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This was the guy the Russians just sent in to save the day: (Original Post) Tomconroy May 2022 OP
He is lucky that he is still alive. Thank You for Posting K and R Stuart G May 2022 #1
Just updated. Tomconroy May 2022 #2
Thank You for the Update. Stuart G May 2022 #4
Awwwww....I'm a sucker for happy endings! Rot in hell war criminals. Comfortably_Numb May 2022 #3
Yeah! I love happy endings too! calimary May 2022 #22
Well, it might be available at some resale shop soon Bucky May 2022 #35
That second guy, Simonov, looks like wnylib May 2022 #51
20 confirmed killed? Cracklin Charlie May 2022 #5
Gerasimov was only wounded the article says. Irish_Dem May 2022 #6
Wounded can mean a lot of things in russian...... getagrip_already May 2022 #8
The article states he took shrapnel to his leg but it did not break any bones GregariousGroundhog May 2022 #40
Other posts.... getagrip_already May 2022 #45
Yes, the articles have been somewhat contradictory peggysue2 May 2022 #58
If it were just a flesh wound of his lower leg.... getagrip_already May 2022 #62
Well now, there's been another report peggysue2 May 2022 #65
he's not dead, he's just resting. Ray Bruns May 2022 #47
Beautiful plumage...n/t bluecollar2 May 2022 #49
Beautiful plumage...n/t bluecollar2 May 2022 #50
'Tis but a scratch! 11 Bravo May 2022 #66
I'm greedy BeyondGeography May 2022 #7
Here's to no recovery KS Toronado May 2022 #21
No arguments here BeyondGeography May 2022 #25
Woopsies, we're those YOUR most senior leaders we hurt? getagrip_already May 2022 #9
War Karma. Who'd a thunk it. LakeArenal May 2022 #10
... Nevilledog May 2022 #11
These made me laugh! Thank you, my dear Nevilledog! ♥ CaliforniaPeggy May 2022 #13
... Nevilledog May 2022 #32
I love that meme... Johnyawl May 2022 #39
LOL. Igel May 2022 #42
Is it me or does that military dress gear look as cheaply made as Chinese prom dresses from Alibaba? TheBlackAdder May 2022 #57
I see a lot of Russian uniforms.... SergeStorms May 2022 #63
Rts🤷‍♂️💕TY Cha May 2022 #12
Read that the first general was transported to Russia for medical treatment .... Lovie777 May 2022 #14
So, *he* was transported to Russia. Igel May 2022 #44
Dead. Fertilizing Ukrainian soil. wnylib May 2022 #53
Pushing up sunflowers. ChazInAz May 2022 #59
🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻 Hekate May 2022 #15
Now that's what I call a surprise party! Native May 2022 #16
R&K 💙💛 MerryBlooms May 2022 #17
Ok the question is...who left their "find my iPhone" setting on???😏.. nt mitch96 May 2022 #18
If accurate, that's quite a hit on the Russian military hierarchy. Fla Dem May 2022 #19
Keep it up, Ukraine!!! COL Mustard May 2022 #20
uhh didn't that last guy's face melt when they opened the Ark??? lapfog_1 May 2022 #23
I thought he looked familiar. niyad May 2022 #41
I just posted a reference to him up thread wnylib May 2022 #52
K&R n/t AntiFascist May 2022 #24
And in other news, Putin had a stroke because of the Ukraine crisis (Don't I wish this was true).... COL Mustard May 2022 #26
GOOD ONE! bif May 2022 #29
"Hryvnia" - unit of Ukrainian money. SergeStorms May 2022 #64
Thanks! COL Mustard May 2022 #67
Just think of the savings the oligarchs can steal from the brass's deaths! erronis May 2022 #27
He wasn't sent to save the day, he was exiled Warpy May 2022 #28
Looks like "The Big Eye In The Sky" spotted where their HQ was... Justice matters. May 2022 #30
I'm Sorry for Creating the 'Gerasimov Doctrine' Celerity May 2022 #31
the second guy... all hat... Demovictory9 May 2022 #33
From the OP subject line, I thought it was gonna be about General Steven Seagal Bucky May 2022 #34
Sadly, it appears to have been just a flesh wound. Crunchy Frog May 2022 #36
From the photo, he appears to be on a permanent bender. Nt spooky3 May 2022 #37
He looks like a caricature of a an old time Soviet officer... Rhiannon12866 May 2022 #38
He is. They are. Igel May 2022 #43
It's as sad as it gets that the old time Soviets have regained power Rhiannon12866 May 2022 #46
Seems more like tsarist rule. wnylib May 2022 #55
This is great news to start my day! Thank you! Glory to Ukraine!!! liberalla May 2022 #48
I'm sure US Intelligence is providing the details DenaliDemocrat May 2022 #54
As the Butcher of Syria its the least he has coming to him. ancianita May 2022 #56
Sing along....'Don't stand so close to me....' flying_wahini May 2022 #60
Lot of room for promotion in the Russian Army lately ZonkerHarris May 2022 #61

calimary

(81,220 posts)
22. Yeah! I love happy endings too!
Sun May 1, 2022, 03:54 PM
May 2022

Especially this kind!

Must say, though, I do like that second guy’s hat.

getagrip_already

(14,738 posts)
8. Wounded can mean a lot of things in russian......
Sun May 1, 2022, 03:02 PM
May 2022

It could be anything from his feet are stapled to the perch to he is in hospital with severe injuries.

The Russians wouldn't list a general as injured unless he couldn't perform his duties.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,521 posts)
40. The article states he took shrapnel to his leg but it did not break any bones
Sun May 1, 2022, 05:15 PM
May 2022

Killing off what would essentially be a four star general in the United States would have been a major public relations victory for Ukraine. Hopefully this still rattles Russia's military leadership though.

getagrip_already

(14,738 posts)
45. Other posts....
Sun May 1, 2022, 05:49 PM
May 2022

Said he was injured in the upper legs and hips.

Sounds like his pootin region......

It's on dk. Fun thread.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
58. Yes, the articles have been somewhat contradictory
Mon May 2, 2022, 12:28 PM
May 2022

The first report indicated that the General was wounded by shrapnel in the legs and that he'd been attended to, no biggie. However, yesterday I read that the man's legs and hip were severely wounded and he was transported back to Russia for treatment.

Mysterious.

getagrip_already

(14,738 posts)
62. If it were just a flesh wound of his lower leg....
Mon May 2, 2022, 02:00 PM
May 2022

He wouldn't have left the front. They are sending soldiers with injuries like that back into action.

Being medivaced is a pretty clear sign he is out of action. This is a serious pr issue for the pootists.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
65. Well now, there's been another report
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:33 PM
May 2022

According to Mark Hertling (a retired American General), the Russian General (Gerasimov) was not even wounded because he had left for Moscow prior to the HQ attack.

Round and round we go.

BeyondGeography

(39,370 posts)
7. I'm greedy
Sun May 1, 2022, 02:58 PM
May 2022

Killing Gerasimov would have been right up there with sinking the Moskva. But I’m sure the old villain was shaken to the core. Here’s to a difficult recovery and better luck next time.

getagrip_already

(14,738 posts)
9. Woopsies, we're those YOUR most senior leaders we hurt?
Sun May 1, 2022, 03:04 PM
May 2022

We are so terribly sorry (not sorry) for all the bother.

So bad, so sad.

TheBlackAdder

(28,186 posts)
57. Is it me or does that military dress gear look as cheaply made as Chinese prom dresses from Alibaba?
Mon May 2, 2022, 12:24 PM
May 2022

.




Or really bad cosplay outfits.





.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
63. I see a lot of Russian uniforms....
Mon May 2, 2022, 02:23 PM
May 2022

at auctions. At least their old uniforms, circa 1950s-70s. They're very well made. I think they hold up much better than their tanks.

Lovie777

(12,246 posts)
14. Read that the first general was transported to Russia for medical treatment ....
Sun May 1, 2022, 03:23 PM
May 2022

the severity unknown but shrapnel was reported one of the main causes for his injuries.

Claim is that Putin has overtaking the ins and outs of all of the "war strategy" now. Then I hear of medical problems.

Fla Dem

(23,654 posts)
19. If accurate, that's quite a hit on the Russian military hierarchy.
Sun May 1, 2022, 03:38 PM
May 2022

Maybe they should consider retirement.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
52. I just posted a reference to him up thread
Mon May 2, 2022, 11:34 AM
May 2022

before I saw your post.

Striking resemblance, isn't it?

Probably just as fascist on the inside, too.

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
26. And in other news, Putin had a stroke because of the Ukraine crisis (Don't I wish this was true)....
Sun May 1, 2022, 04:13 PM
May 2022

A few years later, he wakes up, gets back on his feet and walks out of his hospital room, right past the sleeping guard.

He walks out of the hospital onto the streets of Moscow, and finds that most people don't recognize him. Several years of vegetative coma seem to have taken its toll on his appearance. After wandering around for a bit, he stumbles into the nearest bar. He sits down at the bar and orders a full glass of vodka.

He sips nervously and musters the courage to ask the bartender: "What year is it?"

The bartender is confused, but replies: "2025..."

Putin takes another sip of his drink to process this information. He then asks: "And Crimea, is it still ours?"

Bartender proudly replies: "Still ours!"

Putin nods in approval and takes another sip. Then, he follows: "And Kiev, is it also ours?"

Bartender replies: "Kiev also ours."

A big, happy grin appears on Putin's face, as he finally finishes the drink and asks the bartender: "How much for the vodka?"

Bartender: "100 hryvnias!"

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
64. "Hryvnia" - unit of Ukrainian money.
Mon May 2, 2022, 02:36 PM
May 2022

Similar to the U.S. dollar.

For those not aware of Hryvnia's meaning.

Just thought I'd throw that in there, COL Mustard. Maybe more people will get the joke.

Good one, by the way.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
27. Just think of the savings the oligarchs can steal from the brass's deaths!
Sun May 1, 2022, 04:14 PM
May 2022

All that pension money from the deceased soldiers going directly off-shore.

And don't try to tell me russia would honor any agreements to pay widows, children, etc.

Warpy

(111,253 posts)
28. He wasn't sent to save the day, he was exiled
Sun May 1, 2022, 04:17 PM
May 2022

Most in the west who care about such things considered him a brilliant military strategist.

Unfortunately, the strategy might have worked for the west's military. It didn't work for Russia's military. So he's been booted out of the Kremlin and booted out of Putin's inner circle and sent to the front in harm's way.

Now he's got a big target on his back and a near miss to his credit.

Celerity

(43,333 posts)
31. I'm Sorry for Creating the 'Gerasimov Doctrine'
Sun May 1, 2022, 04:33 PM
May 2022
I was the first to write about Russia’s infamous high-tech military strategy. One small problem: it doesn't exist.

BY MARK GALEOTTI | MARCH 5, 2018

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/05/im-sorry-for-creating-the-gerasimov-doctrine/

https://archive.ph/832SB#selection-1353.0-1387.23

Everywhere, you’ll find scholars, pundits, and policymakers talking about the threat the “Gerasimov doctrine” — named after Russia’s chief of the general staff — poses to the West. It’s a new way of war, “an expanded theory of modern warfare,” or even “a vision of total warfare.” There’s one small problem. It doesn’t exist. And the longer we pretend it does, the longer we misunderstand the — real, but different — challenge Russia poses.

I feel I can say that because, to my immense chagrin, I created this term, which has since acquired a destructive life of its own, lumbering clumsily into the world to spread fear and loathing in its wake. Back in February 2013, the Russian newspaper Military-Industrial Courier — as exciting and widely read as it sounds — reprinted a speech by Gen. Valery Gerasimov. It talks of how in the modern world, the use of propaganda and subversion means that “a perfectly thriving state can, in a matter of months and even days, be transformed into an arena of fierce armed conflict, become a victim of foreign intervention, and sink into a web of chaos, humanitarian catastrophe, and civil war.”

It largely passed unnoticed, but Robert Coalson of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, the U.S. government-funded TV and radio service broadcasting to Russia and other unfree countries, picked up on it and translated it. He sent it to me and, with his permission, I published the translation on my blog, with my own comments. A blog is as much as anything else a vanity site; obviously I want people to read it. So for a snappy title, I coined the term “Gerasimov doctrine,” though even then I noted in the text that this term was nothing more than “a placeholder,” and “it certainly isn’t a doctrine.” I didn’t think people would genuinely believe either that he came up with it (Gerasimov is a tough and effective chief of the general staff, but no theoretician), less yet than it was a “programmatic” blueprint for war on the West.

But then came the annexation of Crimea, when “little green men” — commandos without insignia — seized the peninsula with scarcely a shot fired. This was followed by the Donbass war, fought initially by a motley collection of local thugs, separatists, Russian adventurers, and special forces, accompanied by a barrage of lurid Russian propaganda. Suddenly, it seemed that Gerasimov had indeed been describing what was to come, had we but realized it. Prone, as ever, to overcompensation, Western mainstream opinion swung from ignoring Gerasimov’s pronouncements to enshrining them as some kind of bleeding-edge blueprint for a new way of war.

snip

Bucky

(53,998 posts)
34. From the OP subject line, I thought it was gonna be about General Steven Seagal
Sun May 1, 2022, 04:43 PM
May 2022

Russians love people who talk tough.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
43. He is. They are.
Sun May 1, 2022, 05:38 PM
May 2022

Like your signature line are caricatures of Xmas puppies and Xmas cats.

Look at their faces, guess their ages.

Shoigu is strictly Soviet. Read his quasi-memoires. Most of the text is utterly boring, trash.

A few times you're chilled. '

Про вчера. Can be hard to find--not many copies printed.

On the otherhand, the publisher, ACT, is a solid publishing house. Sad that they passed this crap.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
46. It's as sad as it gets that the old time Soviets have regained power
Sun May 1, 2022, 05:50 PM
May 2022

I visited the USSR back in the late '80s with my grandmother who joined a peace group which had a "sister town" high in the Caucasus Mountains and this was their initial trip. It was an awesome group of experienced and knowledgeable world travelers - all senior citizens except for one other lady - and me. We met with other peace groups throughout the country and, having experienced the horrors of WWII fought on their own soil, were also dedicated to peace. And this was under Gorbachev who had instituted more progressive policies (glasnost and perestroika, openness and transparency) and there was such hope back then. So my heart also breaks for the Russian people as we see them returning to the dark days of repression and Soviet-style rule.

liberalla

(9,243 posts)
48. This is great news to start my day! Thank you! Glory to Ukraine!!!
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:59 AM
May 2022

Eta:. Don't know how I missed it yesterday! ???

DenaliDemocrat

(1,476 posts)
54. I'm sure US Intelligence is providing the details
Mon May 2, 2022, 11:42 AM
May 2022

And honestly, good for us. In my opinion, when Russia tried to interfere in our elections they declared war. Fuck them.

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