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kentuck

(111,078 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:26 AM Oct 2012

If you've been thru a disaster before...?

You probably know that it is not cleaned up in a few days. Sometimes it is not cleaned up in a few months or a few years. Sometimes they bring about permanent changes.

I do not know the full extent of the disaster along the East Coast, including Jersey and New York, but from the appearance, it will take a long time to clean up. It may never be the same?

Which brings us to the next President. The citizens will have high expectations of their government to help them in this situation. Mitt Romney may dislike FEMA today but he will grow to love it. This disaster could affect the next presidency as much as this one, or more.

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If you've been thru a disaster before...? (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2012 OP
Are you saying that Romney will win this election? Skidmore Oct 2012 #1
+1 darkangel218 Oct 2012 #2
Reality dictates the possibility that either of the candidates may win. kentuck Oct 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Oct 2012 #3
This will take months, years, and cost trillions. (Yes, with a 'T'). bemildred Oct 2012 #4
In New York we will clean it up TomClash Oct 2012 #6
I would agree with your statement. kentuck Oct 2012 #7
The Last Thing On People's Minds This Morning... KharmaTrain Oct 2012 #8
Bush... yourout Oct 2012 #9
No, Romney will be just as he was clydefrand Oct 2012 #10
This is good info to have before the election. kentuck Oct 2012 #11
What further complicates this Not Me Oct 2012 #12
FEMA under Republicans = Katrina Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #13
Yep, a cash cow for cronies. nt bemildred Oct 2012 #14
Whomever is President... kentuck Oct 2012 #15
You don't seem to understand. Bush came into office and started destroying FEMA Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #16
I do understand that. kentuck Oct 2012 #17
Then why do you say Willard would come to love FEMA? Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #18
Because he would be politically squeezed to love it... kentuck Oct 2012 #19

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
1. Are you saying that Romney will win this election?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:28 AM
Oct 2012

I fully intend on working to make sure he doesn't get to learn to love anything, especially the chair at the desk in the Oval Offfice.

kentuck

(111,078 posts)
5. Reality dictates the possibility that either of the candidates may win.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:32 AM
Oct 2012

To look at it otherwise is delusional. I want very much for the President to win re-election, but there is no guarantee. Those that think otherwise are deluding themselves and not helping the overall cause. I do not think voters are stupid but many of them are ignorant. And I fear our Party is not educating these voters sufficiently.

Response to kentuck (Original post)

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. This will take months, years, and cost trillions. (Yes, with a 'T').
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:31 AM
Oct 2012

It's a recovery act all by itself. But we should stick with the rescue and support efforts for now.

TomClash

(11,344 posts)
6. In New York we will clean it up
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:33 AM
Oct 2012

and make it better.

It will be easier and better with President Obama.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
8. The Last Thing On People's Minds This Morning...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:35 AM
Oct 2012

I just got off the phone with relatives who were in the worst of it last night...right now all they care about is finding a dry and warm place to hang out until the power is restored. I will assume many, many others are of the same mindset this morning. Yes, they're looking to FEMA but also will be calling on their insurance companies and local elected officials as well. Granted, this storm provides a good opportunity for President Obama to show the good the federal government can do in this situation, but for those on the ground, they're only caring about rebuilding homes and lives.

clydefrand

(4,325 posts)
10. No, Romney will be just as he was
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:36 AM
Oct 2012

as Gov. in 2006, when he did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for hurricane victims in Ma.

Not Me

(3,398 posts)
12. What further complicates this
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:42 AM
Oct 2012

is the fact that Winter is right around the corner and will delay efforts to rebuild in many situations.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. FEMA under Republicans = Katrina
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:43 AM
Oct 2012

Mitt would be even worse. If you think the botching of Katrina response was not the result of years of Republican policy tearing the agency to shreds you are woefully lacking in information. What you saw was the Republican Response to disaster. Mitters has said he'd privatize FEMA.
Under Clinton, under Obama, FEMA functions well. Under any Republican it will be destroyed. You think Mitters will come to love FEMA? His party is pledged to dismantle it.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
16. You don't seem to understand. Bush came into office and started destroying FEMA
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:51 AM
Oct 2012

I had a few friends who left the agency in dispair. When Katrina was still a few days out from land, even I knew that all hell would break lose, because I knew FEMA had been intentionally broken and mismanaged.
What you saw after Katrina was a direct result of decision made by Bush which were the opposite of those made by his predecessor Bill Clinton. It is not a case of 'any President' will do more. Not at all. Bush fired Albaugh at FEMA and put Brownie in his place. Heck of a job!
The way FEMA functioned under Bush is the way it would function under any Republican, for they share Bush's ideology and contempt for the agency.

kentuck

(111,078 posts)
17. I do understand that.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:54 AM
Oct 2012

The people will suffer more under any Republican when there is a disaster such as this.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. Then why do you say Willard would come to love FEMA?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:10 AM
Oct 2012

I just do not agree with that statement, I say the GOP hates FEMA. Mitt called it 'immoral'.

kentuck

(111,078 posts)
19. Because he would be politically squeezed to love it...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:18 AM
Oct 2012

If he were in the White House. Power and retaining power is of utmost importance to them - even moreso than anything they may have said about FEMA in the past. They would be slow to do it but you know Mitt. He can change on a dime.

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