Republicans are corrupt and vile subhumans

[Fgiriun]

There is no such thing as an intelligent republican. There are only idiots and greedy parasites that feel more deserving then everybody else, often projecting their own corrupt actions upon others. To the perverse republican mind they look upon the poor, needy and sick as feeling entitled while simultaneously ignoring or even praising the wealthy for avoiding to pay taxes. On top of that they have the irrational belief that the wealthier the plutocrats become the better off they will become (once again it is all about themselves, not everyone). They hate the government that by definition represents all citizens and wish to see it chopped and privatized for the gains of a few. It is not in the private companies best interest to care for people or their environment, even if that is the business objective. The private entity main goal is to grow revenue and when this is accompanied by financial and environmental deregulation then it is not far fetched to expect corruption and decadence.

The continual presence of republicans is rendering our Democracy useless. They continue to intimidate the media, scientists and the overall populations into ignoring facts and accepting their ill conceived ideology. If this environment of disinformation and intimidation continues we can expect Progressive ideals to falter due to an increasing support of conservative views (screw the poor, the sick, the environment. Divert resources in order to make the wealthier richer and more powerful) Also, any plutocrat, no matter how stupid or psychopathic will be able to get elected just on the basis of foreign and corporate influence as well as lies and misinformation. Democratic politicians will have to become just as corrupt as republicans in order to get elected. The same thing happened when republicans started backing lobbying and special interests, Democrats had to do the same in order to remain relevant.

When it comes to executive power republicans are outright dangerous. Democrats will be unable to apply the same divisive tactics used by the republicans in the legislature. If Democrats threatened to filibuster they will be met with a backlash of unprecedented proportions, even threats by the executive branch will be enough to divide the Democratic senate thus preventing a filibuster. It's not as if republicans care about the legislative branch at all, considering how much power they feel the executive should have. These are the same people that accuse others of being dictators and undemocratic so their lack of rationality is terrifying, especially after considering what their goals are.

I think that we should not tolerate the intolerant. We should not consider the realities of republicans to be at all significant. They are the subhumans of our era.

[darkangel218]

1. Well said

[Fgiriun]

2. I believe we have the upper hand in the long run

History, truth, and reason is on our side but I feel that there might be some setbacks along the way. At least we do not suffer from the cognitive dissonance disorder that afflicts republicans so we are able to solve the problems we may encounter.

[rock]

3. You've noticed that too!

I believe all at DU have come to that conclusion. Welcome aboard!

[cali]

4. Angry and disgusted as I am by the republican party, posts like these give me the creeps

Deeming millions of people "subhuman" is not something I'm remotely comfortable with. Your post says some insightful things, but calling people subhuman diminishes it.

[FSogol]

17. Yeah, I agree. n/t

[garthranzz]

24. I also agree - the title of the OP gives me the creeps

I think Jon Stewart's speech at his Rally to Restore Sanity is must watching.

Nuff said.

[Fgiriun]

27. Reappropriation is a powerful weapon

conservatives have used the word subhuman to divide along racial lines so why not use the term against them? They have been calling us subhumans for being more culturally diverse, tolerant, and open. For believing in facts and science, not superstition. Their beliefs might have been justified back during medieval times when knowledge was not so readily available but now it isn't. We have evolved as a society but they have remained behind feeling sheltered by their absurd beliefs.

[renate]

5. I would make a distinction between Republicans in politics and the media, and those who just vote

I can't imagine why anybody would vote Republican, but then, I don't watch Fox or have a pastor who talks politics from the pulpit or have stupid relatives and friends filling my ears with BS.

The people in positions of power who deliberately manipulate others, with fears and lies, are the ones who are evil, I think. With some exceptions, particularly those in the 1% who vote for the good of their checkbook and not for the greater good, run of the mill Republicans are mostly just not all that discerning.

[Qutzupalotl]

6. No, they're humans who disagree with us.

I am especially wary of any argument that includes calling your opponent subhuman. Such arguments were used in Nazi Germany to justify oppression of Jews, and in more recent times, to justify shooting abortion doctors.

[darkangel218]

7. "humans who disagree with us"? thats all?

How about warmonging humans?
Humans who want to take womens abortion right away?
Humans who want to get rid of our Medicare?
Humans who claim to be pro life, but OK with the death penalty?
Humans who discriminate against minorities?

I don't endorse calling them "subhumans" either, but saying that they simply disagree with us would be a huge understatement, don't you agree?

[Qutzupalotl]

10. Everything you listed is a disagreement.

They've been deluded into thinking evil is good. That's as far as I'll go.

[darkangel218]

14. We're not talking here about some political science class debate

We're talking about REAL things! The RW is not playing word games with us, they really would make these things happen if given the opportunity.

[Qutzupalotl]

16. Then say that.

But when you go calling them subhuman, you lose credibility.

[darkangel218]

19. Excuse me, when did i ever call anyone a subhuman?

I am not the OP and do not know him or her. Besides, do you really think they said that because they have some hidden Nazi ideology? You're angry over a missused term rather then see the bigger more important picture.

[Qutzupalotl]

54. When you agreed with the OP.

And I'm not angry, just trying to tone down the rhetoric. And no, I don't think they have a hidden Nazi ideology, I was warning that such talk is a slippery slope.

[darkangel218]

57. Lmao! Are you sure about that??

"I don't endorse calling them "subhumans" either, but saying that they simply disagree with us would be a huge understatement, don't you agree?"

[Qutzupalotl]

58. You agreed with th OP until you responded to me,

then you backpedaled.

[darkangel218]

60. I agreed with their message, not the words used!

Nice try though!

[Qutzupalotl]

62. "Well said."

[darkangel218]

63. Well said to the message overall, not that one single word.

How many times do I have to explain this?

Let me know, cuz I have the whole night!

[Qutzupalotl]

64. The one single word that's the whole point of the OP?

Oooookay...

[LovePeacock]

9. Funny that both Nazis and murdering abortion doctors are two favorite things of conservatives.

I guess it's just a coincidence though...

[Qutzupalotl]

11. The other side does it

and that's why they're wrong. Don't join them.

[yoyossarian]

39. Oh, that's it, huh? THAT'S why they're wrong?

See, I thought it was all the other stuff--y'know, the self-imposed ignorance, the endless intolerance for all variations of race, sexual proclivities, etc, found commonly in all populations of humans since time immemorial... not to mention their near-romantic predilections for lying and weaseling and war-mongering, and using assassination as a basic political tool, and of course all that constant coordinated effort at rigging the game to foster the most insane levels of social and economic inequality possible, both here and throughout the entire world...
I gotta admit, it strikes me as rather funny--or perhaps the better word is simply ODD--how nuanced your views on Republicans are... guess you musta used it all up on that, cuz your reading of the OP's sentiments, and those of so MANY Dems who frequent these pages, seems to lack ANY nuance at all!

[Qutzupalotl]

55. It's one of many reasons why they're wrong.

I never said the hyperbole was the only reason.

Spare some nuance for me, okay?

[Doctor_J]

13. No, they're not

they're ugly, soulless, evil beings

[argiel1234]

26. pedophiles are technically human too

should I just accept that I "disagree" with them?

[Qutzupalotl]

56. Yes they are. Technically and literally.

So call them scum, low-lifes, vile, anything you want except subhuman, because that's patently false.

[Fgiriun]

30. The conservative argument is based on

pseudoscience, conspiracies, superstitions, racism, and logical fallacies. Subhuman is indeed a strong word but its use is necessary to bring awareness to how blatantly dangerous our adversaries are. Furthermore, neuroscience has identified that liberal and conservative minds differ and this can be attributed to an evolutionary process therefore it is not far fetched to say that republicans are subhuman.

[Fgiriun]

35. This is not about disagreements

As liberals and progressives we disagree, but our differences lead to a constructive resolution. You cannot argue and expect to reach consensus with those who continue to accept irrational notions. You cannot compromise basic liberal principals of equality by accepting inane republican family values and morality.

[yoyossarian]

8. Abso-FUCKING-lutely!

Subhuman, unhuman, inhuman... they are unquestionably inhumane and utterly obnoxious to all forms of life on this planet.

[Doctor_J]

12. Yep. Every last one of them

Republicanism is cancer of the soul. The world would be a far better place if they were not part of it.

[RepublicansRZombies]

15. we have to figure out what happened, to prevent it from continuing in the future

They infiltrated all of our institutions, looted the country with pilfering any way possible...and they couldn't have done anything without the complicity of the corrupt corporate media, using out public airwaves.

None of this would be possible without a functioning media.

Corporate media needs to be our target to stop this bullshit. WE can't just turn it off, we have to stop allowing them to brainwash people into voting against their own interests.

Those are our public airwaves! They are not serving the public at all. They are serving themselves and they should lose their FCC license.

[freshwest]

65. +1

[Kurska]

18. You sound exactly like the worst kind of republican.

The one that demoneizes and dehumanizes their opponent.

[darkangel218]

20. We'll see if you feel the same if god forbid Romney wins

And you'll see your rights taken away from you, along with any kind of dignity.

[yoyossarian]

31. A LOT of cognitive dissonance here...

You seem to be mistaking the OP's passion for real democracy, and understandable desire to halt these madmen in their tracks, before they MURDER the entire human race, AND the environment that birthed us, with "the worst kind of republican"ism...
Personally, I think the WORST sort of democrat is one that holds tight to the ridiculous purist philosophy you seem to espouse.
Were this the era of the Civil War, would you promote the idea of meeting the rebels' brutal aggressions with hugs and big bunches of flowers?
Yes, in war EVERYONE comes out smelling like blood and shit, EVERYONE is sullied by it...
But that doesn't mean that one of those sides wasn't the true and right and JUST side.

Can YOU guess which one that was? Or do they both seem exactly equal to you?

[slackmaster]

21. Your zeal is remarkable

See? I just made a remark about it.

Democratic politicians will have to become just as corrupt as republicans in order to get elected.

Riiiiiight.

[darkangel218]

28. spigotty?

[slackmaster]

29. Drip, drip, drip...

[LP2K12]

22. Explain...

Republicans for Obama?

Just saying, they aren't all bad. We may not agree with them, but that doesn't make them all idiots.

There is no such thing as an intelligent republican. There are only idiots and greedy parasites that feel more deserving then everybody else, often projecting their own corrupt actions upon others.

[Fgiriun]

36. They still adhere to republican concepts

They're just sane enough to understand how inept the alternative is.

[polichick]

23. Republicon leaders are greedy, dangerous, even sociopathic in many cases...

...but a lot of their followers are just easily fooled and very willing to follow the leader rather than think for themselves.

I agree that it's a mistake to tolerate the leaders - it's important to speak clearly about their agenda. Too often, Democrats try to emulate them. And as far as the followers go, imo it's important to point out to them what policies they are actually supporting - a lot of them can't connect the dots.


Edited for clarification.

[antigone382]

25. I refuse to classify any human being as a subhuman.

To do so is to become subhuman myself.

There are as wide a variety of Republicans as there are Democrats or any other group. I believe the mainstream ideology of the Republican party is notably toxic, and I believe its propagation is fueled by ignorance, prejudice, desperation, and the self-serving propaganda of some very powerful people. But the problems there go even deeper than Republicanism. Democratic platforms also fail to address the very deep structural changes that must be made to save us, and it is not all because of intimidation by Republicans. Modern neoliberalism, with its ideology of global free trade as a means to worldwide equality and prosperity (it does not and cannot supply this change), is a destructive school of thought in its own right.

[Fgiriun]

33. Fear

Is an evolutionary trait that has been receding. That is why the power of religion has been in decline since its inception and so have individuals that consider themselves religious. Human evolution is perfectly validated by liberal ideas because all forms of progress have at one point been envisioned by liberal thinkers. This includes neo-liberalism which you mentioned, globalization, free-trade, and other economic concepts that have become part of republicanism which originally proposed protectionism and social Darwinism (the root of racism and pseudoscience).

[slackmaster]

34. That's a bunch of gobbledygook

Fear... ...Is an evolutionary trait that has been receding.

[Fgiriun]

38. ...

people with conservative tendencies have a larger amygdala and a smaller anterior cingulate than other people. The amygdala — typically thought of as the “primitive brain” — is responsible for reflexive impulses, like fear.
http://www.salon.com/2010/12/29/conservative_brains/
http://blog.psico.edu.uy/cibpsi/files/2011/04/brains.pdf

[slackmaster]

40. Can you cite verifiable evidence that the incidence of fear among humans is declining?

No, of course you can't.

[Fgiriun]

42. It is no longer necessary for survival.

During the middle ages people faced greater threat thus had a bigger amygdala.

[slackmaster]

43. A healthy fear of things like oncoming freight trains and thunderstorms has great survival value

During the middle ages people faced greater threat thus had a bigger amygdala.

You're blowing smoke.

[Fgiriun]

45. I'm making an inference

based on neuroscientific studies stating that taxi drivers have a larger hippocampus. It is not impossible to presume that a continual state of fear will lead to the same result. Although you are right I think fear has become more about entertainment than impulse driven.

[slackmaster]

47. Wow, a neo-Lamarckian in our midst

[slackmaster]

41. True psychopaths are mentally ill humans who deserve compassion and medical care

By usurping the term to cover all people who have chosen a particular political persuasion, you have devalued the plight of people who are actually mentally ill.

Our prisons are full of actual psychopaths. Prison psychiatrists are among the busiest doctors in the world.

[slackmaster]

50. Not true. People with ASP can be taught cognitive skills to understand and manage the consequences

...of their behavior.

And like most mental disorders, there are DEGREES of antisocial personality disorder. It's not black or white, all or nothing.

But of course pretending it can't be treated and that all people who have the disorder have it to an extreme degree are typical of the tactics used to dehumanize and then justify discrimination against mentally ill people.

Treating a mentally ill person with empathy doesn't mean you have to put up with their crap.

You'll never be able to get someone like Mitt Romney to feel any sort of remorse for all the people he's screwed and impoverished. He's just a predator in human skin.

Blurring the distinction between a person you dislike and the mentally ill in general is another common way of dehumanizing people who are actually sick.

[LancetChick]

44. My family is "severely conservative" and I can tell you this...

... they are not all idiots, despite the fact that they make no sense to us, and they are not unfeeling, despite the often cruel political policies Republican politicians vote for. They are human beings who live in hermetically sealed bubbles, who shape their views to fit a preselected world view, and who look at the same things we do, but see something completely different. It isn't logic that drives them, it's emotion.

When I mention to my sister the "47%" and she immediately blurts out "The TAKERS!", she does so with real venom and emotion. Explaining who the 47% really are is not something she wants to hear ("Senior citizens on social security aren't part of the 47%" she believes), so she simply blocks it out. She WANTS to be angry about "moochers" because it makes her and her ilk look like fine, upstanding citizens, or the good people.

In her view, anyone may succeed if they are strong enough, and if they aren't, it's because they choose not to be. Strength is very important to her, and she loved the Bush America that was the biggest bully in the world, hated by so many people outside of our country. She keeps DVDs of Reagan speeches and tears up with strong emotion when she watches them.

She SOUNDS like an idiot, doesn't she? But she did better in school than I did, and graduated from one of the best universities. She just uses a very differently wired brain to interpret the world. And so we just agree to disagree, avoid political conversations, and talk about anything else. You can often make a moderate see your point of view, but not a true partisan on the other side of the fence.

I admit, though, that I occasionally close my eyes and try to imagine a world without Republicans, which is surprisingly relaxing!

[Apollyosis]

67. She does

She's a book smart idiot with an education. Thinking might= reality is about as caveman as you can get.

[GP6971]

68. You probably won't get an answer as

the member you replied to hasn't posted since July of 2014.

[marble falls]

69. Hope springs eternal

[GP6971]

70. I'm thinking a future

edit spammer.

[marble falls]

71. Me, too.

[whistler162]

46. You are? Are you sure?

self loathing isn't good for a person.

[War Horse]

48. I thought I went to DU

But apparently I stumbled upon freerepublic in reverse.

If you're going for 'turnabout is fair play' to illustrate a point, then, well, ok.

Otherwise, just no. Several relevant points in your rant, and I get the anger. But it's just way over the top.

[slackmaster]

51. The technique is called "zealotry trolling"

The purpose is to draw out the minority of DU members who are angry enough and naive enough to jump on the bandwagon, thus making the site as a whole look more like a bunch of unreasonable extremists and hypocrites.

[darkangel218]

61. Do i need an adjustable heavy duty wrench?

[Hugabear]

52. I see what you're doing there...

Although I'm not allowed to state exactly what that is.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

53. Even trolls are human.

[NCTraveler]

59. Your op speaks volumes....

About you.

[LanternWaste]

66. I'm compelled to believe that we judge a person's character on and of their own behavior;

I'm compelled to believe that we judge a person's character on and of their own behavior; else, by your absolutism, I'd be forced to think that my mother is a "corrupt and vile subhuman" which or course, I do not believe, as I see her as compassionate, loving, caring, generous and supportive.

As idiotic, as fallacious and as vulgar as yours is when Limabugh says it re: liberals, I find the mirror image to be as disturbing also. That being said, I do of course, understand the mental convenience generalities allow us-- visceral satisfaction, a more pronounced Us v. Them division, no need to concern ourselves with context or nuance... or even the individual. Quite easy and simplistic thinking indeed.


"I think that we should not tolerate the intolerant. .." I certainly hope you hold those who do not tolerate your own opinions to that same standard, and give them a pass for labeling you as ineffectual and insignificant.