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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! FoxNewsSucks Jun 2022 #1
Say it ain't so!! JK. 😆 dchill Jun 2022 #2
This can be done to more women Effete Snob Jun 2022 #3
No shit. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #5
It has names of the originators Effete Snob Jun 2022 #9
Maybe jmowreader Jun 2022 #40
So the Lindsay Graham stuff is fair game? Effete Snob Jun 2022 #42
Absolutely. paleotn Jun 2022 #74
Not, it's not according to the owner of the site (EarlG). Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #100
WTF... AntiFascist Jun 2022 #179
No. This site is protecting its LGBTQI members. Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #183
I happen to be a gay man myself... AntiFascist Jun 2022 #185
I am not defending him - Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #189
I'm sorry but you must be misinterpreting my post... AntiFascist Jun 2022 #191
That's the rationalization everyone uses. Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #193
Rationalization everyone uses for what? AntiFascist Jun 2022 #202
No it is not and I cringe every time someone calls him she or Miss Lindsay. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #126
Here's something to cringe about... AntiFascist Jun 2022 #184
That is not how we beat Lindsey Graham. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #186
Maybe not, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy n/t AntiFascist Jun 2022 #187
These are the same people who took down Cawthorn. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 #89
Women are not the issue, the issue is the hypocrisy and Cancun Cruz's apparent infatuation. Alexander Of Assyria Jun 2022 #11
How many men have had abortions? Effete Snob Jun 2022 #17
Control of our reproductive rights is a tactic being used against women. blue neen Jun 2022 #54
How many adamant forced birthers have had abortions? paleotn Jun 2022 #72
We have gone after Men like Bob Barr and that weird looking Trump advisor JI7 Jun 2022 #198
I want to go somewhere where there's Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #28
There are more than those two Effete Snob Jun 2022 #37
My opinion is Stefanik is not in their league, Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #53
Absolutely. paleotn Jun 2022 #81
I guess I'm just fucking stupid Effete Snob Jun 2022 #110
Colorado is quite progressive. Boebert is an anamoly here. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #128
I know that. Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #131
To quote Mississippi Burning... lame54 Jun 2022 #56
Perfect analogy. paleotn Jun 2022 #79
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ msfiddlestix Jun 2022 #127
Ouch! calimary Jun 2022 #130
I would be careful here. madaboutharry Jun 2022 #4
It's only a violation if it's revealed by a medical professional. Mariana Jun 2022 #34
HIPAA laws prohibit people in the health care industry Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #51
It's NOT a HIPPA violation.... paleotn Jun 2022 #76
✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ msfiddlestix Jun 2022 #132
Wrong kcr Jun 2022 #103
Not wrong. madaboutharry Jun 2022 #118
There are opinions and then there are facts kcr Jun 2022 #122
If you are secretly gay and vote for laws that repress gay people then that should public ZonkerHarris Jun 2022 #172
If's not hypocrisy if she changed her mind Polybius Jun 2022 #174
Yes, it is. kcr Jun 2022 #176
So even if she lives until 90 she can never change her mind and be anti-abortion? Polybius Jun 2022 #177
She can change her mind all she wants kcr Jun 2022 #178
What if a Democrat in Congress had an AR-15 IN 2004, and votes to ban them this year? Polybius Jun 2022 #180
This is just getting silly kcr Jun 2022 #181
You're consistent, but I still respectfully disagree Polybius Jun 2022 #194
I'll just end by saying kcr Jun 2022 #195
I just wanted to find something that our side is usually against to make the hypocrisy point Polybius Jun 2022 #196
Point not made because they are different issues . It's like saying if it's ok to get an abortion JI7 Jun 2022 #199
It was made well, you just missed it Polybius Jun 2022 #200
Abortion and guns are not the same thing . Abortion involves control over one's own body/being JI7 Jun 2022 #201
No kidding Polybius Jun 2022 #210
Is there a legitimate source for this? n/t demmiblue Jun 2022 #6
how would they know this? call me skeptical. IcyPeas Jun 2022 #7
1st-Twitter. sarisataka Jun 2022 #8
After What She Wished for President Biden a Few Days Ago Tony_FLADEM Jun 2022 #14
Agreed in the dubious sourcing. Caliman73 Jun 2022 #24
Amen. rubbersole Jun 2022 #73
YEEEESSSSSSS!!! ☝️☝️☝️ dixiechiken1 Jun 2022 #78
Let me think about that...... paleotn Jun 2022 #77
NO Skittles Jun 2022 #112
D'accord sarisataka Jun 2022 #120
American Muckrakers PAC is legitimate VMA131Marine Jun 2022 #10
This is the same group that released the Madison Cawthorn videos. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #27
Adam Kinzinger Is Behind This Group Tony_FLADEM Jun 2022 #48
I didn't realize that. Thanks. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #52
How do you know that? wnylib Jun 2022 #80
He posted something on his twitter account Tony_FLADEM Jun 2022 #97
Because this is being done BEFORE the primaries Effete Snob Jun 2022 #144
Kinzinger started a PAC called Country First. crickets Jun 2022 #161
+1 Celerity Jun 2022 #188
I suspect you can't run for office as a Republican unless you are blackmailable Generic Brad Jun 2022 #93
Being blackmailable would also explain Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #136
Slippery slope!!! jmbar2 Jun 2022 #12
Not if Ted Cruz was the sugar daddy..LOL LeftInTX Jun 2022 #15
Oh gross. rogue emissary Jun 2022 #18
It might help get rid of him!! Voters tolerate Trump's amoral behavior, but won't tolerate Cruz's LeftInTX Jun 2022 #21
You do realize we're in a "gun fight" to preserve democracy. paleotn Jun 2022 #85
Then why publish this before the primary Effete Snob Jun 2022 #146
Wrong kcr Jun 2022 #105
Yes, only reason for criticism. Hypocrisy. Fla Dem Jun 2022 #121
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Jun 2022 #13
Note From FireBoebert.Com Team Brother Buzz Jun 2022 #23
Hard to suck in that beer belly Fullduplexxx Jun 2022 #26
Is that really her? Honestly she has never looked attractive to me. But I can see now that if that gldstwmn Jun 2022 #36
Looks like someone who Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #137
I remember one night David Letterman Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #138
I so do not care what Boebart does/did with her own body but I do abhor the hypocrisy of it efhmc Jun 2022 #16
Same here Rebl2 Jun 2022 #95
I think the "moral" of this story is not about sexual prostitution... dchill Jun 2022 #19
+1. The Cancun connoisseur dalton99a Jun 2022 #31
"Won't someone think of her feelings!111" BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #20
+1 dalton99a Jun 2022 #22
LOL Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2022 #70
I'm not sure this sinks her. Trump admitted to grabbing womens' genitals without consent. NCLefty Jun 2022 #25
Abortions sink Conservative women, same as gayness sinks men. sir pball Jun 2022 #38
Her fans will just refuse to believe it. nt. Mariana Jun 2022 #116
Maybe not in Colorado. LeftInTX Jun 2022 #129
You may be right. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #49
The party of "family values" strikes again IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #29
She will just say ("God told me he forgives me") bluestarone Jun 2022 #30
If true. I don't care. KentuckyWoman Jun 2022 #32
Whoa! Trump fans in a tizzy over this one. Kingofalldems Jun 2022 #33
When I see people essentially defending that lousy GQP, it reminds me Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2022 #62
What you're seeing is the lack of Will to fight like they do BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #212
I can't be mad at her for either of those things honestly. I understand people are trying to get gldstwmn Jun 2022 #35
Did you feel the same way about Muckrakers outing Cawthorn? sir pball Jun 2022 #45
I think you mean persecute? I was not interested gldstwmn Jun 2022 #59
No, I mean prosecute. sir pball Jun 2022 #71
Lol. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #83
Your eloquence and wit here is legendary. LOL Quixote1818 Jun 2022 #119
Yes because the republic is going to be saved by outing the hypocrisy of Lauren Boebert. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #134
If it turns her supporters against her, which I believe it will sir pball Jun 2022 #139
Then they will vote for a different Republican Effete Snob Jun 2022 #149
The point that is being made is her blatant hypocrisy is on display, nothing more. Cozmo Jun 2022 #88
A woman who wants to take away the right to abortion Wingus Dingus Jun 2022 #39
Precisely. dalton99a Jun 2022 #41
What if she changed her mind for the worst? Polybius Jun 2022 #175
So you decided it was not her choice? alphafemale Jun 2022 #43
Nothing about that woman should be respected. sir pball Jun 2022 #46
So her freedom of choice should not be respected and her abortions should be shamed? alphafemale Jun 2022 #57
When she respects others' freedom of choice I will respect hers. sir pball Jun 2022 #67
So her supporters who want to restrict all rights to abortion Diablo del sol Jun 2022 #90
HIPAA only applies to medical personnel. Mariana Jun 2022 #114
Does she support abortion rights for others ? If not then her hypocrisy should JI7 Jun 2022 #123
Such a promising career. Kid Berwyn Jun 2022 #44
Who gives a shit? She's a toxic dangerous rep no matter what she's done. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #47
Nah, people on a roll here. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #50
No MoRe pLaYiNg NiCe!!1!!!!!111111111!! WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #55
Lol, well done. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #60
Thank you! Nt XanaDUer2 Jun 2022 #58
I've been here a long time, but wow, not much sure how much longer. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #61
I saw the 400-lb thread XanaDUer2 Jun 2022 #65
Ah, I leave, but always come back. Many, many good people here. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #82
Awww XanaDUer2 Jun 2022 #84
That's really nothing new. TwilightZone Jun 2022 #68
Boebert owns a Restaurant and is a member of Congress . You attack Meghan Markle JI7 Jun 2022 #182
K&R Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2022 #63
Kick this thread all night long. Kingofalldems Jun 2022 #64
So did Cruz sleep with her? Kingofalldems Jun 2022 #66
Well, he got her 126K for something n/t Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2022 #69
After fervent prayer dalton99a Jun 2022 #75
An old saying about bears, poo and woods comes to mind. paleotn Jun 2022 #86
I don't understand the concern for MS Boebert. Here's a woman who kacekwl Jun 2022 #87
I don't like to see abortion used as a litmus test for character Marthe48 Jun 2022 #91
Abortion isn't being used as a litmus test for character. Mariana Jun 2022 #111
WTF? Joinfortmill Jun 2022 #92
Won't make a lick of difference to her kkkultists Orrex Jun 2022 #94
These are the special people. Mr. Evil Jun 2022 #96
Let's not discriminate against sex workers and people who have sought abortion care. n/t KatK Jun 2022 #98
pLEASE TELl me its not an Onion article! nvme Jun 2022 #99
I don't like this content on DU. MineralMan Jun 2022 #101
Too bad kcr Jun 2022 #106
I'm posting my opinion. MineralMan Jun 2022 #108
Same goes for those pointing out hypocricy kcr Jun 2022 #113
Why do you want to keep the seat R? Effete Snob Jun 2022 #148
How is that even a little bit relevant? kcr Jun 2022 #151
No one is defending her Effete Snob Jun 2022 #153
The attempts to shame those pointing out her hypocricy kcr Jun 2022 #154
This was designed to help Republicans Effete Snob Jun 2022 #155
Are you trying to imply that pro choice Dems kcr Jun 2022 #157
I suppose perhaps we may get a less evil repub? CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #163
Like...? Effete Snob Jun 2022 #165
Maybe but as you say this is a republican going after her. CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #168
Also there were more than two willing to join J6 CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #169
Thank you. I am getting a whiff of toxic masculinity in this thread. Do better DU. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #142
Thank you jmbar2 Jun 2022 #160
Her Hypocrisy is fair game. CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #164
Maybe this is egregious behavior to her voters ZonkerHarris Jun 2022 #170
If everyone laid their cards on the table... multigraincracker Jun 2022 #102
DU: Zeitghost Jun 2022 #104
Yup. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #143
I'm waiting... appmanga Jun 2022 #107
If this is factual and verifiable, it is absolutely fine harumph Jun 2022 #109
Agreed MustLoveBeagles Jun 2022 #115
Yep, if Republicans can jump all over Al Gore for flying in a jet and contributing to climate change Quixote1818 Jun 2022 #125
She gives "Whoring for the Kochs" not fooled Jun 2022 #117
Yes let's all just take this opportunity to have a resounding go at the whores. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #147
Let's remember that sex work is legitimate work Tarc Jun 2022 #124
She was refered to as an "unlicensed" escort. Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #133
"Legitimate" as in it is real work and should be respected Tarc Jun 2022 #140
Would you respect a school bus driver's work Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #145
Do you think mothers are legitimate? gldstwmn Jun 2022 #150
Stupid question completely irrelevant Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #152
It is also a job for which there is no license and it is legitimate work. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #156
Presumably there is a need for a license. CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #167
A woman doesn't need a license to fuck, bro Tarc Jun 2022 #205
She needs one in the state of Colorado to be an escort. Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #209
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2022 #135
If true it is the most benign and human Bettie Jun 2022 #141
The tweet has been deleted. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #158
I'm suspicious of this story UnderThisLaw Jun 2022 #159
It's the hypocrisy that gets to me. GRR crickets Jun 2022 #162
Boe vs. Wade Blue Owl Jun 2022 #166
Evidently her husband did jail time for indecent exposure iemanja Jun 2022 #171
He did do jail time for indecent exposure but the Antifa part is satire. femmedem Jun 2022 #204
Ah, ok iemanja Jun 2022 #206
Here is a tweet from the same source of this info: gldstwmn Jun 2022 #173
I don't think anyone is confused as to who American Muckraker PAC is. herding cats Jun 2022 #190
Wow. When Republicans go after their own they don't hold back. herding cats Jun 2022 #192
I was nearly certain that I saw Lauren Boebert on PornHub two months ago Polybius Jun 2022 #197
Not even close... PCIntern Jun 2022 #203
I did a search for Lauren Boebert Dava Foxx Polybius Jun 2022 #211
She must of sucked at that also. She's no politician. nt Hotler Jun 2022 #207
Keep on kickin' this one. Kingofalldems Jun 2022 #208
So if true she's both a prostitute (whore) and a hypocrite. BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #213

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
1. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:20 PM
Jun 2022

I can't wait for them to rid us of Boobert, so they can go after Gaetz, TraitorGreene and Jordan.

dchill

(38,465 posts)
2. Say it ain't so!! JK. 😆
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:22 PM
Jun 2022
 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
3. This can be done to more women
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:22 PM
Jun 2022

If this is where we want to go.
 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
5. No shit.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:26 PM
Jun 2022

And why do we believe this tweet anyway?

Why do people even believe crap people put on Twitter? It blows my mind.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
9. It has names of the originators
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:30 PM
Jun 2022

This is not from an anonymous speaker, but from an identified publisher who, for what it’s worth, is open to legal liability.

But, while I get the hypocrisy, this is the ultimate in slut shaming.

jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
40. Maybe
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:27 PM
Jun 2022

The issue is Boebert has decided she knows how the rest of us should live.

A long time ago Guy Kawasaki wrote a book in which he described Jean-Louis Gassee: he’s like the uncle who tells you not to smoke or drink because he has a cough and a hangover. That describes Boebert well.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
42. So the Lindsay Graham stuff is fair game?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:28 PM
Jun 2022

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
74. Absolutely.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:05 PM
Jun 2022

Ms. Toad

(34,059 posts)
100. Not, it's not according to the owner of the site (EarlG).
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:43 PM
Jun 2022
While I'm on the subject, please knock off the "Lindsey Graham is gay/a woman" jokes. Most of you have figured this out by now, and DU Juries actually have a pretty solid track record of removing these posts, but you know what would be even better? If we didn't have to send such bigoted "jokes" to Juries in the first place.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215969127

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
179. WTF...
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:27 AM
Jun 2022

so now this site is protecting anyone who happens to be in Congress, no matter if they are Republican???

Homophobic jokes should be off limits, but anything a paid escort may have said about Lindsay Graham should not be, including the Lady Bug thing! Je Proteste!

Ms. Toad

(34,059 posts)
183. No. This site is protecting its LGBTQI members.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:48 AM
Jun 2022

You bash us everytime you misgender anyone, use gay as an insult, slut shame anyone, shame them about abortions, etd. regardless of who your target is.

Everytime you use characteristics which define us to trash someone, you are telling us exactly what you think about us. We're tired of being used as battering rams. Look at how many recommendations that thread had. You can't batter your target without bruising those of us whose lives are being used as weapons. And it's against the site rules.

Find another way to attack Repuiblicans which does make us collateral damage.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
185. I happen to be a gay man myself...
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:53 AM
Jun 2022

and the only one I am bashing is a closeted gay Republican who has consistently voted against the LGBTQI community. Are you defending him?

Ms. Toad

(34,059 posts)
189. I am not defending him -
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 01:00 AM
Jun 2022

I am just sick to death of being used as a battering ram. I have seen far too many LGBTQI children near suicide because they hear their friends, parents, teachers, church, etc. repeatedly use gay as an insult, or misgender people to imply they don't conform to gender norms.

The fact that your subjective intent to insult someone else does not alter the impact on people who hear that what you believe is that they are trash, not manly enough, not womanly enough, etc.

Whether you, personally, are insujlted by it is irrelevant. I am, as are many other LGBT members (both those still here, and those who have just given up because of all the homophobic/transphobic insults). I linked you to the post from EarlG which clearly tells you that you need to take that trash elsewhere.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
191. I'm sorry but you must be misinterpreting my post...
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 01:05 AM
Jun 2022

I'm not criticizing Graham for being gay, hell, we could use more LGBTQ+ congresspeople. I'm criticizing him for being a HYPOCRITE.

Ms. Toad

(34,059 posts)
193. That's the rationalization everyone uses.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 01:12 AM
Jun 2022

but that does not change how it is perceived by LGBTQI people who hear you insulting Graham by using a woman's name to insult him, or call him gay to insult him.

Take it somewhere else, or take it up with EarlG if you don't like it.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
202. Rationalization everyone uses for what?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:09 AM
Jun 2022

Your post doesn't make any sense. Lady Bug is the name of an insect, not a woman's name. I think you are referring to other peoples' posts, not mine.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
126. No it is not and I cringe every time someone calls him she or Miss Lindsay.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:31 PM
Jun 2022

It ain't cute.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
184. Here's something to cringe about...
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:50 AM
Jun 2022

On June 4th, 2020, adult film actor Sean Harding[1] tweeted, "There is a homophobic republican senator who is no better than Trump who keeps passing legislation that is damaging to the lgbt and minority communities. Every sex worker I know has been hired by this man. Wondering if enough of us spoke out if that could get him out of office?" and "I cannot do this alone. If you’d be willing to stand with me against LG please let me know." Lindsey Graham is the only senator with the initials L.G.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/lindsey-graham-lady-g-rumor

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
186. That is not how we beat Lindsey Graham.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:53 AM
Jun 2022

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
187. Maybe not, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy n/t
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:59 AM
Jun 2022

Fiendish Thingy

(15,568 posts)
89. These are the same people who took down Cawthorn. Nt
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:21 PM
Jun 2022
 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
11. Women are not the issue, the issue is the hypocrisy and Cancun Cruz's apparent infatuation.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:33 PM
Jun 2022
 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
17. How many men have had abortions?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:42 PM
Jun 2022

This is a tactic which can uniquely be used against women.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
54. Control of our reproductive rights is a tactic being used against women.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:44 PM
Jun 2022

The Republicans in some states have discussed tracking women's periods so they'll know if a pregnancy occurs, to make sure those women can't seek abortions. They also want to make sure women don't cross state lines to obtain an abortion, which is, in real essence, stalking.

Lauren Boebert was apparently able to access healthcare when she needed it, something she would deny other women.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
72. How many adamant forced birthers have had abortions?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:04 PM
Jun 2022

That's what I want to know. Seems there's a word associated with that....it's right on the tip of my tongue...hypo...umm...hypo...,hypocrisy. That's it!

And yes, I want the Democratic Party to go there. As the old saying goes, bring guns to gun fights, not butter knives.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
198. We have gone after Men like Bob Barr and that weird looking Trump advisor
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 02:09 AM
Jun 2022

who have told the women they got pregnant to get an abortion . Or even people like McCain who opposed abortion but when asked about his own daughter he said he would support whatever they decided to do .

Mr.Bill

(24,271 posts)
28. I want to go somewhere where there's
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:11 PM
Jun 2022

no Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor-Green in Congress.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
37. There are more than those two
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:23 PM
Jun 2022

Are those the only two?

How about a look at what’s been going on between Elise Stefanik’s legs?

She’s also fair game, right?

Mr.Bill

(24,271 posts)
53. My opinion is Stefanik is not in their league,
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:39 PM
Jun 2022

but she's working on it.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
81. Absolutely.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:10 PM
Jun 2022

What is it about hypocrisy and "morality" is for the little people that you don't quite understand??

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
110. I guess I'm just fucking stupid
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:57 PM
Jun 2022

Is that your point?

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
128. Colorado is quite progressive. Boebert is an anamoly here.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:35 PM
Jun 2022

Mr.Bill

(24,271 posts)
131. I know that.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:43 PM
Jun 2022

I hear she didn't win by much. Hopefully her stay in Cingress will be brief.

lame54

(35,281 posts)
56. To quote Mississippi Burning...
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:45 PM
Jun 2022

Ward: Just don't lose sight of whose rights you're violating
Anderson: Don't put me on your perch, Mr. Ward
Ward: Don't drag me into your gutter, Mr. Anderson
Anderson: These people crawled out of the sewer, Mr. Ward. Maybe the gutter is where we ought to be

https://clip.cafe/mississippi-burning-1988/dont-put-on-perch/

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
79. Perfect analogy.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:09 PM
Jun 2022

msfiddlestix

(7,275 posts)
127. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:33 PM
Jun 2022

calimary

(81,193 posts)
130. Ouch!
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:41 PM
Jun 2022

madaboutharry

(40,203 posts)
4. I would be careful here.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:24 PM
Jun 2022

This seems rather dubious to me.

Most of all, I don’t care if she is a hypocrite. Revealing private medical information is a violation of a person’s privacy, a violation of federal law, and always wrong.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
34. It's only a violation if it's revealed by a medical professional.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:20 PM
Jun 2022

If Boebert told a friend or a relative or a stranger in a bar that she had two abortions, that person is free to repeat what she told them. If someone wants privacy about their medical decisions, they shouldn't blab about them to anyone who isn't bound by HIPAA.

I do agree that no evidence has been provided that she had two abortions, so it would be foolish to believe that particular assertion at this time. It shouldn't be too difficult to verify some of the other claims, if they are true.

Mr.Bill

(24,271 posts)
51. HIPAA laws prohibit people in the health care industry
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:38 PM
Jun 2022

from revealing medical information. It doesn't apply to ordinary citizens. That's probably why they are not naming their source. If that source works where the abortions took place, yes they are in trouble. But if their source is a friend she told about it back when it happened, or even recently, they are in the clear.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
76. It's NOT a HIPPA violation....
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:07 PM
Jun 2022

Dear god, folks. That only applies to healthcare providers. Geeez.

msfiddlestix

(7,275 posts)
132. ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:45 PM
Jun 2022


sick to death of this ridiculous assertion. My apartment manager has attempted to use that in all sorts of equally ridiculous scenarios.

I finally sat her down to make it real clear that if she's on a drunken binge out in the public and she falls flat on her face on a public sidewalk, people including residents have the right to identify/describe that condition for what it obviously is. And they are completely within their rights to share it with others. It is not a violation of HIIPA/HIPPA in anyway shape or form.

She gets in now, after attempting to evict a resident for sharing what happened in plain site.

I'm surprised she still has her job.


kcr

(15,315 posts)
103. Wrong
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:50 PM
Jun 2022

If it's true, it is absolutely in bounds to point out the hypocrisy. It's only a violation if a medical professional discloses it.

madaboutharry

(40,203 posts)
118. Not wrong.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:11 PM
Jun 2022

We just have a different opinion.

If it didn’t come from a medical provider then of course HIPAA doesn’t apply. What that means is someone betrayed her privacy.

Yes, she could be a hypocrite, but the line walked here is thin. Calling out any woman for having an abortion might be territory pro-choice advocates need to avoid. It’s an opinion.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
122. There are opinions and then there are facts
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:17 PM
Jun 2022

No one is doing anything illegal here, and it is ludicrous to suggest otherwise. That is a fact.

ZonkerHarris

(24,218 posts)
172. If you are secretly gay and vote for laws that repress gay people then that should public
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 11:28 PM
Jun 2022

If you had abortions and vote to remove legal abortion from women then maybe the public should know

Polybius

(15,372 posts)
174. If's not hypocrisy if she changed her mind
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:09 AM
Jun 2022

She could have been pro-choice at 18, then got more political as the years went on and became anti-abortion. Lord knows my views changed since I've been 18.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
176. Yes, it is.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:16 AM
Jun 2022

She is actively trying to deny women a right she had no problem exercising herself. That is what hypocrisy is. I'm sure most hypocrites feel entirely justified in their hypocrisy, no doubt.

Polybius

(15,372 posts)
177. So even if she lives until 90 she can never change her mind and be anti-abortion?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:22 AM
Jun 2022

Sorry, that's not what hypocrisy is. Hypocrisy is if she had an abortion last month, while actively trying to make it illegal. Not if she had one (or two) at 18.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
178. She can change her mind all she wants
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:23 AM
Jun 2022

But it doesn't change the fact she's trying to take a right away a right for others that she herself chose. It would be one thing if she'd been open about that and explained that she changed her mind. But she didn't, did she? She chose to be a hypocrite instead.

Polybius

(15,372 posts)
180. What if a Democrat in Congress had an AR-15 IN 2004, and votes to ban them this year?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:28 AM
Jun 2022

Is that Democrat a hypocrite? You have to be consistent, or risk hypocrisy yourself.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
181. This is just getting silly
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:32 AM
Jun 2022

But, fine. If said Democrat had an AR-15 but didn't disclose it while voting to ban AR-15s, then yes. They would be a hypocrite. Because that's what that word means.

Polybius

(15,372 posts)
194. You're consistent, but I still respectfully disagree
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 01:15 AM
Jun 2022

So if she disclosed her 2005 abortion(s) it wouldn't be hypocrisy if she voted to ban them in 2022?


We don't see eye to eye, but that's fine. How I view it:

If a Democrat legally had an AR-15 IN 2005, I don't think that he or she should have to tell us. Perhaps the mass shootings changed his or her mind.

Glad to debate you though, even though we don't agree.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
195. I'll just end by saying
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 01:39 AM
Jun 2022

That it's mighty interesting you're equating gun ownership with the right to abortion. I'm sure that's no acccident.

Polybius

(15,372 posts)
196. I just wanted to find something that our side is usually against to make the hypocrisy point
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 01:45 AM
Jun 2022

The AWB is something most of us support, while banning abortion is something most Republicans in Congress support. You were consistent and not a hypocrite, so I can't argue with you, even if we disagree.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
199. Point not made because they are different issues . It's like saying if it's ok to get an abortion
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 02:14 AM
Jun 2022

for teenagers then it should be ok to get guns .

Polybius

(15,372 posts)
200. It was made well, you just missed it
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 02:31 AM
Jun 2022

If you do (or own something) at 18, is it ok to take want to outlaw that very thing you did (abortion or own an AK) 17 years later? IMO, it doesn't make you a hypocrite if you owned an AK and now want to ban them, or had an abortion and now want to ban them.

But that's ok, some agree, some don't. You should have seen me at 18.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
201. Abortion and guns are not the same thing . Abortion involves control over one's own body/being
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 02:39 AM
Jun 2022

As for if one had a gun when they were young and oppose it now they can explain it.

And Boebert herself can explain her position also but she is just a typical right wing asshole that makes abortion a political issue for political gain . But she should be asked if there should be a statute of limitations on being charged for getting an abortion .

Polybius

(15,372 posts)
210. No kidding
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:59 PM
Jun 2022

Two topics were compared for hypocrisy as regards to bans.

demmiblue

(36,838 posts)
6. Is there a legitimate source for this? n/t
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:29 PM
Jun 2022

IcyPeas

(21,856 posts)
7. how would they know this? call me skeptical.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:29 PM
Jun 2022

sarisataka

(18,570 posts)
8. 1st-Twitter.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:30 PM
Jun 2022

2nd-if it was true does that mean it is OK to shame her for having been a sex worker who had abortions?

Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
14. After What She Wished for President Biden a Few Days Ago
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:36 PM
Jun 2022

Caliman73

(11,728 posts)
24. Agreed in the dubious sourcing.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:00 PM
Jun 2022

I also understand the concern over shaming her for being a sex worker and for having abortions, but it isn't about that. I have no problem with anyone doing sex work. It is work, and if you are conscientious and fair in your work, there is no stigma in my book. Abortions are a private choice and private matter.

I have a problem when people look down upon others and try to impose their own twisted morality through legislation and are hypocrites. The shame is in the hypocrisy not the actions she undertook earlier. I would have more respect for her if she was open about her issues and had some respect for the choices of other people. She doesn't. She is cruel and she is a grifter. For that she should always be shamed.

I actually don't even care if this turns out to be true or not. Boebert is as despicable as you can get regardless of this potential revelation.

rubbersole

(6,684 posts)
73. Amen.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:04 PM
Jun 2022

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
78. YEEEESSSSSSS!!! ☝️☝️☝️
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:09 PM
Jun 2022

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
77. Let me think about that......
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:08 PM
Jun 2022

...........YES!!!!! One reaps what one sows. That's biblical ya know.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
112. NO
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:59 PM
Jun 2022

it's OK to shame her for pimping for the party that is anti-choice and routinely judges the morals of others

sarisataka

(18,570 posts)
120. D'accord
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:13 PM
Jun 2022

If only the headline had something to do with hypocrisy

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
27. This is the same group that released the Madison Cawthorn videos.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:08 PM
Jun 2022

Open Secrets lists them as being "Liberal," but i am not convinced this is the case. From various things I have read, it sounds more like they're Republicans who want to rid their party of those who make them look bad. After taking out Cawthorn, they said they're coming after Boebert next. Looks like they kept their word on that.

Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
48. Adam Kinzinger Is Behind This Group
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:35 PM
Jun 2022

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
52. I didn't realize that. Thanks.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:39 PM
Jun 2022

So, yeah. It is Republicans eating their own.

wnylib

(21,420 posts)
80. How do you know that?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:09 PM
Jun 2022

Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
97. He posted something on his twitter account
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:39 PM
Jun 2022

stating that his PAC went after Cawthorn.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
144. Because this is being done BEFORE the primaries
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:07 PM
Jun 2022

This is being done to help another Republican win.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
161. Kinzinger started a PAC called Country First.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:36 PM
Jun 2022

Celerity

(43,272 posts)
188. +1
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:59 AM
Jun 2022

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
93. I suspect you can't run for office as a Republican unless you are blackmailable
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:27 PM
Jun 2022

That brings with it mutually assured self destruction provided the people that got the blackmailable person into the fold was being honest about their stuff. I could see firebrand extremists easily succumbing to a trap like this.

Mr.Bill

(24,271 posts)
136. Being blackmailable would also explain
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:53 PM
Jun 2022

some of the bizarre behavior and loyalties of some of the republicans. I've long said there is a lot of blackmail and/or bribery going on in that party, probably plenty of both.

jmbar2

(4,870 posts)
12. Slippery slope!!!
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:33 PM
Jun 2022

Publicly doxing women for abortions, rumored or real, is just wrong.

LeftInTX

(25,219 posts)
15. Not if Ted Cruz was the sugar daddy..LOL
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:37 PM
Jun 2022

rogue emissary

(3,148 posts)
18. Oh gross.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:45 PM
Jun 2022

LeftInTX

(25,219 posts)
21. It might help get rid of him!! Voters tolerate Trump's amoral behavior, but won't tolerate Cruz's
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:52 PM
Jun 2022

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
85. You do realize we're in a "gun fight" to preserve democracy.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:15 PM
Jun 2022

Maybe we can just pat ourselves on the back about how upright and moral we were after the fascists take over our government. Not me. I'd rather kick them between the proverbial legs. I'll deal with the morality of these actions after the bastards are destroyed.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
146. Then why publish this before the primary
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:09 PM
Jun 2022

Are we that dumb?

This will help a different Republican.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
105. Wrong
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:51 PM
Jun 2022

It is vital to point out their hypocrisy.

Fla Dem

(23,637 posts)
121. Yes, only reason for criticism. Hypocrisy.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:17 PM
Jun 2022

Her “Do as I say, not as I do”.

Response to Tony_FLADEM (Original post)

Brother Buzz

(36,410 posts)
23. Note From FireBoebert.Com Team
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:54 PM
Jun 2022
This is all American Muckrakers PAC, making good on their promise



Note From FireBoebert.Com Team


We make no judgement about Boebert's abortions. That is her right as a woman in Colorado.



However, we are reporting on the unbelievable hypocrisy of her railing against women that want that same right. Boebert has consistently been against woman in Colorado and the entire country having the same rights to make their own healthcare decisions.



In addition, we don't take a position about the propriety of being a paid escort and respect any men or women that choose this career. However, escorts are regulated in Colorado and must register under state law. We have searched and requested to see her registration without success. If Boebert has an escort registration we will correct our story and apologize to Boebert. However, we aren't holding our breath.



Finally, no one at Planned Parenthood or any other medical practice anywhere provided Boebert's medical records or violated HIPAA rules. We did not consult with or receive any tips from any medical providers, staff, admins, technicians, etc. Nor did we hack or receive any medical records or obtain any information in such a way that would violate any Colorado or U.S. laws. We have never seen any of Boebert's medical records.



All the facts came from a source we trust and others on our team know. We verified the abortion claims with another source. We stand by our story. We've not seen nor heard anything that would refute our allegations. If we do, we'll let you know.

....................................


American Muckrakers PAC, Inc.

PO Box 51

Spruce Pine, NC 28777-0051

Fullduplexxx

(7,852 posts)
26. Hard to suck in that beer belly
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:04 PM
Jun 2022

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
36. Is that really her? Honestly she has never looked attractive to me. But I can see now that if that
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:22 PM
Jun 2022

is her, they gave her the Sarah Palin makeover with the glasses and dark hair.

Mr.Bill

(24,271 posts)
137. Looks like someone who
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:56 PM
Jun 2022

would only love me for my meth.

Mr.Bill

(24,271 posts)
138. I remember one night David Letterman
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:58 PM
Jun 2022

refered to Palin as a Lenscrafter ad running for office.

efhmc

(14,725 posts)
16. I so do not care what Boebart does/did with her own body but I do abhor the hypocrisy of it
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:39 PM
Jun 2022

and of the GQP for which she is a loony spokesperson.

Rebl2

(13,485 posts)
95. Same here
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:31 PM
Jun 2022

dchill

(38,465 posts)
19. I think the "moral" of this story is not about sexual prostitution...
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:45 PM
Jun 2022

... It's about the Ted Cruz definition of "vetting."

dalton99a

(81,432 posts)
31. +1. The Cancun connoisseur
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:18 PM
Jun 2022

BannonsLiver

(16,352 posts)
20. "Won't someone think of her feelings!111"
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:50 PM
Jun 2022

dalton99a

(81,432 posts)
22. +1
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 06:53 PM
Jun 2022

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,801 posts)
70. LOL
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:03 PM
Jun 2022

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
25. I'm not sure this sinks her. Trump admitted to grabbing womens' genitals without consent.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:02 PM
Jun 2022

And they didn't care! If they like your trash-talk, they will forgive almost anything. And she's fully on that train.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
38. Abortions sink Conservative women, same as gayness sinks men.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:25 PM
Jun 2022

Sexual assault isn't even a sin to be overlooked - it's good and proper, an alpha male taking what he wants.

A woman getting an abortion or a man being gay (Muckrakers is the same group that ousted Cawthorn), well...some things are inexcusable to the GOP.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
116. Her fans will just refuse to believe it. nt.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:04 PM
Jun 2022

LeftInTX

(25,219 posts)
129. Maybe not in Colorado.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:40 PM
Jun 2022

I think voters knew she sorta had "a past".

Her claim to fame is "gun slinging Barbie"

I don't think she's really made much of a pro-life stance/evangelical/church lady stance

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
49. You may be right.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:35 PM
Jun 2022

They didn't care that Trump's wife is a former escort, either. Or, that there are salacious nude photos of her all over the Internet. Or, that he has likely paid for multiple abortions, and unsuccessfully encouraged his soon-to-be second wife to abort his younger daughter. If Madison Cawthorn had not spilled the beans on the Republican cocaine orgies, I dare say they'd have looked the other way on the video of him naked and griding on his male "cousin." I don't think Boebert has done or said anything that unforgivable, as of now.

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
29. The party of "family values" strikes again
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:13 PM
Jun 2022

Free to do what they want in their own bedrooms and bodies, while telling the rest of us to "go to church!" and dictating our lives.

Hypocritical thugs, one and all. "Freedom for me, not for thee." "Family values for thee, not for me."

bluestarone

(16,900 posts)
30. She will just say ("God told me he forgives me")
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:13 PM
Jun 2022

The whole CULT will believe her.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
32. If true. I don't care.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:19 PM
Jun 2022

How a consenting adult makes a living with other consenting adults is fine with me. And someone's abortion is none of my business.

She is a hateful, liar already. Hypocrite to the core. This may be fun for circus purposes but does change anything.

Kingofalldems

(38,444 posts)
33. Whoa! Trump fans in a tizzy over this one.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:19 PM
Jun 2022

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,801 posts)
62. When I see people essentially defending that lousy GQP, it reminds me
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:55 PM
Jun 2022

In the movie "All the President's Men", when Woodward and Bernstein screwed up, Deep Throat told them, "You got people feeling sorry for Haldeman, I didn't think that was possible". Getting the same feeling here with some of these responses

BannonsLiver

(16,352 posts)
212. What you're seeing is the lack of Will to fight like they do
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 01:10 PM
Jun 2022

And to be as ruthless as they are because for some people here sanctimony and virtue signaling are more important than winning elections and keeping crazy hypocrites like Bobert out of office.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
35. I can't be mad at her for either of those things honestly. I understand people are trying to get
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:21 PM
Jun 2022

rid of her but this isn't the way to do it. There are so many other things.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
45. Did you feel the same way about Muckrakers outing Cawthorn?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:28 PM
Jun 2022

I don't find either of their behaviors wrong, but if their base does to the extent that it can destroy their careers, I will gleefully cheer it on.

It's not the actions, it's the person. You wanna do sex work or stick your c*ck in your cousin's face? Cool cool - just don't literally prosecute others for doing the same.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
59. I think you mean persecute? I was not interested
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:49 PM
Jun 2022

in Madison Cawthorn's video. I felt the same way about him.
Outing women who have had abortions is ugly. I get that she is pro life.
The problem I have is that the consequences of such actions almost always seem to fall on the women while tomorrow is just another day for the men.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
71. No, I mean prosecute.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:04 PM
Jun 2022

As in the criminalization of abortion or gay sex. Boebert wants to see people in jail for either of the above, this is hardly a secret.

Your moral issues are noted. I'll consider you a conscientious objector in this war for the literal future of democracy.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
83. Lol.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:12 PM
Jun 2022

Funny.

Quixote1818

(28,927 posts)
119. Your eloquence and wit here is legendary. LOL
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:13 PM
Jun 2022

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
134. Yes because the republic is going to be saved by outing the hypocrisy of Lauren Boebert.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:52 PM
Jun 2022

Golf claps.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
139. If it turns her supporters against her, which I believe it will
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:58 PM
Jun 2022

What's the downside? We get an even more extreme clown? I'm not sure that's possible.

Regardless, any critical damage to my enemy is acceptable.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
149. Then they will vote for a different Republican
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:11 PM
Jun 2022

This was published before the primary to replace her with another R.

Cozmo

(1,402 posts)
88. The point that is being made is her blatant hypocrisy is on display, nothing more.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:18 PM
Jun 2022

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
39. A woman who wants to take away the right to abortion
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:26 PM
Jun 2022

for all other women, has herself benefitted from that same right? Fire away. Baffled at people who think she now deserves privacy, if she supports overturning Roe V Wade, which was about...privacy. Fuck her. Fight dirty like a Republican, or lose elections and our country to nut jobs like Boebert.

dalton99a

(81,432 posts)
41. Precisely.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:27 PM
Jun 2022

One side is fighting to win at all costs, with zero concern for limits or parameters

And the other side reverts to navel-gazing in the face of any conflict

Polybius

(15,372 posts)
175. What if she changed her mind for the worst?
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:15 AM
Jun 2022

It's not really hypocrisy if she had an abortion at 18, then became pro-life 10 years later. What if someone used to own assault weapons in 2004, and now supports a ban?

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
43. So you decided it was not her choice?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:28 PM
Jun 2022

And her privacy should not be respected?

Where is your bar for not respecting medical privacy and HIPAA?

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
46. Nothing about that woman should be respected.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:32 PM
Jun 2022

You may not wish to become a monster in order to fight monsters, but with the stakes of this battle…some of us will. I support Muckrakers 100%.

They didn't violate any medical privacy laws, BTW. The info didn't come from anyone covered by HIPPA or any other privacy law.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
57. So her freedom of choice should not be respected and her abortions should be shamed?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:46 PM
Jun 2022

I don't like her either. And she is dangerous.

I just wonder where your line might be for violating privacy about a right we are suppose to respect?

This is going zilch difference to her supporters, and might gain support because our side is now being hypocrites as to reproductive right privacy.


sir pball

(4,741 posts)
67. When she respects others' freedom of choice I will respect hers.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:00 PM
Jun 2022

My line? That...young lady (ugh, I'm 8 years her senior) started the fight with us. I have three rules for fighting, taught by my sensei — 1. Do not ever start a fight. 2. Always be ready to end a fight. 3. There are no further rules.

I will respect her rights when she respects my wife's rights. Until that time, see Rule 3.

Remember when Larry Craig went down? Hell, remember just recently when Muckrakers outed Cawthorn and sank him? Did you have an issue with weaponizing their gayness against them? I assure you, if she was allowing herself to be impregnated for cash and then killing off the babies her supporters will not be forgiving, and to that end I will cheerfully admit I have no moral obstacles.

Sorry, but I'm not sure what you think we should do. Be prim and respectful and morally superior, denounce her as a Bad Person and urge her base to vote against her because...why, exactly? As I said, you may not be willing to become a monster to fight these monsters…but somebody needs to be. We couldn't have beaten the Nazis without Stalin.

 

Diablo del sol

(424 posts)
90. So her supporters who want to restrict all rights to abortion
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:22 PM
Jun 2022

Are going to forgive her and blame Dems? Bring it on.

Another astonishing show of hypocrisy.

Dems believe the right to chose. Her being outed shows she believes her right to chose but not for others.

Tough fucking shit for her and her supporters.

Bang Bang Boebert, Late term Lauren. I don’t give two turds what names she gets called. It is her hypocritical stances. As for her supporters, too fucking bad. They get it shoved into their faces. Anyone still supporting Repukes is a lost cause. Only way to beat them is to make fun of them. Some will not vote.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
114. HIPAA only applies to medical personnel.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:02 PM
Jun 2022

If Boebert told anyone else that she had two abortions, they are free to repeat what she told them.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
123. Does she support abortion rights for others ? If not then her hypocrisy should
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:19 PM
Jun 2022

be a HUGE issue.

Kid Berwyn

(14,863 posts)
44. Such a promising career.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:28 PM
Jun 2022

SugarDaddyMeet.com, eh?

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,316 posts)
47. Who gives a shit? She's a toxic dangerous rep no matter what she's done.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:32 PM
Jun 2022
 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
50. Nah, people on a roll here.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:36 PM
Jun 2022

Making fun of weight, tattoos, tshirt choices…DU is not what it used to be.

Funny thing, how so many here always talk about not “punching down”, but when it comes to people with poor dentition, or who live in trailers, or aren’t educated, or are overweight,, or live in Appalachia….hey the door is wide open for the good old punch down!

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,316 posts)
55. No MoRe pLaYiNg NiCe!!1!!!!!111111111!!
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:44 PM
Jun 2022
 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
60. Lol, well done.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:51 PM
Jun 2022

XanaDUer2

(10,638 posts)
58. Thank you! Nt
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:49 PM
Jun 2022
 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
61. I've been here a long time, but wow, not much sure how much longer.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:53 PM
Jun 2022

I take lots of breaks.

Today has been a bonza day for DU!

XanaDUer2

(10,638 posts)
65. I saw the 400-lb thread
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:59 PM
Jun 2022

Please stay

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
82. Ah, I leave, but always come back. Many, many good people here.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:10 PM
Jun 2022

They way outnumber the ones that aren’t. Thanks for being one of the good ones!

XanaDUer2

(10,638 posts)
84. Awww
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:12 PM
Jun 2022

TwilightZone

(25,456 posts)
68. That's really nothing new.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:02 PM
Jun 2022

I've been here since the early, early days. There have been posts like that as long as DU has been around.

I'm not even sure it's gotten worse of late -- it's always been here. "We" love a good (bad) stereotype as much as anyone.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
182. Boebert owns a Restaurant and is a member of Congress . You attack Meghan Markle
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:42 AM
Jun 2022

who isn't even in political office. But get defensive about the trash Boebert . Interesting .

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,801 posts)
63. K&R
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:57 PM
Jun 2022

Kingofalldems

(38,444 posts)
64. Kick this thread all night long.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:58 PM
Jun 2022

Kingofalldems

(38,444 posts)
66. So did Cruz sleep with her?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 07:59 PM
Jun 2022

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,801 posts)
69. Well, he got her 126K for something n/t
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:03 PM
Jun 2022

dalton99a

(81,432 posts)
75. After fervent prayer
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:06 PM
Jun 2022

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
86. An old saying about bears, poo and woods comes to mind.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:16 PM
Jun 2022

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
87. I don't understand the concern for MS Boebert. Here's a woman who
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:17 PM
Jun 2022

will out, shame and publicize a woman who finds herself in the same position she did in a NY second if it benefits her in any way. This woman is evil and gets no crocodile tears from me.

Marthe48

(16,932 posts)
91. I don't like to see abortion used as a litmus test for character
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:25 PM
Jun 2022

Abortion is a legitimate medical tool that is under threat of being denied to women, which is going to cause women to die. If boebert had abortions, call her on her hypocrisy (she walked through a door other women opened for her, and she is slamming it shut on the women coming behind her) but not that she had abortions. This is the same hypocrisy that phyllis schafly practiced - as she worked full time for money writing her opinion that women shouldn't have jobs outside of the home. F**k all the hypocrites and women killers.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
111. Abortion isn't being used as a litmus test for character.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:58 PM
Jun 2022

Hypocrisy is being used as a litmus test for character.

Joinfortmill

(14,409 posts)
92. WTF?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:26 PM
Jun 2022

Orrex

(63,198 posts)
94. Won't make a lick of difference to her kkkultists
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:31 PM
Jun 2022

In fact, they'll come in greater numbers and passionately thrust her into another term so that she can maintain her position.

Mr. Evil

(2,838 posts)
96. These are the special people.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:36 PM
Jun 2022

You know them. They're the 'laws for thee, none for me' crowd. To them and their voters they want to live in the Biff Tannen States of America. Lies, hypocrisy, money and power. That's the extent of the meaning of life to these human garbage cans.

KatK

(185 posts)
98. Let's not discriminate against sex workers and people who have sought abortion care. n/t
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:40 PM
Jun 2022

nvme

(860 posts)
99. pLEASE TELl me its not an Onion article!
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:43 PM
Jun 2022

It is time to dance'

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
101. I don't like this content on DU.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:46 PM
Jun 2022

Not one bit. Attack her current egregious behavior as much as you like, but this crap doesn't belong here, IMO.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
106. Too bad
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:53 PM
Jun 2022

How is her hypocrisy not egregious? Block posts about abortion and Boebert if you don't like it.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
108. I'm posting my opinion.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:55 PM
Jun 2022

I will continue to do so, as I see fit.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
113. Same goes for those pointing out hypocricy
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:59 PM
Jun 2022

I find the attempts to shut people up disturbing.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
148. Why do you want to keep the seat R?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:10 PM
Jun 2022

Do you realize this was published before the R primary there?

Let that sink in.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
151. How is that even a little bit relevant?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:13 PM
Jun 2022

She is no less a hypocrite. In fact, if this is right-wingers eating their own? I say bring it on! More, please. I am truly baffled at the attempts to defend her while trying to shut up those who are rightfully and correctly pointing out what a hypocrite she is.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
153. No one is defending her
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:15 PM
Jun 2022

This was timed before the primary to help her Republican opponent, who will be a more effective candidate.

This was not done to help Democrats, or it would have been held until after the primary.

But some people can’t see more than an inch in front of their damned nose.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
154. The attempts to shame those pointing out her hypocricy
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:18 PM
Jun 2022

Are a defense of her, whether you intend it that way or not. She is a hypocrite. That is a fact. There is no reason to pretend otherwise.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
155. This was designed to help Republicans
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:19 PM
Jun 2022

But I guess that’s okay with some.

kcr

(15,315 posts)
157. Are you trying to imply that pro choice Dems
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:23 PM
Jun 2022

Designed this whole thing to help Republicans and pro-lifers? If not, then you aren't making any sense. Why should we leap to her defense just because it was another Republican who pointed out her hypocrisy? Let them eat each other. If another Republican was stupid enough to use this tactic, then nothing should stop us from taking advantage of that own-goal.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
163. I suppose perhaps we may get a less evil repub?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:58 PM
Jun 2022

If she isn’t the R candidate there is the potential that we may get an R that isn’t such a loonball in case we lose?


Dunno. Just thinking here.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
165. Like...?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 11:04 PM
Jun 2022

There was a time that might have been true, but Republicans are a different animal these days.

There’s no Arlen Spector or Olympia Snowe looking for jobs on that side anymore.

Hundreds of them in Congress and only two would join the J6 committee.
 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
168. Maybe but as you say this is a republican going after her.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 11:14 PM
Jun 2022

They may be looking to remove some of these nutjobs. If we don’t win the seat I for sure would be happier to deal with someone a little less horrible than her.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
169. Also there were more than two willing to join J6
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 11:16 PM
Jun 2022

The others just happened to possibly be targets of that investigation or so foul that they didn’t make the cut.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
142. Thank you. I am getting a whiff of toxic masculinity in this thread. Do better DU.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:02 PM
Jun 2022

jmbar2

(4,870 posts)
160. Thank you
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:33 PM
Jun 2022

We need to stick to the high road. Her abortion is nobody's business. Everything else is fair game.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
164. Her Hypocrisy is fair game.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:59 PM
Jun 2022

That is the point.

ZonkerHarris

(24,218 posts)
170. Maybe this is egregious behavior to her voters
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 11:23 PM
Jun 2022

multigraincracker

(32,658 posts)
102. If everyone laid their cards on the table...
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:48 PM
Jun 2022

no one could run for any office. Thats why I say disqualify anyone that wants to run.

Zeitghost

(3,856 posts)
104. DU:
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:50 PM
Jun 2022

Where misogyny is okay, sometimes...

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
143. Yup.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:04 PM
Jun 2022

appmanga

(571 posts)
107. I'm waiting...
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:54 PM
Jun 2022

...for her to sue. If she doesn't, that's evidence this is all absolutely true.

harumph

(1,897 posts)
109. If this is factual and verifiable, it is absolutely fine
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 08:57 PM
Jun 2022

to use it against LB. The point being her hypocrisy. That's the core of it because you can bet
the house that MANY republican women who are more than willing to take away choice for
their sisters, have had abortions themselves. There's no shame whatsoever in an abortion, but there
should be shame in eliminating choice for women when you're unwilling to abide by those
restrictions yourself. That is the real elitism.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,587 posts)
115. Agreed
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:03 PM
Jun 2022

However I'm not jumping on the bandwagon until it's verified by a reputable source.

Quixote1818

(28,927 posts)
125. Yep, if Republicans can jump all over Al Gore for flying in a jet and contributing to climate change
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:24 PM
Jun 2022

as being hypocritical, we can jump all over Boebert for trying to take away the right to abortion for hundreds of millions while thinking it's just dandy for her to do it. Not to mention maybe "some" of her supporters will want to know this since they think Abortion and prostitution is evil and their favorite candidate lied to them and is actually an evil sinner? How this isn't fair game to some on DU absolutely blows my mind.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
117. She gives "Whoring for the Kochs"
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:11 PM
Jun 2022

a whole new meaning.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
147. Yes let's all just take this opportunity to have a resounding go at the whores.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:09 PM
Jun 2022

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
124. Let's remember that sex work is legitimate work
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:20 PM
Jun 2022

And demonizing sex workers is the hallmark of Christofascist bigots.

The problem with Boebert's sex work is her hypocrisy.

Mr.Bill

(24,271 posts)
133. She was refered to as an "unlicensed" escort.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 09:48 PM
Jun 2022

If there is a license required to do that sort of work in Colorado and she didn't have one, then her work wasn't legitimate.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
140. "Legitimate" as in it is real work and should be respected
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:01 PM
Jun 2022

I have no comment on nor to I care about whether a SW has paid her municipal fees or not.

Mr.Bill

(24,271 posts)
145. Would you respect a school bus driver's work
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:08 PM
Jun 2022

if they had no license? Woiuld you buy a car from a car dealership that had no license? Would you respect the work they do unlicensed? I've had jobs that required a license. It never occured to me to do it without one. One thing about a state or federal license, even if all it requires is to pay a fee, is that it can be taken away from you if you break the law in the process of doing your work.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
150. Do you think mothers are legitimate?
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:12 PM
Jun 2022

No license required. I anxiously await your thoughtful response.

Mr.Bill

(24,271 posts)
152. Stupid question completely irrelevant
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:15 PM
Jun 2022

to the subject at hand. No one is required to have a license to be a mother.

Consider this the end to our conversation. Go defend Lauren Boebert all you want.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
156. It is also a job for which there is no license and it is legitimate work.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:20 PM
Jun 2022

Last edited Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:12 AM - Edit history (1)

It's why women who raise children at home for the duration of their marriage are paid out in divorce settlements.
Have a nice evening.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
167. Presumably there is a need for a license.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 11:13 PM
Jun 2022

Being licensed usually means you have to adhere to standards and usually in the interest of the public. As it was brought up I will comment on the bus driver license since I am one. I am required to undergo drug testing, skills testing, medical testing and a hole bunch of other stuff to ensure that I am providing safe work for the clients I serve.

A sex worker who is required to be licensed woukd need to do much of that same. I am quite sure you coukd see the importance of that.

In the case of being a mother I do not see where the need for a license would be required… However, you can see the distinction when compared to a daycare center or a foster care facility which provide many (if not to the same efficacy) of the same care to the kids. They usually need to be licensed and ensured or at least the facilities usually do.

So yes her legitimacy of being a licensed worker may be in question if it is required.

With all of this being said her hypocrisy is absolutely fair game.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
205. A woman doesn't need a license to fuck, bro
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 09:16 AM
Jun 2022

Take the L on this tangent and move on.

Mr.Bill

(24,271 posts)
209. She needs one in the state of Colorado to be an escort.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:57 PM
Jun 2022

And if she's paid to fuck she is breaking the law.

Response to Tarc (Reply #124)

Bettie

(16,086 posts)
141. If true it is the most benign and human
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:02 PM
Jun 2022

thing about her.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
158. The tweet has been deleted.
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:24 PM
Jun 2022

UnderThisLaw

(318 posts)
159. I'm suspicious of this story
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:25 PM
Jun 2022

I don’t believe anyone would pay for Boebert’s companionship

crickets

(25,959 posts)
162. It's the hypocrisy that gets to me. GRR
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 10:48 PM
Jun 2022

The trouble is, Republicans do not, by and large, care about the hypocrisy of their representatives. Sadly, they just don't seem to care as long as those reps are saying what the crowd wants to hear right now. She says what they want to hear, day in and day out. Sad but true, the crazy performative behavior that Democrats find repulsive apparently plays very well with the MAGA base.

Now driving drunk - that might have some legs, especially since she bailed out of the ATV leaving family (including her own son and the dog) in the car to potentially die. That one might get the family values crowd to sit up and take notice if it could get into the news cycle for longer than 10 seconds.

Blue Owl

(50,340 posts)
166. Boe vs. Wade
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 11:08 PM
Jun 2022

iemanja

(53,027 posts)
171. Evidently her husband did jail time for indecent exposure
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 11:27 PM
Jun 2022

femmedem

(8,201 posts)
204. He did do jail time for indecent exposure but the Antifa part is satire.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 06:00 AM
Jun 2022

It says so at the end of the article.

iemanja

(53,027 posts)
206. Ah, ok
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 11:04 AM
Jun 2022

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
173. Here is a tweet from the same source of this info:
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 12:03 AM
Jun 2022

?s=20&t=N5ODLWjrNPgBDdl1fHG-1Q

In that Tweet you see Boebert's Republican opponent endorsed. Where do you see them endorsing the Dems running in that district or any mention of them? Did they mention any of the Dems that were running for Cawthorn's seat? Further, Boebert's opponent voted against Colorado HB 1279 Reproductive Health Equity Act which was signed into law by Governor Jared Polis anyway.
FWIW the Democrats running for Boebert's seat are Sol Sandoval, Adam Frisch and Alex Walker.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
190. I don't think anyone is confused as to who American Muckraker PAC is.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 01:04 AM
Jun 2022

It's a Republican PAC whose goal is to oust some of the worst in their party.

They're an enemy of our enemy but not a friend.

"We" didn't do this and and bear no responsibility here.

Personally, I'm going to stock up on popcorn while they continue to eviscerate their own. The American Muckrackers apparently isn't going to pull any punches against their targets.

Obligatory disclaimer: Being a sex worker isn't bad. Having an abortion isn't bad. Boebert isn't bad for having done so herself. If she were a Dem it would hold much less sway against her. She is however bad for being a hypocrite and pretending she's better than those who have engaged in those actions.

The rest is up to the Republicans voters in her district to sort out.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
192. Wow. When Republicans go after their own they don't hold back.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 01:11 AM
Jun 2022

It looks like Reagan's 11th commandment is officially dead, buried and the flower urn is now being used as urinal.

Polybius

(15,372 posts)
197. I was nearly certain that I saw Lauren Boebert on PornHub two months ago
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 02:05 AM
Jun 2022

Turns out it was Dava Foxx, unless that's her alter ego name.

PCIntern

(25,518 posts)
203. Not even close...
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 05:26 AM
Jun 2022

But I virtually guarantee you that there’s a sextape somewhere.

Polybius

(15,372 posts)
211. I did a search for Lauren Boebert Dava Foxx
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 01:02 PM
Jun 2022

Others have asked if they are the same person. Of course they are two different people, but I see a strong resemblance.

As for the sex tape, probably. At the very least nude pics.

Hotler

(11,412 posts)
207. She must of sucked at that also. She's no politician. nt
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 11:37 AM
Jun 2022

Kingofalldems

(38,444 posts)
208. Keep on kickin' this one.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 11:38 AM
Jun 2022

BannonsLiver

(16,352 posts)
213. So if true she's both a prostitute (whore) and a hypocrite.
Wed Jun 15, 2022, 01:16 PM
Jun 2022
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