:47 AM
Jul 2022

Murkowski doesn't care. Why in the world does anyone think any of the Rethugs care.

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
2. It would be a waste of time and effort.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 11:30 AM
Jul 2022

They will never go along. They’re like broken clocks, they might be right twice a day, but the rest of the time, no.

It would be very surprising if they went along with a carve out of the filibuster.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,423 posts)
3. I've never understood why they're considered "moderates"
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 11:36 AM
Jul 2022

or "good". Especially the eternally-concerned Collins.

When it matters, they follow their party every time. From Bush's war and crimes and before to now. They will never cast a vote that would make their side lose.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
8. They're considered moderates because of their voting records.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 01:38 PM
Jul 2022

Both are middle-of-the-road.

Collins:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/susan-collins/

Murkowski:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-congress-votes/lisa-murkowski/

They vote with Democrats or with Biden more than anyone else on the R side, around 70%.

That's not the entire picture, of course, but as far as overall records go, they are quite moderate and have been for a long time.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
5. If it's not a waste of time
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jul 2022

to get Manchin and Sinema on record, then it's not a waste to get Murkowski and Collins on record whether they stand up for pro-choice issues when it matters. Both came out in opposition to overturning Roe. Let's see how they vote.
It's tiring that Dems get blamed for something that probably 90+% of Dem Senators would vote against while they have to fight anti-choice extremists with 0% repub support. Get these alleged pro-choice repubs on record and make them accountable.

Towlie

(5,322 posts)
10. If a woman lawmaker votes for men controlling women then maybe we should infer that men control HER.
Mon Jul 4, 2022, 01:57 PM
Jul 2022

 
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