Sat Jul 2, 2022, 06:04 AM

Soph0571 (9,655 posts)

You can say what you want about democrats, HOWEVER...

Add The Road to the list now that the horror shit show far right extremist SCOTUS has killed environmental protections, and pretty much there if the GOP get their way. They offer no nope - just destruction and regression.

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You can say what you want about democrats, HOWEVER... (Original post)	Soph0571	Jul 2	OP
And idiots said Hillary was just the same as that orange turd.	Lunabell	Jul 2	#1
Yes and it really is that bad	bucolic_frolic	Jul 2	#2
They want to burn it all down, but have no idea what that will actually do. Fools. Dangerous fools.	Evolve Dammit	Jul 2	#3
The Kochs want to be king.	Bluethroughu	Jul 2	#10
Or, we could just stop worshipping the almighty dollar?	OldBaldy1701E	Jul 2	#15
"If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself." Herman Cain	Bluethroughu	Jul 2	#17
Exactly.	OldBaldy1701E	Jul 2	#18
No we will win, good always prevails.	Bluethroughu	Jul 2	#25
There's actually only one Koch left to go.	dchill	Jul 2	#28
There are actually two brothers left, but one is ok...	Bluethroughu	Jul 2	#33
indeed. Bring back the 94% tax rate under Eisenhower (a Repub).	Evolve Dammit	Jul 2	#36
YEP	Cosmocat	Jul 2	#21
Rush and Fox were hugely successful	Evolve Dammit	Jul 2	#35
This message was self-deleted by its author	Chin music	Jul 2	#4
Yes, and domestic oligarchs also fund it.	gab13by13	Jul 2	#6
This message was self-deleted by its author	Chin music	Jul 2	#7
They know that the demographics are not on their side and getting worse.	The Jungle 1	Jul 2	#5
It doesn't matter who votes, what matters is who counts the votes.	gab13by13	Jul 2	#8
We have free and fair elections.	The Jungle 1	Jul 2	#9
Yes we have... up to this point*.	Shipwack	Jul 2	#12
As you have said, PA Rethug gubernatorial candidate Mastriano vows to subvert the electoral vote.	John1956PA	Jul 2	#13
Stalin's old statement	DFW	Jul 2	#34
Sometimes I wonder if simply campaigning wouldn't be easier than all of these games they play.	Hugin	Jul 2	#11
Next year SCOTUS will take up a case that would give more authority	Hortensis	Jul 2	#16
Yep - that will be end game	Cosmocat	Jul 2	#23
Nothing's end game while we're here "that government of the people,	Hortensis	Jul 2	#26
OK, dude ...	Cosmocat	Jul 2	#31
The conservative half	Icanthinkformyself	Jul 2	#14
Sadly, you are entirely correct.	dchill	Jul 2	#20
I've been wondering: what IS the actual religion that...	dchill	Jul 2	#19
That's because even the MAGAs have moved away from religion	Hortensis	Jul 2	#27
Religious excuses - oughta be a law against those.	dchill	Jul 2	#29
:) Yes! Right here on earth. The penalties for breaking	Hortensis	Jul 2	#30
Many "valid criticisms" aren't valid. Accusing them of being the same as Republicans	betsuni	Jul 2	#22
+1	emulatorloo	Jul 2	#32
Amen	Joinfortmill	Jul 2	#24

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 06:26 AM

Lunabell (3,429 posts)

1. And idiots said Hillary was just the same as that orange turd.

If I were to ever see Susan Sarandon in person, I'd be tempted to do something mildly violent. Or at the very least scream, "Murderer!" at her.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 06:37 AM

bucolic_frolic (33,321 posts)

2. Yes and it really is that bad

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Sat Jul 2, 2022, 06:43 AM

Evolve Dammit (11,009 posts)

3. They want to burn it all down, but have no idea what that will actually do. Fools. Dangerous fools.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:29 AM

Bluethroughu (2,674 posts)

10. The Kochs want to be king.

They have a plan, they always do. They've been working it for over 40 years.

The faster we address psychopathic billionaires, the faster we get what we want.

Start with enforcing the Sherman anti-trust act, then tax these fascists the way FDR did, pass laws and fund the country in a way the MAJORITY want.

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Response to Bluethroughu (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:54 AM

OldBaldy1701E (2,645 posts)

15. Or, we could just stop worshipping the almighty dollar?

Oh, silly me. I forget which country I am in.

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #15)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 08:06 AM

Bluethroughu (2,674 posts)

17. "If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself." Herman Cain

His money couldn't save him from his stupidity.

Integrity, charity, and happiness are the attributes of the rich.

The monetarily wealthy hate anyone that posess these, because you can't buy it. You either have it or you don't.

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Response to Bluethroughu (Reply #17)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 08:16 AM

OldBaldy1701E (2,645 posts)

18. Exactly.

So, they have fought for decades to remove them from any aspect of our society. And, they have largely succeeded.

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #18)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 08:53 AM

Bluethroughu (2,674 posts)

25. No we will win, good always prevails.

And we are way stronger than the fearful envious mediocrity they possess.

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Response to Bluethroughu (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:02 AM

dchill (32,690 posts)

28. There's actually only one Koch left to go.

Fingers crossed.

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Response to dchill (Reply #28)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:36 AM

Bluethroughu (2,674 posts)

33. There are actually two brothers left, but one is ok...

The other is a wacko.

Fingers 🤞

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Response to Bluethroughu (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 11:53 AM

Evolve Dammit (11,009 posts)

36. indeed. Bring back the 94% tax rate under Eisenhower (a Repub).

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 08:32 AM

Cosmocat (13,990 posts)

21. YEP

there are SO many people around me, otherwise decent people, who have been completely brainwashed and know full well that the republican party offers nothing but tearing it all down, and they are COMPLETELY on board because LIBERALS.

They have absolutely no capacity to see how it will effect them and their loved ones over time ...

It is just all about the evil liberal boogyman.

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Sat Jul 2, 2022, 11:52 AM

Evolve Dammit (11,009 posts)

35. Rush and Fox were hugely successful

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Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:14 AM

gab13by13 (11,552 posts)

6. Yes, and domestic oligarchs also fund it.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:13 AM

The Jungle 1 (2,560 posts)

5. They know that the demographics are not on their side and getting worse.

This is a desperate attempt to keep the repuke party to remain relevant.
Their message of christofascism and racist hate is not selling.

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Response to The Jungle 1 (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:15 AM

gab13by13 (11,552 posts)

8. It doesn't matter who votes, what matters is who counts the votes.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:23 AM

The Jungle 1 (2,560 posts)

9. We have free and fair elections.

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Response to The Jungle 1 (Reply #9)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:41 AM

Shipwack (1,544 posts)

12. Yes we have... up to this point*.

*(unless you count Bush v. Gore, or how McConnell keeps winning by a landslide when his popularity is 30% or less…)

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:47 AM

John1956PA (1,765 posts)

13. As you have said, PA Rethug gubernatorial candidate Mastriano vows to subvert the electoral vote.

You correctly pointed out in another thread that Mastriano has indicated that, if he is elected governor of PA, he will take matters into his own hands if the PA popular presidential vote is for the Democratic candidate, whereupon he will approve an alternate slate of electors who will cast their votes for the Rethug candidate.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:45 AM

DFW (48,198 posts)

34. Stalin's old statement

Attributed to him, anyway:

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."

Also expected to be the law of the Soviet States of America.

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Response to The Jungle 1 (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:32 AM

Hugin (30,968 posts)

11. Sometimes I wonder if simply campaigning wouldn't be easier than all of these games they play.

Then I remember how filled with hate for anyone even one iota different than the majority of them, the GrOPpers are and I realize they will never be anything resembling a big tent.

They aren’t inclusive because they can’t be inclusive.

Any time they bray about how many of this or that group are supporting them it’s actually even more -isms. They still categorize these people as the others and will turn on them once they feel they are no longer useful.

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Response to Hugin (Reply #11)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:59 AM

Hortensis (52,712 posts)

16. Next year SCOTUS will take up a case that would give more authority

to state LEGISLATURES to decide presidential elections. This would presumably be in place for the 2024 election. This is on top of SCOTUS's newly very aggressive actions, no longer cautious or incremental, to use their power to impose a tyranny of a far-right majority.

Presidential historian Michael Beschloss said last night that he's now very worried that 2020 could have been our last free election.

They're not playing games. They can't win fair elections, so they're moving to eliminate them.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #16)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 08:36 AM

Cosmocat (13,990 posts)

23. Yep - that will be end game

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Response to Cosmocat (Reply #23)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 08:59 AM

Hortensis (52,712 posts)

26. Nothing's end game while we're here "that government of the people,

by the people, and for the people shall not perish from the earth."

A lapse, if it came to it, would only be that.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #26)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:14 AM

Cosmocat (13,990 posts)

31. OK, dude ...

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 07:48 AM

Icanthinkformyself (152 posts)

14. The conservative half

of the country wants the dystopian nightmare, as long as it's someone else's nightmare and they are the one's creating it.
It's the pain and it's infliction on the people conservatives hate that it's all about. Conservatism is a disease.

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Response to Icanthinkformyself (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 08:23 AM

dchill (32,690 posts)

20. Sadly, you are entirely correct.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 08:22 AM

dchill (32,690 posts)

19. I've been wondering: what IS the actual religion that...

...accounts for and represents everything the GOP, as it were, has actually enacted?

And don't futz with me, I've read most of the Old Testament and all of the New, and I ain't seeing it.

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Response to dchill (Reply #19)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:01 AM

Hortensis (52,712 posts)

27. That's because even the MAGAs have moved away from religion

as a driving force. Their movement is basically secular cultural, and now class, warfare with religious excuses.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #27)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:05 AM

dchill (32,690 posts)

29. Religious excuses - oughta be a law against those.

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Response to dchill (Reply #29)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:10 AM

Hortensis (52,712 posts)

30. :) Yes! Right here on earth. The penalties for breaking

God's laws aren't helping us now.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 08:32 AM

betsuni (20,376 posts)

22. Many "valid criticisms" aren't valid. Accusing them of being the same as Republicans

or doing nothing when they don't have the votes, they're all corrupted by campaign contributions, that there are easy solutions and Democrats refuse to do them, all it takes is the right leadership and messaging and if you just explain things people will understand, Biden promised something.

And on the other side is the dystopian hellscape.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #22)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 09:35 AM

emulatorloo (38,828 posts)

32. +1

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Jul 2, 2022, 08:41 AM

Joinfortmill (7,467 posts)

24. Amen

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