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Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:03 AM

Yesterday I saw an article from Jezebel telling people NOT to donate to Planned Parenthood

Implying that all Planned Parenthood does is collect large sums of money, and does very little to help women.

That is a gross misrepresentation of the facts.

They advocate supporting independent abortion clinics, which is fine, but that they go out of their way to actively tell their readers NOT to support Planned Parenthood, implying that Planned Parenthood is some kind of nefarious organization is not only counterproductive, but makes me wonder if they have an alternative agenda.

https://jezebel.com/where-to-donate-abortion-access-roe-v-wade-1849053167


When on the same day Roe was overturned, they also wrote an article blaming Democrats for what happened, implying why should we vote for Democrats then? Not only is that a gross mischaracterization of the facts, it is a complete distortion of history and the facts.

https://jezebel.com/roe-is-dead-democrats-want-us-to-vote-for-what-exact-1849105474

This is a similar argument the Green Party used in 2000 and in 2016, and helped bring us to where we are today.

The best way to undo the damage is to elect enough Democrats in Congress so we have a majority of the Senate by at least two seats, and maintain the majority in the House in the midterms.

Since the conservatives on the SC have essentially become an ideological fold of the Republican Party, and not equitable arbitrators of civil rights, woman’s rights, worker’s rights, environmental right’s, etc., that more than justifies the expansion if the SC to balance things out, and the only way that realistically can happen is by voting for Democrats.


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Reply Yesterday I saw an article from Jezebel telling people NOT to donate to Planned Parenthood (Original post)
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niyad Jun 2022 #1
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betsuni Jun 2022 #44
txwhitedove Jun 2022 #65
betsuni Jun 2022 #67
Cha Jun 2022 #77
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WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #2
pnwmom Jun 2022 #25
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Hekate Jun 2022 #70
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Lars39 Jun 2022 #3
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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:06 AM

1. That is surprising and disturbing.

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:56 AM

33. Very!



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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:14 PM

44. Jezebel has hated Democrats for a long time.

Republicans are innocent victims of economic anxiety.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #44)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:59 PM

65. First clue, named Jezebel:

"The Jezebel Spirit term is often used to describe someone who uses cunning, deception, and seduction to tear apart entire marriages, churches, and other entities. Unlike many evil spirits, the Jezebel Spirit one operates in a more subtle and sinister way."

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Response to txwhitedove (Reply #65)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:06 PM

67. No, it used to be wonderful site, liberal feminist with interesting articles and hundreds of

comments, great community. Then the real writers all left and it's like someone's relative was hired and she hired all her friends and they never do any work. Can't spell, don't do any research, think hating Democrats makes them cool. Morons. Like "The Producers," the owners want the site to be terrible and fail, for some reason.

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Response to txwhitedove (Reply #65)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:04 PM

77. Yeah, I was thinking along those

lines.. TY for the Definition.

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Response to txwhitedove (Reply #65)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 07:30 PM

83. That's a quote from a site that should never be seen on DU

Please, take it down. The site has a banner "Crisis Pregnancy Centers Need Your Help NOW". That is a truly offensive thing to bring here.

If you want to know about Jezebel, it's a biblical name - a non-Jewish woman who married a Jewish king, and fought the Jewish faith.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jezebel-queen-of-Israel

It became a synonym for a wicked woman.

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:08 AM

2. Planned Parenthood does just fine with regular funding, and if people want their dollars to go

farther, donating to independent clinics, abortion funds or clinic escort funds is the way to go. Independent clinics treat more abortion patients than PP does.

Planned Parenthood is also working hard to bust unionizing efforts at some of its clinics, FWIW.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:45 AM

25. What is "regular funding"? It sounds like Jezebel is trying to cut their "regular funding."

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #25)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:54 AM

29. The majority of its funds come from Medicaid, Title X and private insurance reimbursements.

Private donations make up a relatively small amount of its funding, and as a result, individual donations don't go very far at scale. A $20 donation goes a lot farther when given to a local abortion fund than to PP or its foundation.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #29)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:29 PM

70. Who pays for the buildings in flames? Who pays for the maimed office staff & murdered doctors?

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Response to Hekate (Reply #70)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:31 PM

71. Where, at Planned Parenthood or independent clinics?

In either case, it's going to be private insurance, but PP certainly has deeper pockets and greater resources than independent clinics for such things.

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:09 AM

3. I posted that because there are other clinics that do abortions

that need the money. If PP doesn’t perform all abortions, then these other clinics need help, too.
I have nothing against Planned Parenthood. What beef do you have with the other clinics getting help?

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:45 AM

26. The beef appears to be an article telling people NOT to donate to PP. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #26)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:54 AM

30. So instead of catapulting the info about the other clinics,

he has chosen to make it about something else. I grabbed that article because I never really hear about any other organization that helps.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #30)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:09 PM

39. It was Jezabel that did that. Why tell people not to donate to PP, why not just tell people to

support independent clinics?

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #39)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:13 PM

43. Here are the links I thought were important...

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #43)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:19 PM

47. Excuse me. No where in my OP did I even mention this was posted by someone on DU. I specifically

addressed it as coming from Jezabel

and the links I posted were from Jezabel, NOT DU.



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Response to Lars39 (Reply #30)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:24 PM

50. The PP comments in the article were unnecessary, agreed.

But I agree with you... The other organizations pointed to in the article do a LOT of good and directly help women in need right now. Abortion funds and independent clinics are worthwhile and need help so they can continue to help. Whether or not one likes/reads/trusts Jezebel.com shouldn't reflect negatively on these organizations simply because their names were uttered by a writer at Jezebel.com. Damn, man, don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Bottom line for anyone and everyone: It's YOUR money. Give it to who YOU want and where YOU think it will do the most good. Or don't.

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Response to dixiechiken1 (Reply #50)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:27 PM

53. Did you mean to post this to JohnSJ?

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #53)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:41 PM

58. No, I actually meant to post it to you...

I saw your pre-edit post yesterday and thought it contained some GREAT resources. I was glad you posted it and set up a monthly donation to the Chicago Abortion Fund immediately after. (Misleading, IMO, since they serve the Midwest region, not just Chicago.) I already donate monthly to the Hope Clinic for Women in Southern IL and was looking for another way to help. So, while I didn't agree with their PP comments, I also don't agree that there was nothing of value just because it was Jezebel.com.

So, FWIW, I wanted you to know that *I* appreciated your post!

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Response to dixiechiken1 (Reply #58)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:49 PM

61. Thank you for gleaning what I did from the article.

I was surprised at all the different organizations out there helping.
DUs not a very forgiving place at times. Your words mean a lot to me.

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:13 AM

4. I've never been to Jezebel.

Not a very good first impression. I will always advocate for & donate to Planned Parenthood. And we need MORE dems in congress & state legislatures, not fewer.

Someone should send them this:



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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:28 AM

18. This is the fault of every person who stayed home in november 2016

or voted for Jill Stein.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:20 PM

48. It used to be a great liberal feminist site with a wonderful community of commenters.

Hundreds of comments and interesting articles. Then the writers left and they hired idiots who can't spell or do any research and all political articles bash Democrats. Few comments, i's a ghost town. What a shame.

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:20 AM

5. My limited funds

Will go to organizations that help people travel for abortions. If PP puts something like that together, I may give them my money. States like CT are gearing up to help women from other states, but CT is pretty far from TX. My efforts are going into making GOTV calls.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:02 AM

11. I already support Planned Parenthood, and I hope they will work with the Mexican government

to set up clinics in Mexico along the border with Texas. Many Texas women may seek abortions in Mexico, but there’s little way of knowing about the safety or whether they are getting the actual drugs for medication abortion instead of a fake.

Currently, New Mexico does not have enough clinics to handle the overflow from Texas, so more clinics could be established there closer to the Texas border.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:55 AM

31. Mexico isn't necessary- Reservations and National parks are likely more practical.

Hopefully Biden and Dept. Of Interior will issue some EO’s in the near future.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #31)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:58 PM

64. Mexico is very close to parts of Texas, though

When my brother lived near Tucson, he and his wife got dentistry in Mexico. It can be a tremendous resource if the Mexican people and government are willing to help.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #31)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 03:57 PM

76. #1 What is this "reservations" idea floating around*? Native Americans are supposed to help solve...

…. what is, frankly, a white people’s problem?** Out of what abundant resources we’ve endowed to them? Many such places are in poverty, with clinics barely scraping by — and we want them to be the conduit for our medical care? We want them to take in our poor, and shelter them, and with what funds — and to take on the murderous fanatics on our behalf?

Frankly, I think this is on us. It’s our responsibility. Our society created this clusterfck, and we have to clean it up.


* meaning I’ve now seen this idea more than once at DU since the news about Roe broke

** “white people” — meaning the society and the power structure of the US

#2 National Parks are NOT for building clinics that will attract fanatics who are armed and dangerous

With thanks to malaise, “let me make this pellucidly clear”: I myself am white, a 74 y.o. woman who has supported Planned Parenthood and their good works since I was about 20.



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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:50 AM

27. NY has done the same. Funds to cover

transportation and abortion fees for out of state women. Also, laws to protect doctors and patients from extradition for prosecution, and patient records from being released to prosecutors.

NY is also a long ways from states that are criminalizing abortions. Covering transportation costs should help some women in more distant states.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #27)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:11 PM

42. and I believe Newsom is trying to do that in California also

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #42)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:23 PM

49. I heard yesterday on NPR that

California, Oregon, and Washington are forming a "Pacific bloc" to protect abortion rights in the West. They will be accessible to nearby states from north to south in the West.

The Midwest and South will be the most vulnerable, cut off from blue states.

EDIT TO ADD: Depending on how elections go in PA, we here in NY might see an influx of women from
PA. NY and PA share a very long border.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #49)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:38 PM

56. That is an excellent and important strategy I think. Thanks

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Response to wnylib (Reply #49)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:43 PM

60. Illinois will hold strong.

Women can come here from everywhere in the Midwest. We are right in the middle of things.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #60)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:54 PM

63. But still a long trip even for women from Ohio.

So transportation assistance and places to stay before and after will be necessary. Financial assistance to cover costs.



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Response to wnylib (Reply #63)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:12 PM

68. I think it will come with the territory.

Women in Illinois will provide help. I remember doing that when I was in college, before Roe.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #27)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:00 PM

66. My sister worked on passage of a similar law in CT

She's very proud of her work. It involved allowing more medical practitioners to perform the procedure and blocking the release of reproductive health records.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:37 PM

73. Probably should contact them and ask. They are not new to this, after all. ...

When I was on one of local PP’s committees over 40 years ago, a lovely old gent was pointed out to me as a retired Episcopalian bishop who was a local hero of the pro-choice movement, because before Roe he was part of the network helping women get abortions. Underground Railroad.



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Response to Hekate (Reply #73)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 02:06 PM

74. I'm Episcopalian

Our rector organized a bunch of the women of the parish to write a statement to be read in church tomorrow. I'm kind of sorry he didn't include himself because he is royally pissed and he'd have good things to say.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #74)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:06 PM

78. Excellent. For many, many years I've recited a list of liberal denominations to DUers when things...

… get too overheated here on how all religions are the root cause of all evil. Just because American Evangelicals have gone off the deep end and are very noisy in the public sphere, does not make them the voice for everyone else of all religions.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #78)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 07:12 PM

82. Thanks.

We're reading Bishop Curry's statement tomorrow in church. We didn't have time to write anything better.

BTW, according to Jewish law, the mother's well-being comes first. The bastards are trampling on people's freedom of religion.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #82)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:29 PM

84. As my late MIL told me. I was very active opposing Randall Terry's "No Place To Hide" campaign

Didn’t want to talk about my activities with my elderly Viennese Jewish MIL for fear of giving offense. But when she pried it out of me she told me she didn’t even see the problem — she said something like, “You cut off the branch to save the tree.”

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:45 AM

6. Hear, Hear!

Voices telling us to act against our own self-interest, be it blaming Dems, not voting Dem, not supporting Planned Parenthood, etc, should be ignored, kicked to the curb. This is nothing more than gaslighting.

The power we have is through the vote, every vote, en masse at every election, every level.

As for blame? Let's forget blame for the moment. Let's think voting targets to prevent another social, economic, political disaster and/or the ruination of our Republic.

Top of the list?

That would be the Republican Party, the religious zealots and the deep-pocket donors fueling this insanity. Let's include anyone involved in the J6 insurrection and/or those still embracing the Big Lie. Let's beat them at the voting booth and ensure these suckers never hold public office again. Let's expose the billionaires behind the curtain, the shadowy groups that would transform the country into their own twisted image. Let's create a wave of righteous indignation, so huge that every single Republican candidate and those they're beholden to are washed into the deep blue sea.

Finally, let's ignore the voices that tell us this can't be done, that it's silly, unrealistic, statistically impossible.

Let's put our shoulders and anger and might behind it. Let's get it done! For ourselves and for the future.



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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:00 PM

35. +1000!!!

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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:27 PM

54. ...

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:50 AM

7. They funded the clinic for free care that I used in my first marriage.

It was my only source of healthcare for two of my pregnancies and post care. That article is pure undiluted Bullshit.

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:51 AM

8. The CYA talking points have gone out

DSA/Just Us "Democrats" (in quotes because their stated mission is to destroy the Democratic Party) are all over Twitter blaming Democrats, especially President Obama, for this.

Because sure, let's blame the first Black President instead of owning up to your own role in this.

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Response to mcar (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:00 AM

10. Blame Obama, but most of all blame Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Read so much crap from these enemies of the Democratic Party in the last 24 hours that I want to puke.

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Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:14 AM

15. I saw some of that yesterday

If RBG had retired under Obama, this wouldn't have happened. Most of it disappeared mysteriously.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #15)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:21 AM

16. This forum was flooded with such comments yesterday.

On a day when I was among the multitudes who felt heart-sick, reading such dreck was hard to take.

RBG was a hero. Shame on those who shit on her memory.

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Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:35 AM

23. Hers was one vote, she could not have stopped this.

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Response to TNNurse (Reply #23)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:56 AM

32. Well, she could have retired in 2013. Nt

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Response to TNNurse (Reply #23)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:16 PM

46. Exactly. That argument intentionally takes things out of historical context, and ignores McConnel

blocking President Obama’s SC nominee for over a year, and that we would still be short one seat if that happened

It was because of 2016 why we are where we are

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Response to Just A Box Of Rain (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:10 PM

40. But they never blame Republicans

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Response to mcar (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:26 PM

79. Exactly, mcar.. they're Projecting.. Not

taking Any Blame for their part in getting Roe VS Wade Overturned.. it's all the Dems Fault.

I appreciate that the OP is Exposing "Jezabel's" Gaslit hate.

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Response to Cha (Reply #79)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:45 PM

80. With the leaked opinion, they had time to get their talking points ready

and they sure are following them to the T.

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:59 AM

9. This OP brings up a nagging question for me. I've been an active member since 2008 with 5000 OPs..

.... so I might not have the history and experience to ferret out who is with us and who is generally not.

How often if ever do paid commenters with an agenda infiltrate the DU world.

This is a serious question because sometimes I struggle to figure out where an OP comes from.

Thanks for any input others might have.

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #9)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:12 AM

14. I engaged with one yesterday

As far as I know, the person is still here. I suspect it was a troll rather than a RWer, but it was not here to do good.

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #9)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:33 AM

20. If you ever get chance to serve on MIRT

you might spot some.

I started about 7 months before you (although I have almost 20 times the number of posts ) and recall the 2008 & 2012 primary wars (the latter just after we transitioned from DU2 to DU3) and it was so bad, I had an ignore list that was 5 pages long. Eventually I made it to a point of having no one on ignore just before the 2016 election as the vast majority were either PPRd, FFRd, or literally left the site en masse. Some were big on pushing both RT and even Sputnik News as "legit" sources. Others were Snowden and Assange fans as well as Jill Stein fans.

Some who had left have been trickling back in under new account names.

Despite that, I would estimate probably 95% of the people posting here are legit and the other 5% are either lone trolls (RW or otherwise), are part of troll farms or groups of disgruntled former DUers, or are paid trolls. When the jury system was put in place (and tweaked over time) with DU3, the trolls would often self-destruct - but only if people would be willing to alert on stuff that violated the TOS like spewing RW talking points, etc.

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #9)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:27 PM

55. I presented two links from an online publication which I thought were controversial

I did not think those links disparaging PP or the Democratic Party were helpful, but worthy of discussion, which is exactly the point I think you are making.


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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:10 AM

12. Follow the money. Like many news outlets, it's now owned by a private equity company

Jezebel was bought by Gawker, which was then bought by Gizmodo which went bankrupt in 2016. Then it was sold to Univision.

In April 2019, Gizmodo and The Onion were sold to private equity firm Great Hill Partners.

Great Hill Partners was formed in 1998 by Stephen F. Gormley, Christopher S. Gaffney and John G. Hayes.

In 2018 & 2020 Great Hill donated only to Democrats, but it was only a few donations and small dollar values.

In the 2022 cycle so far however, they've split their more significant political donations between Democrats & Republicans.

The primary founder Stephen Gormley, is a Republican who donates almost entirely to Republican committees and candidates.

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Response to NullTuples (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:27 AM

17. +1000 n/t

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Response to NullTuples (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:28 AM

19. Thanks for posting that!

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Response to NullTuples (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:02 PM

36. +1,000!

Ty for posting!

Why are wealthy Dems not buyimg up media? They k ow psy ops work!

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Response to NullTuples (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:41 PM

57. Wow, you have done your research

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:10 AM

13. I've not paid any attention to Jezebel in the past but this is bonkers!

So Jezebel wants us to listen to them? We need to stick together now more than ever before. There are going to be other attempts to divide us. This is just the beginning.

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:34 AM

21. Jezebel has sucked for a while now, I've ignored them.

I think they ran out of money to hire any writer who took a basic civics course!

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:35 AM

22. Sounds like Jill Stein is involved....

or others of her despicable ilk. At least republitrash are openly evil.

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:36 AM

24. blaming Democrats

That said everything I needed to hear about the leaders of this organization.

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:52 AM

28. If anyone on DU suggests voting against Dems or against electing Dems

They are probably not who they say they are and can be reported.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #28)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:04 PM

38. Absolutely!

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:58 AM

34. Thank you! I wanted to post about that horrible article but the last time I posted

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about Jezebel I was inundated with responses that it was a right-wing source. Their attacks on Democrats aren't from the right.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #34)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:43 PM

59. No, thank-you

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:10 PM

41. Not familiar w/Jezebel but I've always supported PP & donated to them -

they were there to provide well woman's exams & contraceptives when I was in college - and they would only charge if you were willing/able to pay. They are very good to students and anyone else who needs care. Still support them and always will. It's not pie - we can support both PP and independent clinics. I'd be suspicious of anyone saying to do otherwise.

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:14 PM

45. Yeah the shitty uninformed hit takes were flying yesterday.

Saw it at least once here.

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:24 PM

51. Misinformation at its finest. Planned Parenthood provides healthcare to poor women and other

women who don't have access to healthcare. They do more than provide reproductive healthcare. Planned Parenthood is invaluable asset in poor communities.

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:25 PM

52. I won't stop donating to Planned Parenthood.

I made two substantial donations this year so far and I will make another this coming week.

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:50 PM

62. Is Susan Sarandon on their editorial board? n/t

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 01:24 PM

69. TY, JohnSJ. I read the Jezebel article but in the horror of the day could think of no coherent reply

I have spent decades defending the comprehensive work of Planned Parenthood from right wingers — it is horrible to see the attack come from the left. Is this last season’s “Planned Parenthood is Establishment” trope rearing its ugly head? With added “moneygrubber”?

Jezebel could have promoted the work of other groups without mentioning PP. She could have given a boost to other groups without minimizing and even tearing down PP.

An organization that began over a century ago with its founder going to prison for teaching women how to avoid unplanned pregnancies, now finds itself once again just trying to survive.

The PP doctors, nurses, office staff, and escorts have been putting their own lives on the line in this war ever since Roe — they have been murdered, maimed, doxxed, and their children stalked to and from school by RW fanatics.

And somehow they are in it for the money?

I have to stop. Thank you, again.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #69)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 02:55 PM

75. Exactly. Why do they think denigrating PP is a good strategy to promote independent clinics

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Sat Jun 25, 2022, 04:52 PM

81. Planned Parenthood funds the LEGAL FIGHTS!

Do not forget this!

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Response to JohnSJ (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 08:32 PM

85. Odd.

I'm old and have no idea who or what Jezebel may be. But as a human being, family member, and retired social worker, I know of 100% satisfaction from all the people I know that have used Planned Parenthood's services. Every single one.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #85)

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 09:24 PM

86. +++

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