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OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:12 PM Jun 2022

How Heat Killed 2k Cows Today - Wet Bulb Conditions

Crib Note: If humidity & temperature are both above 80, double check for Wet Bulb warnings. Chart at first citation below. And why cows died today en masse. End

Quotes from articles &!links:


“With further progression of global warming, areas in more moderate climates including Southern Europe and the US will also experience more and more days with “red” or “black” conditions.

Wet Bulb Globe Temperature (WBGT)

If the combination of temperature and relative humidity reaches a certain level,

the body can no longer
cool down sufficiently
through sweating.

Especially when physically active, the body creates a lot of excess heat that can very quickly lead to heat stroke and death in bad WBGT conditions.

The following charts* show the danger of physical activity at different combinations of temperature and humidity.

See charts at link.

https://climate-preparedness.com/understanding-wet-bulb-temperature-and-why-it-is-so-dangerous/

2000 Kansas cows died this week from Wet Bulb Globe Temperature (WBGT)

“Heat, humidity kill at least 2,000 Kansas cattle, state says”

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/15/heat-humidity-kill-at-least-2000-kansas-cattle-state-says.html


If your that person who pushes through outdoor chores or a round of golf no matter, I hope you check out the WBGT. Or check in to make sure immobile neighbors are ok.

It’s summertime.

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How Heat Killed 2k Cows Today - Wet Bulb Conditions (Original Post) OhNo-Really Jun 2022 OP
Big deal here in Florida ornotna Jun 2022 #1
I never heard of Wet Bulb OhNo-Really Jun 2022 #2
The good old WGBT maxrandb Jun 2022 #3
"wet bulb" is basically another way to talk about humidity Takket Jun 2022 #6
Now imagine this hitting a major population center NickB79 Jun 2022 #4
I think it it already has OhNo-Really Jun 2022 #7
It's going to happen in parts of the US in the near future Kaleva Jun 2022 #8
80+ degrees and 80+ humidity? Polybius Jun 2022 #9
Here's a link to a chart that will help you Kaleva Jun 2022 #10
Another useful link Kaleva Jun 2022 #11
Some Irony: Most Likely Early Sites for Fatal Wet Bulb Extreme Temperatures are in the Persian Gulf. keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #5
And if you don't know what wet bulb is, check the dew point Novara Jun 2022 #12
Thank you Delphinus Jun 2022 #13

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
2. I never heard of Wet Bulb
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:25 PM
Jun 2022

But jogged a lot when visiting Florida in August one year. Oops.

I’m guessing lots of people are unaware of WBGT

And I’m sorry. Beautiful place but 😢

maxrandb

(15,777 posts)
3. The good old WGBT
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 10:58 PM
Jun 2022

Corpsman used these in the Navy. Worst I ever saw was off the coast of Namibia where the safe stay time in the Fire Room was 12 minutes.

Takket

(22,382 posts)
6. "wet bulb" is basically another way to talk about humidity
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 12:01 AM
Jun 2022

I think most people are essentially aware that "discomfort" increases as temperature AND humidity increase. The closer the wet bulb temperature is to the dry bulb (dry bulb being what you'll read if you stick a plain old thermometer in the air), the wetter the air is. If the wet and dry bulb temperature are the same, the air is saturated (100% humidity). The hotter air is, the more water vapor (humidity) it can hold, and as humidity increases, so does wet bulb temp.

NickB79

(19,507 posts)
4. Now imagine this hitting a major population center
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:10 PM
Jun 2022

Say, in India or Pakistan.

Hundreds of thousands would die in a matter of days.

It's going to happen, too. At 400+ ppm of CO2 and rising, it's inevitable.

Kaleva

(37,757 posts)
11. Another useful link
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 06:30 AM
Jun 2022
https://www.weather.gov/ama/heatindex

't surprises many people to learn that the heat index values in the chart above are for shady locations. If you are exposed to direct sunlight, the heat index value can be increased by up to 15°F. As shown in the table below, heat indices meeting or exceeding 103°F can lead to dangerous heat disorders with prolonged exposure and/or physical activity in the heat.'

keithbvadu2

(39,362 posts)
5. Some Irony: Most Likely Early Sites for Fatal Wet Bulb Extreme Temperatures are in the Persian Gulf.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:29 PM
Jun 2022
https://democraticunderground.com/1127152947

Some Irony: Most Likely Early Sites for Fatal Wet Bulb Extreme Temperatures are in the Persian Gulf.

Several charts and WBGT examples.

Novara

(6,070 posts)
12. And if you don't know what wet bulb is, check the dew point
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 06:53 AM
Jun 2022
Here's a handy site.

A good easy rule of thumb is that if the dew point is near the air temperature, it is damn humid and uncomfortable. And any dew points over 60 degrees F are uncomfortable. When the humidity is high, sweat doesn't evaporate and it doesn't cool you down.

Delphinus

(12,062 posts)
13. Thank you
Mon Jun 20, 2022, 08:10 AM
Jun 2022

I've been trying to learn about wet bulb and this information, along with what is in the thread, will help.

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