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Fri May 13, 2022, 01:24 PM

Eric Swalwell tweet:

You know who had a heartbeat? Every child murdered in their school because Republicans are the party of mass shooters. This isn’t about heartbeats. This is about criminalizing women.


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tblue37 Friday OP
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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 01:43 PM

1. K & R . . .

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 02:27 PM

2. Keep repeating this at every opportunity.

Republicans are the party of mass shooters, insurrectionists and government over reach into the lives of private citizens.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 02:34 PM

3. Absolutely!

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 02:49 PM

4. K&R

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 02:54 PM

5. The Catholic Church does not officially accept that a fetus is alive and has a soul




The Catholic Church will not baptize a full term still born child that a mother gave birth to. Not only they won’t baptize the baby they WILL NOT allow the baby to have a funeral mass. Reasons is the baby never took a breath. Tell me how the CC believes life begins a conception.— Niticlips (@nitisac) May 12, 2022

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Response to csziggy (Reply #5)

Fri May 13, 2022, 03:16 PM

7. To my knowledge, the CC does NOT believe

that life begins at conception. It declares that a fetus is POTENTIAL human life that only begins when God infuses a fetus with a soul. The CC can only estimate when that moment occurs. Aquinas believed in the notion that a soul is infused when the fetus becomes viable, or capable of independent functioning. The evangelicals inundated the Christian world with the revisionist notion that human life begins at conception. Some sects of the CC have also adopted that view.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #5)

Fri May 13, 2022, 03:18 PM

8. Inconsistent philosophy is a hallmark of the RC church.

When does the soul enter the body? Even the Jesuits can't agree on this one. They also don't know when this elusive "soul" leaves the body. Thus they capriciously make rules based on fuzzy thinking.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #5)

Fri May 13, 2022, 04:03 PM

10. From the Vatican Playbook...the Catechism

2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.72

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.73
My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth.74


Ex-Catholic here.

What you cite is one more glaring inconsistency with how Catholics use the catechism to advance whatever narrative they have. It was thought at one time that such babies went directly to Limbo. Now, the verbiage is they are “commended to God’s mercy,” since they were not baptized (the automatic ticket to the Pearly Gates). There are some rites that can be said, but no funeral Mass.

I cannot begin to tell you how cruel that is to a grieving parent. I know — I was one. But I think most priests don’t believe that bullshit either. Mine didn’t.

Compare this with how some Catholics view the death penalty. It’s pretty clear in the CCC that it should only be used in the most extreme of circumstances, and that given all the ways to protect society, it should be rarely, IF EVER, used. Thus, the context is clear that the Church does not support it. Yet, you hear some say it’s permissible, totally ignoring that context.

To be consistent, Catholics should follow the “seamless garment” argument that all life is precious and should be protected and honored from cradle to grave, if they are such good Catholics as they claim to be.

Left all this behind several years ago and never looked back. I was a convert, so I never fully bought most of that faith in the first place anyway.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #5)

Fri May 13, 2022, 04:30 PM

14. The problem here is that the tweet is entirely incorrect

The CC doesn't baptize stillborn children because they believe that baptism is for the living...

... and they absolutely allow a funeral mass for stillborn.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #5)

Sat May 14, 2022, 09:03 AM

20. When we had our first child die during an emergency c-section

the state of Illinois would not issue a death certificate or birth certificate. She was listed as "products of conception" on my medical records. *ETA: At 42 weeks of pregnancy.

Since then, I understand that the state does issue some form of certificate for a stillbirth or an intrapartum death.

But, if a fertilized egg is a person, there are a lot more people who should be getting child tax credits annually, based on the number of miscarriages!

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 02:57 PM

6. Truth

I knew that rethugs could not be reasoned with and they would not stop after the Sandy Hook Massacre. They were satisfied with school shootings then (remember that their 2A rights trump anyone else's dead kid) and they don't give a damn about them now.

Now watch the murderous collaborating snowflakes whine about the insult. Let them cry.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 03:36 PM

9. But these kids were already born.

These fucks wanting to get rid of Roe only care about the preborn, in most cases a clump of cells that may develop human characteristics.

As Carlin said, once you leave the delivery room, you’re on your own, kid.

Everybody sees through this shit, including those who are pushing it.

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Response to AngryOldDem (Reply #9)

Fri May 13, 2022, 04:15 PM

13. Republicans believe kids' lives are precious.

Just not as precious as the guns used to kill them.

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 04:09 PM

11. Rt TY Rep Swalwell gets to the

very dead center.

💙💛

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 04:12 PM

12. Good point, Rep. Swalwell...

Very, very sad...

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 06:07 PM

15. I wish that I could recommend this tweet a thousand times......

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 07:13 PM

16. Nailed it!

n/t

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Fri May 13, 2022, 08:35 PM

17. Love Rep. Swalwell!

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2022, 08:27 AM

18. I love him.

He speaks what’s on his mind!

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2022, 08:49 AM

19. Absolutely spot on!

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Response to tblue37 (Original post)

Sat May 14, 2022, 09:06 AM

21. Kick

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Sat May 14, 2022, 09:19 AM

22. K&R

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Sat May 14, 2022, 12:24 PM

23. Criminalizing women is right

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Sat May 14, 2022, 12:58 PM

24. KnR

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