Ok, I will say it

Constitution doesn't enshrine guns as a national religion. The republican party does.

And it may get even worse if local governments are prohibited from restricting guns from public places.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/10/responsible-gun-ownership-is-a-lie/619811/?utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Which does seem to be the places demented fucks go to do really vile shit.

People who do this type of fucked up shit always seem to go to soft targets. The kid in new york went where he went because he knew the odds of running in to another gun was slim except the guard, he said that specifically.

is that trolling??

And I say that as someone who owns a gun, but believes in that governments have the right to regulate gun ownership and how I can use that gun.

leading to the most fucked up dysfunctional democracy ever

I had actually come to this conclusion earlier today when I was trying to explain to someone why I could no longer talk politics with civility. I told him that any document that was so undemocratic that minority elected Presidents and Senate could appoint an SC that would override policy supported by 60%+ was a fucked up document. That was this morning.

This afternoon's event was merely the exclamation point.

So yeah, it is about more than just the guns. But for right now, it is about the guns.

Of its time and place. But now is now.

It's the NRA and gun humping assholes who twist the constitution to their will and idiot voters who allow it. I just saw gov. Abbott on tv feigning outrage regarding the shooting and I about puked.

If you allow people to drop the initial clause, it becomes easier to misinterpret. Most of these right wing 2nd amendment fan boys don't even know the first clause exists. They are never going to give that clause the weight it deserves (because it's like first...ya know).

... and it's bullshit now.

... Scalia was instrumental in expanding gun ownership to any yahoo who wants one.

Yes, it IS about the interpretation.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/16/politics/second-amendment-heller-scalia-indianapolis/index.html#:~:text=In%20that%205%2D4%20milestone,the%20legal%20understanding%20for%20decades.

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I have asked each time of them when this type incident occurs- "Do you think we have a problem with gun violence in America?'" Sadly, the gun owners I know never answer yes. We cannot truly solve this until we all agree there is a problem. They are mostly afraid (they reveal this when giving me their response) that the government is going to take away their guns. I try telling them they are predicting the actions that could be taken, when all I wanted to find out was if they think we have a problem. No one is going to be able to confiscate weapons. What I'd like to do is make them harder (not impossible) to obtain. Same with ammo..................

We're the country with the oldest (or one of the oldest) governing documents and most other civilized countries have a 20th Century set of governing documents.

Maybe that's the problem.