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Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:38 PM

 

The coming internecine battle. Christianity vs. Mormonism.

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To follow, is a portion of the principles of Mormonism, with my commentary on why it will be unacceptable to fundies.

http://sandiegomormontemple.com/purpose-of-life

Where am I going?

Mormon doctrine has a unique view of heaven and what comes after our earth lives are over. Some people think of heaven as a peaceful, happy place, where we will live in paradise and relax in joy in the presence of God. Work is an eternal principle, however, and there is no lasting joy to be found in doing nothing
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No SS or retirement for you. Work till you drop seems to be the message there. Work shall set you free.

Godís plan for His children is that they become like Him. Latter-day Saints believe that there can be eternal increase for each of us who follow Godís commandments
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So far, it sounds perfectly calvinistic. God is a solid capitalist. No zero sum game for him. Everlasting abundance is the promise. Even better, making America, Jesus' summer camp, megaboosts american exceptionalism.

This does not mean we will continue to gain material things, but rather the things that bring true joy: family and creation
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Most religions have agreed to a cosmic DEATH TAX since the ancient Egyptians. I am fairly sure though, that Willard's dogs kennel is afterlife approved.

Mormon temples are an essential part of this doctrine. Mormons believe that God demands a higher law be lived for those who wish to enter His presence; this higher law is perfection
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OOOOOPSy. Can't be perfect till you have your own Mormon Temple. Sanctimonious religiosity, while not being abhorrent to fundies, sounds a little Popey.

Also, perfection, under your own steam, is anathema to fundies. This relegates Jesus to another philosopher to follow.

Further, it removes those communist , prodigal son loopholes, where heaven is festival seating. Introducing a whole pecking order.

There are essential ordinances each of us must receive before we can live in the presence of God. These ordinances must be performed on this earth. This is what Mormon temples are for
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At first blush, sounding all militia, might be appealing to fundies. Envisioning Rambo Jesus might make them swoon. They might even be thankful to the Mormons for building them second amendment clocktowers.

Don't bother calling the FBI, most of them are Mormons.
Before you report them to Homeland Security, I think Ordinances, in this instance, are WORKS.

Folks, to fundies, this is crucifying Christ anew. Throwing baby Jesus out with the baptismal water.

Inside Mormon temples, people learn even more about their true relationship to God and what they must do in order to return to live in His presence
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So, this secret knowledge of the criteria God will use to stratify us in our duties, is hidden from all but perfected Mormons. As those are the only ones allowed inside.

This sounds like where Santorum got not wanting to have his boss as pres. As Willard is far advanced to us all.

This work must be done on this earth


They will control your persona, till you die.

but there are billions of people who have lived on this earth without the opportunity to hear of the gospel or to receive these ordinances
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Here is why they baptize you without your corpse's permission after death. Sorta like drafting them from their retirements, and told to get to work. Buncha welfare queens, getting ennui for free.


Most of Mormon temple work is done by proxy for those who died without this chance. This work is done for family members who did not receive a knowledge of the gospel in this life. Then, Mormons believe, they have the opportunity to choose (the eternal gift of free agency again) whether or not to accept this work
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So it does no good to use your spyhole in your front door, to elude the Mormons. They will prosletyze you in the grave. The redemptive work of Christ, is relegated to script kiddies using ancestry.com


Once a Latter-day Saint receives Mormon temple ordinances for him- or herself, each time he or she returns to the temple, this work can be done on the behalf of others. This is to prepare us for the next part of our eternal existence, of which our life on this earth is only a small part
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Folks, when he promises not to make color change part of his templizing the white house, it is of little comfort.

Mormon doctrine teaches that families are eternal units. We are meant to be together forever, but this blessing is only available if we follow the criteria the Lord has set.


This part here, is where they will put the fear of GOD into christians like Newt.

The power which seals a family together for eternity is only available in Mormon temples


Newt will be glad to hear about this loophole. Santorum will be glad that they made Mitt take fido off the roof, and that Mormons didnt take a cue from Shuler, and add a drive-in temple. It could have meant sanctified, man on dog.

The power which seals a family together for eternity is only available in Mormon temples, but it is truly one of the greatest blessings God has given us
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Here is the rebuttal to all those fundies that deem Mormon a johnny come lately religion. This here, is ancestor worship, and predates christianity by a fair margin.

While some of this was tongue in cheek, the social stratification of Mormonism, the phariseeism, the oh well, I will get a fresh planetism, the God favors me, talk to the handism, truly is dangerous.

BAN ALL FUNDIES FROM OFFICE.

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:41 PM

1. Jesus Christ vs. Joseph Smith. Battle Royale!

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:48 PM

2. This is a battle that will take place among the self-described "conservatives"

 

I say we let them destroy each other.

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:50 PM

3. I think this battle will go to great lengths to show where people really stand

Whether they stand on faith or politics and I think it's going to come down to politics. I think people will throw their faith aside to do what they can to oust Obama. 'Cause a quasi Christian is better than a Kenyan (Democrat), right?

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 14, 2012, 03:18 PM

4. Yep - many RW fundies have no difficulty in ignoring all the biblical 'help the poor' stuff

in favour of their preferred 'help yourself' philosophy. It's 'doublethink' - the ability to hold contradictory ideas at the same time, yet convince yourself you are consistent and pure. I think the vast majority of RWers will have no problem in backing a Mormon in preference to a President who has probably personally stuck closer to a 'standard Christian' ideal than any since Jimmy Carter.

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Sat Jan 14, 2012, 03:19 PM

5. Vote for traditional Christian values!!

Who would have thought that the Democrats could have such a weapon in the coming general election? If Mittens wins and they choose to use it. Obama the self professed "real" Christian against the warped bizarre cult follower Romney. It would be hilarious to see the reaction by the Baggers and FAUX News.

But the Dems never do use opportunities like that, do they?

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Sat Jan 14, 2012, 03:31 PM

6. You left out the most daming thing at least in my opinion.

Smith's speech known as King Follet's discourse where he claims that God was once a man and that men may become Gods. The fundies will not like that at all. They will probably call it blasphemy.

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Sat Jan 14, 2012, 03:44 PM

7. Mormonism seems to be just another religion.

They all promise rewards after death, but you have to be of their religion to take advantage of it. I hope they are not greedy as the evangelicals we see on the tee vee. Especially those who are trying to put a religious dictator in the office of the President. I want to throw up when I see a "pastor" of some cult tell us they want a president who will take away many of our rights just to please themselves. It is so blatant right now. That separation of church and state must have been sewn up. They give Christianity such a horrible name. And their thoughts are not religious, they are power hungry thugs.

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Response to asjr (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 14, 2012, 03:49 PM

8. All you need to know is: Those in Salt Lake City, that protested Cheney's speech, were shunned by th

 

the Mormons, and they worked hard to blackball FOR LIFE, all those students from employment by any Mormon headed firm. ALL of them. THAT, is what power does to a Mormon.

My company moved there, and I would have been at that protest. Therefore, blackballed.

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Response to WingDinger (Original post)

Sat Jan 14, 2012, 04:38 PM

9. Mormon's big lie: people can become a God.

In saying that people can become a God, the Mormon's repeat the original lie that Satan, aka the snake, told Eve in the Garden of Eden.

This is a big deal. Christian's believe in one God and people will never be a God.

Thus voting for Romney, is in essence, renouncing Christianity.

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Response to Democrats_win (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 14, 2012, 05:10 PM

10. On that subject, I feel the same as Groucho Marx.

 

I would join No God posse that would have me.

INDEED, the desire to be a GOD, and reign over your lessers, is CLASS WARFARE. OCCUPY TEMPLE.
thou shalt not covet the other Gods planets, nor their wives.


I can just hear it now.

GOD, clean up your planet. No abundance for you till you finish all your geneology. GOD, you never let me play with the other Gods. I hate you. I wish you had never made me. Besides, the universe is ALL YOUR FAULT.

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