Sat Apr 23, 2022, 09:42 PM

Katie Porter leads letter urging Biden not to dump more money into Medicare Advantage

By Jake Johnson, Common Dreams
Published April 23, 2022

Democratic Rep. Katie Porter led a group of lawmakers this week in urging the Biden administration not to increase taxpayer funding for Medicare Advantage plans after a government report showed that the privately run program received $12 billion in overpayments in 2020—a problem driven by insurers exaggerating how sick their enrollees are.

"Medicare Advantage has failed to achieve savings in any year since its inception."

Despite the March report's findings, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) announced earlier this month that Medicare Advantage (MA) plans will see an 8.5% revenue bump on average in 2023—one of the largest payment increases to MA insurers in the program's history.

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Katie Porter leads letter urging Biden not to dump more money into Medicare Advantage (Original post)	turbinetree	Apr 2022	OP
Here's the original link..	Lars39	Apr 2022	#1
Wado................thank you	turbinetree	Apr 2022	#2
You're welcome!	Lars39	Apr 2022	#3
Problem is unaware folks or MAGA folks believe this is a government run Medicare program.	Samrob	Apr 2022	#53
That's what we're INTENDED to believe.	dchill	Apr 2022	#69
I can't afford regular medicare so I have an advanage plan that has great coverage and I really	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#163
You won't have NO insurance -	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#180
Medicare Advantage is a poison pill that needs to be redone.	dchill	Apr 2022	#4
So true and that in my opinion is false advertising.......	turbinetree	Apr 2022	#5
False advertising is just one more way to get ahead!	dchill	Apr 2022	#18
Those who love regular Medicare likely have grandfathered in plans that are no longer available.	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#164
Not true.	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#182
We each have Plan G supplemental policies. We've had some very	Hortensis	Apr 2022	#187
Absolutely right!	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#189
Our monthly premium is higher than yours, close to $120/mo per person,	Hortensis	Apr 2022	#198
The plans in my area range from $90 to $150 for a new enrollee betweeen 65 and 69	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#201
Ouch. How nice to have a friend who's an expert in these	Hortensis	Apr 2022	#214
AND that is a point that needs to be publicized in the upcoming elections! Republicans (trump)	BComplex	Apr 2022	#71
No one sees it like that amd such rhetoric will cost us the election. Older DUers have plans	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#83
there are DUers who love their Medicare Advantage	Skittles	Apr 2022	#6
Trouble is, it seems we're all subsidizing it.	dchill	Apr 2022	#17
NO SHIT - it is FOR PROFIT	Skittles	Apr 2022	#36
The wraps for traditional Medicare cost money too.	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#78
Many here have good regular Medicare plans that are no longer offered.	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#81
Actually F was replaced with G, which is very similar to F, but G has more co-pays	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#117
Exactly, it has more copays thus it is not a good plan. My advantage plan is much better.	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#131
If they had Kaiser in my area, I'd sign up. I prefer coordinated care.	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#137
You are right. If everything is at one place it is much easier to co-ordinate the care where	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#148
It is not similar as it costs way more, has higher deductibles and huge out of pocket costs.	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#177
I am in Ohio, on original medicare, and my total deductible and out-of-pocket costs are $233/year.	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#184
That is not correct. G does not have co-pays.	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#183
My spouse was eligible for both the "good regular Medicare plan{} that {is} no longer offered	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#181
Agree	SCantiGOP	Apr 2022	#56
There are two tracts of Medicare Advantage plans.	pazzyanne	Apr 2022	#61
Well I would likely not be able to get medical treatment with regular Medicare...it is too	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#165
Exactly. Medicare Advantage is very profitable for the insurance companies	dflprincess	Apr 2022	#10
And we'll all be paying for it.	dchill	Apr 2022	#13
I agree. I heard n read Thom Hartman's many articles	Deuxcents	Apr 2022	#26
You don't think Medigap plans are profitable for insurance companies?	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#122
Apparently not as profitable or they'd push them harder.	dflprincess	Apr 2022	#129
The premiums for standard Medicare and a Medigap plan are significantly more expensive,	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#150
I'm aware of how much traditional Medicare + supplements will cost me	dflprincess	Apr 2022	#155
I agree. No argument from me, but that sure isn't going to happen before the midterms, and	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#156
Not if you choose wisely.	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#185
Which supplemental are you talking about? G, H, or if you are fortunate F. Yes I am including	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#202
Of course they are...they have huge deductibles and out of pocket costs and there premiums	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#166
Depends on which supplemental you have how much out of pocket expenses, and directly related to	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#168
Where are you getting your numbers?	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#186
A few months ago, during the enrolement period, I read an article fron some	napi21	Apr 2022	#11
Yes. It's basically a scam.	dchill	Apr 2022	#14
I think Joe Namath has had more tv exposure time in the ads than as a football star.	keithbvadu2	Apr 2022	#57
Yea, it's weird. Honestly, would you ever buy an insurance plan because some FB player or	napi21	Apr 2022	#60
No it isn't. Not anymore than a supplemental is?	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#123
as with other insurance scams	Skittles	Apr 2022	#39
Then are you saying Medigap plans are a "scam" also?	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#124
Your numbers are way off.	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#204
For supplemental F for 2 is $400. No out of pocket deductibles. Part B $170, Part D 200	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#206
They can always skip a supplemental plan (although I wouldn't advise it).	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#208
Everyone needs to determine their own comfort level and what they can afford. The fact	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#210
My point is that if they can't afford the premiums for a supplement,	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#211
I am not manipulating anything. I never said that 1600 was for two people. I said that was	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#212
You didn't say it was for two people, but all your prior numbers were for two people	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#215
I don't think we are really in disagreement on this.	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#216
I have had a medigap plan for at least 10 years & there haven't been any scams or	napi21	Apr 2022	#162
And you plan is likely no longer available. I suggest you look at what is available and then	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#167
This year on renewal our agent offered alternative Plan G supplemental	Hortensis	Apr 2022	#190
The corresponding new plans do not have out-of-pocket expenses, nor are the deductibles "way higher"	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#209
First of all the premiums can range from 93 to 900 dollars...and they don't include Medicare B...	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#217
The G plans are not mostly in the $300-$400 range in Ohio.	Ms. Toad	May 2022	#220
That's a whole other kettle of fish. Most people will be stuck with MA once they make that choice.	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#188
Technically you are still on Medicare when you have an Advantage plan because the plan is	in2herbs	Apr 2022	#21
Exactly. One couldn't convert to an Advantage Plan if it wasn't. Also, a lot of	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#126
not redone -eliminated.	notinkansas	Apr 2022	#63
Well, that's one way to redo it!	dchill	Apr 2022	#68
Yes	PatSeg	Apr 2022	#76
Oh wow..I did not know this..My mom switched to this so that	helpisontheway	Apr 2022	#112
That is not true. You are still under Medicare or you wouldn't be able to get a Medicare Advantage	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#118
Oh okay. Thank you for info. Nt	helpisontheway	Apr 2022	#157
If your mom just switched -	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#191
Not true. It is for people who can't afford standard Medicare with a Medigap plan	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#121
I have a lot of trouble understanding the hate for Medicare Advantage.	PoindexterOglethorpe	Apr 2022	#7
I agree with you about Medicare Advantage. My parents had a Medicare Advantage plan and they	skylucy	Apr 2022	#8
I have never enrolled in one of these advantage plans, my wife mother and father had enrolled	turbinetree	Apr 2022	#9
The money that goes "back into your Social Security check..."	dchill	Apr 2022	#16
I don't pay a Medicare Advantage premium. What insurance company charges a premium	in2herbs	Apr 2022	#22
It depends on exactly what kind of coverage you want or need.	PoindexterOglethorpe	Apr 2022	#95
On a Plan G supplement, your costs for all care for 2021 would have been $203. n/t.	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#192
Depending on where I live.	PoindexterOglethorpe	Apr 2022	#203
The deductible is fixed by the federal government, and is the same nationally.	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#207
Many Aren't Eligible, Anyway	ProfessorGAC	Apr 2022	#114
Are you talking about the monthly fee for Medicare if your income is above	PoindexterOglethorpe	Apr 2022	#205
Yes, I'm Talking About That	ProfessorGAC	Apr 2022	#213
+ 1	pazzyanne	Apr 2022	#64
Your friend either doesn't have a supplemental plan, or has bad information.	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#199
Oh great, let's screw over 42% of Medicare beneficiaries-- many here -	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#12
they are helping privatize Medicare	Skittles	Apr 2022	#20
Trump started the ball rolling on that while in office and Biden is not stopping it and I	in2herbs	Apr 2022	#23
it is still something	Skittles	Apr 2022	#25
Yeah, Bill Clinton's program was designed to hurt people. Sorry,	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#24
uh huh	Skittles	Apr 2022	#29
Good, DailyKoz thinks the 42% of people who choose Advantage are too stupid	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#31
it's not just "DailyKoz"	Skittles	Apr 2022	#33
Didn't read the article, and hate the sales tactics. But, DUers are on Advantage plans	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#34
there are a lot of DUers on FB, too	Skittles	Apr 2022	#35
Glad to know you know what's best for the 42% who choose MA.	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#37
so 42% are for privatization of Medicare	Skittles	Apr 2022	#38
No. 42% are for a health plan that best meets their need, not your desires.	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#44
You keep using this 42% number as if that somehow justifies the programme. If you give people	Celerity	Apr 2022	#42
Thank you. Americans are well aware of our cruddy healthcare system.	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#49
point is TODAY (or during annual enrollment)	stopdiggin	Apr 2022	#67
If you choose MA today, you will almost certainly not be able to get Medicare supplement later on.	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#196
I was very nearly "stupid" enough to choose a Medicare Advantage plan (which would have	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#195
So your supplement cost you just under $169 a month with deductible.	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#197
Our supplemental drug plans (for 2) cost $19.10/month.	Ms. Toad	Apr 2022	#193
I think some people choose it not knowing what it is	leftstreet	Apr 2022	#40
Glad you know what they need. Some people can't afford	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#41
lol no I don't know what people need	leftstreet	Apr 2022	#43
Exactly .	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#79
what's the alternative?	Takket	Apr 2022	#15
The US healthcare system is designed for wealth extraction and redistribution, from the broad base	Celerity	Apr 2022	#19
Yet 42% of Medicare beneficiaries choose Advantage. Guess they are just	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#27
just because it is ok for some doesn't mean the overall system is a positive	Celerity	Apr 2022	#28
Didn't say it was, but it is reality for those of us who have to make that	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#47
The reality simply has to change for the better. The current track is headed for a train wreck.	Celerity	Apr 2022	#50
Agree. But that's not situation here now. We don't have your health system.	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#52
Well, encouraging/rewarding the rapacious for-profit private heath insurance industry to do further	Celerity	Apr 2022	#54
Appreciate criticism and shoddiness of our healthcare system, but it's what we have	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#55
Hoyt, that's so depressing to hear you (a very intelligent person) frame it in such fatalistic terms	Celerity	Apr 2022	#59
Appreciate it. But, it's not fatalistic to oppose screwing up to 42% of Medicare	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#65
People have to deal with the here and now. Regular Medicare has ended their best plans and	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#86
why did this happen?	Celerity	Apr 2022	#97
Medi-gap plans are done through private insuerers;they charge large premims, have big deductible and	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#169
+1	leftstreet	Apr 2022	#45
you haven't answered the question	stopdiggin	Apr 2022	#70
remove the profit motive	Celerity	Apr 2022	#72
OK. Does this happen in time for	stopdiggin	Apr 2022	#91
shop around, I am sure you will manage nt	Celerity	Apr 2022	#96
have you priced Medicare supplimentals recently?	stopdiggin	Apr 2022	#98
I wanted to do regular Medicare and shopped around extensively-$300 or $400 per month	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#170
US healthcare's a scam, EOS, a joke, no one else in the world runs it like the US, for good reason	Celerity	Apr 2022	#178
We need...	JoeOtterbein	Apr 2022	#30
But "now" is literally 1000% impossible. So is anytime soon --	Hortensis	Apr 2022	#194
Rep. Porter is the walking, breathing definition of "servant of the people", a treasure!	bringthePaine	Apr 2022	#32
Really?	mcar	Apr 2022	#101
Think we know the answer to that. Good question.	Budi	Apr 2022	#110
Change does not come from a slogan alone.	sheshe2	Apr 2022	#119
'Burn it all down' was always the rallying cry.	Budi	Apr 2022	#127
Yes it is pitiful.	sheshe2	Apr 2022	#128
Somehow my reply to this got lost in the ether	mcar	Apr 2022	#138
It is that. We have no idea what M4A even is.	Budi	Apr 2022	#145
Yep, just like cancel student debt	mcar	Apr 2022	#146
Yup.	Budi	Apr 2022	#151
My big complaint is that Medicare Advantage gets paid more for their coverage from CMS.	halfulglas	Apr 2022	#46
I'm staying out of this one.	NBachers	Apr 2022	#48
I had an excellent insurance advisor who advised me against using this program. Said it was a scam	Samrob	Apr 2022	#51
Yeah, he probably sold supplemental policies and drug plans.	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#90
Exactly, I found out after having to shell out 2500 for my sister in laws' surgery that there was	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#139
After reading up on it, MA is more of a HMO and it was less risky to pay the Part B for better cover	keithbvadu2	Apr 2022	#58
If you can afford it...many can't. And if you take a bad wraparound...you have to pay the	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#84
Exactly. Understand some people don't like "privatization," but why penalize/bash people who can't	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#92
That is absolutely correct. The medigap policies also come from insurance companies...I	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#141
k&r nt	orleans	Apr 2022	#62
One risk pool is a health care system. Multiple risk pools is an investment scheme.	Ron Green	Apr 2022	#66
I love my Advantage Plus plan.	leftyladyfrommo	Apr 2022	#73
I do too . They refund half of part B	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#82
Many doctors will likely tell you they do not like Medicare Advantage plans because	Emile	Apr 2022	#74
Politicians writing letters that urge a Democratic president to cut medicare funding	lapucelle	Apr 2022	#75
It is fucking insanity...we could lose Congress over this...hope Biden ignores it and only those	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#87
Indeed. Who benefits from the narrative that a Democratic president is cutting Medicare funding?	lapucelle	Apr 2022	#89
I know I trust and respect President	Cha	Apr 2022	#113
Facts are our friends.	lapucelle	Apr 2022	#115
And you are the best at investigating	Cha	Apr 2022	#116
I absolutely agree Cha.	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#143
I see you do, Dmes..	Cha	Apr 2022	#154
I do to...do your job Congress. And please every once in a while remember this is a f'ing	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#142
This is akin to "defund the police"	mcar	Apr 2022	#99
I like Medicare advantage. Millions do.	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#77
+100! I am one of those who is very happy with my Medicare Advantage plan.	skylucy	Apr 2022	#125
Me too.	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#130
Katie Porter endangers her reelection . As many like Medicare advantage,	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#80
The first year of my retirement I was on an advantage plan. I found out	Emile	Apr 2022	#85
The one my sis has allow travel...and you have to choose what you can afford. regular medicare ...	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#88
If you buy plans from large insurers, travel is not an issue. People who take a local plan, often	Hoyt	Apr 2022	#93
I have a large insurer so no worries.	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#133
Sure you can, just make sure the doctors, clinics and hospitals are	Emile	Apr 2022	#104
my Advantage Plan has doctors and hospitals out of area...and I don't think folks don't	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#132
Let's let Biden do the talking from now on. Attacking Medicare Advantage seems foolish to me.	gulliver	Apr 2022	#94
"Democrats want to take away your Medicare"	mcar	Apr 2022	#100
We spend too much time worrying about what the Republicans will say and not doing what's right.	Cuthbert Allgood	Apr 2022	#102
that's because the Republicans control the media	mcar	Apr 2022	#103
Why are you concerned with "offending Republicans"?	lapucelle	Apr 2022	#106
Well, the post I replied to said:	Cuthbert Allgood	Apr 2022	#107
What does that have to do with offending Republicans?	lapucelle	Apr 2022	#111
I stand by my statement	mcar	Apr 2022	#140
If you have medicare advantage	Progressive dog	Apr 2022	#105
My Advantage plan pays half of Part B.	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#136
Hell yeah. Go away JJ Walker and Joe Namath. Shove your "CALL NOW" up your ass.	Hotler	Apr 2022	#108
I'm confused about MA	XanaDUer2	Apr 2022	#109
No, that won't happen. You never get back what you get rid of...and there would be hell	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#144
Guess what Katie Porter, straight Medicare with a Medigap has gone up significantly also,	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#120
This message was self-deleted by its author	Budi	Apr 2022	#134
We'll be waiting till the dust layers form to hear an actual policy plan.	Budi	Apr 2022	#135
Well said Budi	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#149
👍	Budi	Apr 2022	#152
Why would she do this now during a midterm...people fearing the loss of the Advantage	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#147
+++	JohnSJ	Apr 2022	#153
Lobbyists win again	Chuuku Davis	Apr 2022	#158
Maybe Ms Porter should look at how expensive it is for regular Medicare and taking away	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#159
Yet again it's the messaging. Rather than offering up an open goal to the GOP, could they not have	OnDoutside	Apr 2022	#160
Wouldn't it be better to just dump Medicare	Emile	Apr 2022	#161
Sure and we have zero chance of doing that. I want a unicorn too...and have as much change of	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#172
That's a big problem with our politicians, they don't represent us! They	Emile	Apr 2022	#173
They are representing the millions who want to keep private insurance and don't want	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#175
Oh I thought you agreed with Single Payer, but never mind. . .	Emile	Apr 2022	#176
Never underestimate Katie Porter's brilliance. She knows what	Emile	Apr 2022	#171
Her seat was Republicans for years...hope all is well there...we need her to be reelected even	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#174
I think she will be reelected because she's not afraid to govern like a democrat.	Emile	Apr 2022	#179
I hope so.	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#200
Sorry I don't see sending Biden notes demanding this or that governing...not in Congress.	Demsrule86	Apr 2022	#218
"Democrats want to take your Medicare away from you."	BlueIdaho	Apr 2022	#219

Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Apr 23, 2022, 09:46 PM

Lars39 (25,888 posts)

1. Here's the original link..

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/22/katie-porter-leads-letter-urging-biden-not-dump-more-money-medicare-advantage

Katie Porter leads letter urging Biden not to dump more money into Medicare Advantage

1. Here's the original link..

2. Wado................thank you

3. You're welcome!

53. Problem is unaware folks or MAGA folks believe this is a government run Medicare program.

69. That's what we're INTENDED to believe.

163. I can't afford regular medicare so I have an advanage plan that has great coverage and I really

180. You won't have NO insurance -

4. Medicare Advantage is a poison pill that needs to be redone.

5. So true and that in my opinion is false advertising.......

18. False advertising is just one more way to get ahead!

164. Those who love regular Medicare likely have grandfathered in plans that are no longer available.

182. Not true.

187. We each have Plan G supplemental policies. We've had some very

189. Absolutely right!

198. Our monthly premium is higher than yours, close to $120/mo per person,

201. The plans in my area range from $90 to $150 for a new enrollee betweeen 65 and 69

214. Ouch. How nice to have a friend who's an expert in these

71. AND that is a point that needs to be publicized in the upcoming elections! Republicans (trump)

83. No one sees it like that amd such rhetoric will cost us the election. Older DUers have plans

6. there are DUers who love their Medicare Advantage

17. Trouble is, it seems we're all subsidizing it.

36. NO SHIT - it is FOR PROFIT

78. The wraps for traditional Medicare cost money too.

81. Many here have good regular Medicare plans that are no longer offered.

117. Actually F was replaced with G, which is very similar to F, but G has more co-pays

131. Exactly, it has more copays thus it is not a good plan. My advantage plan is much better.

137. If they had Kaiser in my area, I'd sign up. I prefer coordinated care.

148. You are right. If everything is at one place it is much easier to co-ordinate the care where

177. It is not similar as it costs way more, has higher deductibles and huge out of pocket costs.

184. I am in Ohio, on original medicare, and my total deductible and out-of-pocket costs are $233/year.

183. That is not correct. G does not have co-pays.

181. My spouse was eligible for both the "good regular Medicare plan{} that {is} no longer offered

56. Agree

61. There are two tracts of Medicare Advantage plans.

165. Well I would likely not be able to get medical treatment with regular Medicare...it is too

10. Exactly. Medicare Advantage is very profitable for the insurance companies

13. And we'll all be paying for it.

26. I agree. I heard n read Thom Hartman's many articles

122. You don't think Medigap plans are profitable for insurance companies?

129. Apparently not as profitable or they'd push them harder.

150. The premiums for standard Medicare and a Medigap plan are significantly more expensive,

155. I'm aware of how much traditional Medicare + supplements will cost me

156. I agree. No argument from me, but that sure isn't going to happen before the midterms, and

185. Not if you choose wisely.

202. Which supplemental are you talking about? G, H, or if you are fortunate F. Yes I am including

166. Of course they are...they have huge deductibles and out of pocket costs and there premiums

168. Depends on which supplemental you have how much out of pocket expenses, and directly related to

186. Where are you getting your numbers?

11. A few months ago, during the enrolement period, I read an article fron some

14. Yes. It's basically a scam.

57. I think Joe Namath has had more tv exposure time in the ads than as a football star.

60. Yea, it's weird. Honestly, would you ever buy an insurance plan because some FB player or

123. No it isn't. Not anymore than a supplemental is?

39. as with other insurance scams

124. Then are you saying Medigap plans are a "scam" also?

204. Your numbers are way off.

206. For supplemental F for 2 is $400. No out of pocket deductibles. Part B $170, Part D 200

208. They can always skip a supplemental plan (although I wouldn't advise it).

210. Everyone needs to determine their own comfort level and what they can afford. The fact

211. My point is that if they can't afford the premiums for a supplement,

212. I am not manipulating anything. I never said that 1600 was for two people. I said that was

215. You didn't say it was for two people, but all your prior numbers were for two people

216. I don't think we are really in disagreement on this.

162. I have had a medigap plan for at least 10 years & there haven't been any scams or

167. And you plan is likely no longer available. I suggest you look at what is available and then

190. This year on renewal our agent offered alternative Plan G supplemental

209. The corresponding new plans do not have out-of-pocket expenses, nor are the deductibles "way higher"

217. First of all the premiums can range from 93 to 900 dollars...and they don't include Medicare B...

220. The G plans are not mostly in the $300-$400 range in Ohio.

188. That's a whole other kettle of fish. Most people will be stuck with MA once they make that choice.

21. Technically you are still on Medicare when you have an Advantage plan because the plan is

126. Exactly. One couldn't convert to an Advantage Plan if it wasn't. Also, a lot of

63. not redone -eliminated.

68. Well, that's one way to redo it!

76. Yes

112. Oh wow..I did not know this..My mom switched to this so that

118. That is not true. You are still under Medicare or you wouldn't be able to get a Medicare Advantage

157. Oh okay. Thank you for info. Nt

191. If your mom just switched -