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kpete

(71,903 posts)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:32 AM Nov 2012

If Christie thought there was ANY chance in hell of Mitt winning the election, he would not have...

THU NOV 01, 2012 AT 07:23 AM PDT
Chris Christie is Sending Us a Message.
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If Chris Christie thought there was any chance in hell of Mitt winning the election, he would not have stated on Fox and Friends how little he cared about Romney's desire to get some political hay out of visiting the devastated New Jersey Shore. He was angrily dismissive of Steve Doucy's suggestion.

Christie would be hedging his bets a lot more if he thought Romney could win. The damage done by Hurricane Sandy in New Jersey will take years to rectify. Any hope of restoring the shore and protecting Northern Jersey from floods will require untold billions in Federal aid. Thousands of New Jersey citizens have lost there homes, and in many cases all their belongings. Hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Jersey businesses have been shut down and many will not be able to re-open for months.

So if Chris Christie thought there was any chance in hell of a Romney victory, he would be sucking up to the next President of the United States, even while he courted favor with the current occupant of the White House. This is very telling especially if you consider that, as a leading Romney surrogate, Christie would be aware of the internal polling coming out of Boston.

Please don't use this as an excuse to not GOTV. We still need all hands on deck, especially if we want to keep control of the Senate and seize controll of the House.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/01/1153597/-Chris-Christie-is-Sending-Us-a-Message

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If Christie thought there was ANY chance in hell of Mitt winning the election, he would not have... (Original Post) kpete Nov 2012 OP
I wonder what Romney did or said C_U_L8R Nov 2012 #1
I think very few people actually LIKE Mittens Myrina Nov 2012 #5
To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, hifiguy Nov 2012 #12
I think he's just being realistic Zambero Nov 2012 #6
Nope...he didn't want it, Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #8
It's that Mitt, if elected, would presumably be the GOP nominee in 2016. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #15
I think Romney's henchmen leaned on Christie the night before, really pissing him off about appacom Nov 2012 #17
Off to the greatest and I agree completely. Christie knows which side snappyturtle Nov 2012 #2
I know we don't like Christie justiceischeap Nov 2012 #3
I really think you got it exactly right, justiceischeap... WCGreen Nov 2012 #7
You nailed it. - eom fleur-de-lisa Nov 2012 #9
gotta agree with you trixie Nov 2012 #14
+1 As much as I dislike Christie I have no doubt SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #18
It is bigger than that exboyfil Nov 2012 #4
Nah, he's doing his job as governor of a state that was hit hard by a natural disaster. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #10
Gov. Christie is being realistic!!!!! mstinamotorcity2 Nov 2012 #11
Sorry, but it has to do with being human nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #13
No. It would have been political suicide to do anything other than what he has done so far. nt madinmaryland Nov 2012 #16

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
5. I think very few people actually LIKE Mittens
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:44 AM
Nov 2012

Most on the right tolerate him because he's at the top of their ticket. But as a human being, I think he's got a very short list of "friends".

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
12. To paraphrase Oscar Wilde,
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:11 AM
Nov 2012

Willard has no enemies, but all his friends detest him.

As for Christie, when your ass is headed for the mower blades you take any help you can get. I am sure that the President finds this ironic and amusing on some level.

Zambero

(8,954 posts)
6. I think he's just being realistic
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:44 AM
Nov 2012

At this point with Obama looking to be the likely winner, why suck up to Romney when it would make more sense to foster a working relationship with someone who is in a better position to assist with the rebuilding of your state?
Christie's first responsibility is to his constituency, and at this point he's looking ahead and not dwelling on partisan loyalties that might tend to placate the Tea Party element but do very little to help the people of New Jersey.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
8. Nope...he didn't want it,
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:47 AM
Nov 2012

he knew even then that Romney's chances were not good and VP candidates on losing tickets do not go on to become president...In fact only FDR went from being VP on a losing ticket to the WH.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,085 posts)
15. It's that Mitt, if elected, would presumably be the GOP nominee in 2016.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:15 AM
Nov 2012

And Christie took one look at himself in the mirror and told himself he's not waiting until 2020.

That, and while I cannot cannot stand the man's style and politics, I'm sure he has some genuine care for the citizens of his state and picking fights with the President would not help him in that respect. Don't forget the guy has to run for re-election as governor too.

appacom

(296 posts)
17. I think Romney's henchmen leaned on Christie the night before, really pissing him off about
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 05:55 PM
Nov 2012

the same dumb photo op shit. Romney probably got on the horn with a whole schedule of where they could go, and Christie went ape shit. After being up all night in Armageddon, he needed to vent and Douchie was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
2. Off to the greatest and I agree completely. Christie knows which side
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:40 AM
Nov 2012

of his bread is buttered. He got a win-win for himself and it helped us too!

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
3. I know we don't like Christie
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:41 AM
Nov 2012

at his best he's a nauseating blowhard but I think he love's his state and his state was just devastated. I think that effects people. If we're going to hypothesize my guess is Romney's people contacted him and instead of asking how his state was, they went straight to the photo opportunities for their candidate. I'd further guess that the first thing out of President Obama's mouth is, "How can I help?" or "What do you need?" I've met folks from Jersey... you don't ask the favor and not express concern and get away with it.

trixie

(867 posts)
14. gotta agree with you
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:14 AM
Nov 2012

I am actually quite taken with Gov Christie at the moment. Blowhard? Sure. Dedicated to his state? Absolutely!

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
18. +1 As much as I dislike Christie I have no doubt
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 05:59 PM
Nov 2012

he was sincere in his praise for Obama. I was in Nashville during the big flood there a few years ago and while people were out helping each other I noticed no one was asking what their political affiliation was. I helped Republicans and Democrats alike and Republicans and Democrats alike helped us.

When something bad like this happens most people see past the political football game, we stop being Republicans or Democrats and go back to being Americans.

exboyfil

(17,857 posts)
4. It is bigger than that
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 10:43 AM
Nov 2012

1. He administers the coup de gras to a political rival - Romney in White House no 2016 run for him
2. He sets himself up as the bipartisan non-crazy Republican
3. He gets first in line for consideration of aid (something Bloomberg should have thought about)

Romney should learn to never put potential candidates for the next presidential election cycle as surrogates in the first election cycle. On the other hand incumbents running have no such restriction (Obama could care less if Hillary Clinton, Andrew Cuomo, or someone else competent becomes president after him). Depending on how his second term goes, the Republicans could conceivably be running against two superb former presidents campaigning for the next nominee. That is a heck of a weapon. I just don't see W. campaigning in the next cycle (no We Won't Miss Him Yet). The eventual Republican nominee will only have a bench of also rans also longing for the presidential brass ring. It will be a repeat of 2012 in that regard.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
10. Nah, he's doing his job as governor of a state that was hit hard by a natural disaster.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:06 AM
Nov 2012

That includes working with Federal emergency responders and disaster relief agencies, and working with the President. Under the circumstances what's he going to say? "New Jersey doesn't need the Federal government, fuck off. And Obama is still a total failure as a leader!" He can't really say that without looking like a massive prick. And, honestly, there's no place for partisanship in this situation. I think the desire to ascribe his behaviour to political calculation is misguided.

mstinamotorcity2

(1,451 posts)
11. Gov. Christie is being realistic!!!!!
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:09 AM
Nov 2012

There is nothing Ex Governor Romney can give him right now. This Storm was a little more than that spare change in Ex Governor Romney's pocket. Its not like he can go to Walmart and buy a Shoreline. New Jersey is where Gov. Christie has grown up and lived his life. It is one thing to grow up and see developmental changes, but it is another to see complete and total devastation to a place you realize you truly LOVE more than any Political mantra. And if it means giving the President his KUDOS, then for the rebuilding of his State so be it. A very small price to pay for relief to hard hit families. Governor Christie is doing the right thing. He may be a big blow hard at times, but the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy is bigger than blowhard rhetoric. I would just like to say to our Community Organizer, You are truly an inspiration in Leadership!!!!!! And I am glad you know how to Organize the Community and FEMA response. Thank you for helping the survivors of Hurricane Sandy.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. Sorry, but it has to do with being human
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 11:13 AM
Nov 2012

And loving his state

This may very well be a life changing experience as well.

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