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Tue May 24, 2022, 10:20 PM

Awhile back i posted about a billboard i was considering for election

Electronic billboard. Planning on subliminal suggestion. Consider picture of nazi flag Putin and GOP symbol. Viewers will not consciously know they have seen these. Then followed by blue background sign. SAVE Our DEMOCRACY VOTE DEMOCRATIC!
Southern Christian Republican did not like this. Said This wouldn't make me vote Democratic, i want to see something positive. Northern Democratic woman said I like it but sign may get shot out first day. I got similar responses but less emphatic from others. The southern lady said give me something positive if you want me to vote Democratic. So I considered " Subsidized Child Care Better Social Security and Women's right to Choose. Followed by same blue sign.
Thought about this for some time and then remembered nobody likes negative ads BUT they work.
Keep in mind messages will be subliminal, viewers will not be conscious of seeing them. Studies by scientists and psychologists have proven this method works.
What do you all think?

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tiredtoo May 2022 OP
PoindexterOglethorpe May 2022 #1
tiredtoo May 2022 #2
PoindexterOglethorpe May 2022 #3
tiredtoo May 2022 #4
PoindexterOglethorpe May 2022 #5
tiredtoo May 2022 #6
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tiredtoo May 2022 #7
WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #9
tiredtoo May 2022 #10
WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #11
tiredtoo May 2022 #12
WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #13

Response to tiredtoo (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2022, 10:26 PM

1. No, studies do not show this method is effective,

unless it is reinforcing something you already want to do.

What you are proposing would make people link nazi flag, Putin, and the GOP symbol with voting Democratic.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #1)

Tue May 24, 2022, 10:52 PM

2. Well in that case i could use the second method.

Subsidized child care, increased Social Security and woman's right to choose. I also considered redoing the flags etc. with red cross outs on them. I am not trying to convince either hard core voters to vote a Democratic I am trying to get the swing voters to vote Democratic. Still working on this and that is why I posted here for suggestions. I could even put symbols up with red cross outs on them alone.
Thank you for your input.

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Response to tiredtoo (Reply #2)

Tue May 24, 2022, 11:11 PM

3. I haven't any good ideas about how to convince any voters,


but you are on the right path wanting to concentrate on the swing voters. Although I think it's probably very difficult to locate genuine swing voters.

I don't think subliminal advertisement is at all the way to go, since it's really not very effective.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #3)

Wed May 25, 2022, 12:05 AM

4. Just did a google search on subliminal advertising

Got mixed results. Some say it works, some say it doesn't work. One phrase caught my attention. It cannot convince a voter to vote for a candidate he doesn't like. That is not my goal. I live in Michigan, there are about 10-20 percent swing voters in this state. If our sign can swing 50 percent or more to vote our way it is worth the expense/effort. That's a big IF. Still thinking about the project. Still confused.

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Response to tiredtoo (Reply #4)

Wed May 25, 2022, 12:47 AM

5. That the results are mixed tells you a lot.

You'd have to try out ads, see if they actually work, probably fine-tune them for best results. If you are not already an expert in subliminal advertising, I think you shouldn't go there.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #5)

Wed May 25, 2022, 08:15 AM

6. So, no billboard?

Or just one with no subliminal stuff.
Just "Save our Democracy

VOTE DEMOCRATIC"

Would be your recommendation?

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Response to tiredtoo (Reply #6)

Wed May 25, 2022, 09:00 AM

8. I have no specific suggestions for an alternative billboard.

But at the very least, have you been able to find out what one with the subliminal stuff would cost? Is it even possible for one to be set up for subliminal messaging?

But yeah, "Save our Democracy" is basic. You might also target specific Republicans with facts about what they've voted for or against. Especially if connected to things like yesterday's mass murder in Texas.

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Response to tiredtoo (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2022, 08:16 AM

7. Nothing personal but

I wish I could get more input from more folks here.

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Response to tiredtoo (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2022, 09:01 AM

9. What's your goal?

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #9)

Wed May 25, 2022, 09:52 AM

10. Goal is to get the swing voters to vote Democratic EOM

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Response to tiredtoo (Reply #10)

Wed May 25, 2022, 10:01 AM

11. The whole point of a swing voter is that they're inspired by candidate, not party.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #11)

Wed May 25, 2022, 10:20 AM

12. I have heard that many times

they don't vote for a party, they vote for what they determine is the best candidate. So what message would convince them the Democratic candidate is the best candidate? Or should I say any Democratic candidate is the best candidate?

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Response to tiredtoo (Reply #12)

Wed May 25, 2022, 10:37 AM

13. I'd recommend that you take your money and donate it to a specific candidate.

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