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Wed Jun 22, 2022, 08:03 PM

A gun bill is coming out of the Senate .. and President Biden is putting together a way to cut gas

bills during the high use times of the summer (Cutting federal taxes, and asking states to cut their gas taxes, its an idea to help) .. And to top it off.. Trump is starting to get his comeuppance from Republicans.. 60% of the nation thinks he should be held accountable for Jan. 6th attacks on Capitol..

We are moving in the right direction..

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Reply A gun bill is coming out of the Senate .. and President Biden is putting together a way to cut gas (Original post)
Peacetrain Wednesday OP
brooklynite Wednesday #1
Groundhawg Wednesday #2
Docreed2003 Wednesday #4
867-5309. Wednesday #3
budkin Wednesday #5

Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2022, 08:21 PM

1. Barack Obama objected to this tactic in 2008

CNN

In the spring of 2008, as gas prices were barreling towards record highs, presidential candidates John McCain and Hillary Clinton threw their weight behind a gas tax holiday.

Future president Barack Obama, by contrast, dismissed the idea as a political "gimmick" designed purely to win votes. "The easiest thing in the world for a politician to do is tell you exactly what you want to hear," Obama said in April 2008.


"Barack Obama was right. A gas tax holiday was a bad idea in 2008 and it's a bad idea today," Senator Bernie Sanders wrote on Twitter in March.

Like other progressives, Sanders instead threw his weight behind a windfall profit tax on the oil-and-gas industry, a potentially-popular move that carries its own set of risks.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 22, 2022, 08:48 PM

2. Obama was right not to support the idea.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:26 PM

4. Remind me again what gas prices were in 2008?

Is this a gimmick? Yes, and one that's largely going to have minimal impact and I agree with Sanders' prior statement about a windfall tax.

Here's the problem: a vast majority of people in this country have the mistaken belief that the President can impact gas prices. We live in a political climate now where the public is begging the administration to do something...anything to ease prices at the pump. Most of the US doesn't have the luxury of quality public transit and work commutes in gas powered vehicles are largely the main option. Mix in the right wing media apparatus that is all too willing to blame Biden for gas prices, inflation and anything else they can sling at him and you're sitting with this choice of a gas tax holiday for the simple reason of the optics that it looks like Biden is doing something.

Personally, I doubt this gas tax holiday will pass, and a windfall tax, while warranted, is likely to get zero support to pass.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:04 PM

3. Not excited about either, really

Gun bill is ridiculously weak and political cover for repugs. Gas tax suspension is just not smart.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Wed Jun 22, 2022, 09:33 PM

5. And his poll numbers are lower than they've ever been (39%)

Lower than even Trump's at this point in his tenure. November is not going to be pretty.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?cid=rrpromo

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