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Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:43 PM

This isn't meant to be a slap at anyone, that isn't my intention,

but, just out of curiosity, how many DUer's have actual combat experience?

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Reply This isn't meant to be a slap at anyone, that isn't my intention, (Original post)
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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:45 PM

1. Are you asking us to guess?

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Response to NewHendoLib (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:50 PM

7. No, I'm just curious as to have many members here have combat experience. nt

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:46 PM

2. And Why are you asking?

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Response to essaynnc (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:50 PM

8. Just curious.

As I said, this isn't meant to be a slap or a slight at anyone.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:46 PM

3. Served 3 years but missed Gulf 1

Didnít volunteer either.

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Response to underpants (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:00 PM

26. Thank you for your service. nt

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:46 PM

4. Closest I got was coming under attack from an Iraqi SCUD missile.

Deployed to the Gulf in 1991 as an M1 Abrams tanker. The ground war started and ended during our desert warfare train-up, so I didn't serve in combat. But I did take hostile fire.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:52 PM

11. Thank you for your service,

I served in the Gulf war also, saw first hand the destruction of the Iraqi Army as they tried to leave Kuwait.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:46 PM

5. I don't but there are lots of vets here.

Hi!

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Response to redwitch (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:53 PM

12. +100. nt

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:48 PM

6. I have been under fire

Not in combat.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:54 PM

14. IMO, that counts.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:27 PM

39. Same here.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:51 PM

9. No. I was in Vietnam for a year (1967) but nowhere close to combat

Thank goodness.

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Response to Glorfindel (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:55 PM

16. Believe me,

you didn't miss anything.
Thank you for your service.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:52 PM

10. Why would anyone think it was a slap?

You could have just asked without the qualifier

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:56 PM

19. Because some might take this the wrong way,

so I wanted to make it clear that it wasn't meant to be that.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:53 PM

13. I'm a veteran, but not a combat veteran.

I was on the intelligence side.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:57 PM

21. Thank you for your service. nt

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:02 PM

29. On the intelligence side, with intelligence on your side

A good combo. I don't always agree with you, but you definitely strike me as a smart guy.

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Response to Silent3 (Reply #29)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:17 PM

36. That's very kind of you to say.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:55 PM

50. Same

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Response to marie999 (Reply #50)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:25 PM

52. Thank you for your service.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:54 PM

15. Served but never saw combat

I was in the Army post Vietnam 1970's. The closest this country came to war when I was in was an incident in the Korean DMZ.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:58 PM

22. Thank you for your service, nt

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:56 PM

17. I do not

I've never been in the military and so naturally never saw combat.

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Response to Ohio Joe (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:58 PM

23. Thank you. nt

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:56 PM

18. I've been married 47 years. 'Nuff said.

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Response to 634-5789 (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:59 PM

24. LOL.

Yeah, you've been in combat a few times.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 01:56 PM

20. I was under fire during Gulf War I

Which was nothing compared to Hay Street in Fayettenam.

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Response to Abnredleg (Reply #20)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:00 PM

25. Thank you for your service. nt

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:01 PM

27. Yes.

But it is not a discussion?

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Response to pwb (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:02 PM

30. Thank you for your service. nt

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:01 PM

28. Here it comes.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #28)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:03 PM

32. Please clarify. nt

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:02 PM

31. thank you

yes indeed

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Response to Skittles (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:04 PM

33. Thank you for your service Skittles,

if I remember, you served in the USAF?

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #33)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:13 PM

34. I tell you

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I am almost glad my English mum is not around to see what is happening in Ukraine, she survived bombs as a child in WWII....it is something people never truly get over. Me, I know what it feels like as a kid to suddenly lose home, family, school, country......that is traumatizing even without war.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #34)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:16 PM

35. +100. nt

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #35)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:07 PM

113. may I ask

were you part of a military family growing up

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Response to Skittles (Reply #113)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:34 PM

117. Yes,

my late dad fought in the Pacific, island hopping.
He was supposed to be in the first wave of landings for the invasion of Japan, but turned out that he was in the first wave to occupy Japan.

He was actually against me joining the Marines and volunteering for duty in Vietnam, he wanted me to head for Canada, but I just couldn't do it, so the rest is history.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #117)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:50 PM

125. wow

I was recently talking to a coworker who said he lived in the same house on the same street while growing up, before going to college.....I cannot even imagine, we moved every couple of years, sometimes overseas

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Response to Skittles (Reply #34)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:29 PM

41. +1

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Response to Skittles (Reply #34)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:54 PM

110. Dad was in Portsmouth when the bombing started

Eventually he and his sister were evacuated to Petersfield.

Mum was evacuated from Burma to India when the Japanese invaded. Very similar to present Ukraine in that my Grandmother, Aunts and children were all evacuated to India by train and boat while the men stayed with the British Army to prevent the Japanese advance.

My mum passed before this but I'm glad she didn't have to see it.

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Response to bluecollar2 (Reply #110)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:05 PM

112. I remember walking through a shoe department in a store with mum

she suddenly grabbed me and said, we have to get out of here! She hurried us out, I was like, wtf is going on.....it was a rubber smell in the shoe department, it reminded her of wearing a gas mask as a child....she had asthma and would sometimes choke.....this incident was DECADES later

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Response to Skittles (Reply #112)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:16 PM

114. After the war my Grandad moved to London

I vaguely remember visiting his home in Kingston. There was an area still fenced off that hadn't been fully cleared by the bomb squad.

Some of us crawled under the fence to get apples off a tree. All hell broke loose when adults saw us playing in there.

The war left a strong impression on our family as it appears it did yours..

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:17 PM

37. 21 months in Iraq

Mainly Baghdad and Ramadi, with exception to 3 months in Mosul.

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Response to DetroitLegalBeagle (Reply #37)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:27 PM

53. Very rough gig.

Thank you for your service Army.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:19 PM

38. No I was lucky.

The ground war was over in Desert Storm before we went. So I never left Bragg.

We did however run an assault course at Benning. Where we low crawled while they shot M60ís over and exploded some demo (I think) in sand bagged pits beside us. No way of getting hurt.




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Response to DashOneBravo (Reply #38)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:28 PM

54. Thank you for your service.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:29 PM

40. 7 years active service in USMC, no combat...

and that was at the end of Viet Nam, '70-77.

Just lucky, I guess.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #40)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:30 PM

56. Thank you for your service.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:30 PM

42. Does this include activities on Black Fridays?

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:32 PM

43. I will on the very day that my home town is invaded.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:35 PM

44. Present

8th Marnines Desert Storm, cross attached HHBN 34TH ID Operation OIF






And thanks to all who have served whether you have "seen the elephant" or not

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #44)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:48 PM

58. ...

And thanks to all who have served whether you have "seen the elephant" or not


A big thumbs up.

I was with the 2nd Engineer Battalion, 2nd Marine Division operating an M-9 ACE, we, and a company of Naval Seabees, watched the destruction of the Iraqi Army trying to leave Kuwait City, Naval and Marine air assets destroyed the column.

It was aptly named the Highway of Hell.

We may have run into each other during our careers, the Corps isn't all that big.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #58)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:04 PM

70. We definitely walked the same sand

I was a Hollywood Marine less than a year out of boot camp when I was sent to 8th Marnines.

We headed to Wafra and engaged Iraqi forces at the second mine belt. After that I was part of a recon team (small r) that became entangled in the tank battle in the oilfield south of the city. We were stuck on the wrong side of the line taking potshots with LAWs when we could get away with it. We arrived at the Highway just as it finished.

If you were involved in cutting the minefield paths I very well may have been providing overwatch for you.

Here's to the time we passed at Lejeune without knowing

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #70)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:09 PM

73. Us and the Seabees were involved in clearing mine fields

and this Marine and, I'm sure the Seabees, greatly appreciated you guys providing security for us.

Small world.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #70)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:17 PM

77. M-9 ACE (Armored Combat Earthmover)




Basically a dozer on steroids.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #77)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:26 PM

83. Holy Chesty Puller

I may have a picture of you- at least in the ACE. I snapped a shot of one approaching the first belt.

I was about 100m to starboard laying on a berm with my 16, right behind me was a open back hummer with a Mk 40 mounted on a homemade contraption like the Rat Patrol. We had the seabees reinforce the cargo deck and build pintles so we could mount heavy weapons to our vehicles.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #83)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:30 PM

85. That would be quite the coincidence.

You may very well have gotten my ACE.

Loved those Seabees, a crazier bunch of sailors I've never met.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #85)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:42 PM

90. That really would be amazing

If you were the driver.

Corpsmen, SEALs and Seabees- always got along with them. I think that fact that we all ate dirt at some point meant we could understand each other

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #90)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:46 PM

91. +100. nt

Here's to time in the Corps, some good, some not so good, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:35 PM

45. 7 months in Iraq, 2003 Baghdad airport, convoyed in from Kuwait, RPGs, mortar attacks, small arms

Tracer fire over our heads every night on the perimeter of BIAP. Mostly RPGs, on the flight out leaving our plane shot off it's flares ,BANG, BANG, BANG, on evasive twisty flight path. yeah that was crazy.

Many trips to Kuwait for Southern Watch, no-fly zone

Not to mention contra-guerilla units in South America in the jungles of Colombia


Why do you ask?

I hate war

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Response to Shanti Shanti Shanti (Reply #45)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:50 PM

60. Thank you for your service.



Anyone who has ever experienced war hates it, I like saying that I went to Vietnam as a Repuke, I came home as a Democrat.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:36 PM

46. Served but no to combat--unless you count the past two years dealing with COVID-deniers and

rabid Trumpist anti-vaxxer combatants.

(only about 90% sarcastic in that comparison).

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #46)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:52 PM

61. Thank you for your service,

and I would count that as combatants.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:38 PM

47. Thailand in '72 and '75

and a few other places in Asia in between. Did commo stuff for certain 3 letter agencies. Never got shot at directly.

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Response to dumbcat (Reply #47)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:53 PM

62. Thank you for your service.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:50 PM

48. '67-'68 on an LST supply ship in the rivers Vietnam. 3 episodes of rockets, 1 serious damage to ship

and one enlisted seriously wounded. Not like out on the ground. I was the loader for (.50 caliber? .40 caliber?) gatling gun type thing. Our big BIG "cannon" pounded back at the smoke at the horizon where the rockets were coming from. All crew got Combat Action Ribbons (3 times). Does that count?






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Response to UTUSN (Reply #48)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:55 PM

63. Thank you for your service.


Absolutely that counts.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #63)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:20 PM

78. Sincere you're welcome. I filter the thank-you-service through my sincerity filter.

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When wingnuts started that during Shrub/CHEENEE/Iraq, it was to butter up the all-volunteer military, since the the lesson they took from Vietnam was not to use the Draft that would rile up objections. And I would either dismiss it or slap it down when wingnuts said it to me and my filter for sincerity was finely honed.

Then came Drumpf and his zombies, and those were eager practitioners. One time in the grocery store parking lot, me wearing my Navy ship ball cap as always, one of the zombies came running to me from his monster truck and with his MAGA cap, whole arm outstretched to shake hands and said it. And I said, "No Drumpf for me." And he stopped dead in his tracks in absolute SHOCK. When he recovered himself, he said with dripping contempt, "No AMERICA for YOU!!!!!!!!"

That one really showed me how they conflated Drumpf with all VETERANs, like ALL the military and ALL veterans were supposed to be Drumpf-sters.

*****And when the VA started peddling how it had CHANGED and IMPROVED, what occurred to me was that the main difference was that they answered the phone with the thank-you thingy.

***But as I say, when it's SINCERE (as in your case), I graciously accept it.







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Response to UTUSN (Reply #78)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:22 PM

80. Thank you.

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #78)

Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:44 PM

136. Hear Hear

 

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 02:54 PM

49. Not me. NT

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #49)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:56 PM

64. Thank you for your reply. nt

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:04 PM

51. Only an AF brat, but we were told the military is always under civilian command.

No matter how much combat experience someone had.

Most of our Commanders In Chief have no combat experience, and they make military decisions. Edit to add: My father said this is the way it is supposed to be, the military does not take over civilian command in a democracy.

(This was said to me directly from my father who flew combat in three wars and was very proud of that fact. And my mother who was an AF nurse during Korean War.

Edit to add: Dad flew combat in WWII (Burma Hump), Viet Nam and Korea.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #51)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:29 PM

55. Army brat here. father was in fox holes in VN, shot twice

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Response to Demovictory9 (Reply #55)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:00 PM

66. Thank you.

Tell your father welcome home brother, he'll understand it.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #51)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:58 PM

65. I've always said that familes of Military parents serve

also.

A salute to your Father and Mother.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:37 PM

57. This dumb draftee was in basic training on 28 June, 1972

Nixon announces no more draftees would be sent to Vietnam, June 28, 1972.

A red letter day, for sure, for this conflicted West Coast pacifist.



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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #57)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:02 PM

68. Thank you for your service.



I enlisted in '64 instead of waiting to be drafted, that way I could choose my MOS, which was a heavy equipment operator.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #57)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:08 PM

72. I had enlisted about one week earlier.

Delayed enlistment, so basic didn't start until September.

No combat; didn't even leave the country.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 03:48 PM

59. I don't.

I am lucky enough to be too young for the draft, and I graduated HS in 1981 after Reagan was inaugurated.

I never wanted to fight in unjust Republican wars: Grenada, Panama, Iraq 1, Afghanistan, Iraq 2. Did I miss any?

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #59)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:02 PM

67. I was too old to avoid the draft except by enlisting.

I never wanted to fight in any of those nor Viet Nam...not after I saw it for the waste war is.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #59)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:04 PM

71. Nope, nailed them all. nt

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:03 PM

69. I've been married for 27 years.

Does that count?

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #69)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:10 PM

74. LOL.

Oh yeah, that counts.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:11 PM

75. Looked at your profile.

Thanks for your long service! Quite an accomplishment.

DU trends older, so there are probably more veterans here vs the general population. Lots of teachers and professors here as well.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #75)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:23 PM

81. Thank you.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:14 PM

76. I served 29 years in the United States Navy

Other than some minor concern about Iran having some Chinese Silkworm missiles while we patrolled the Gulf, and once time I had to dive under a desk while in the sandbox with a Flag Officers, I saw no combat.

About 90% of folks that serve never see a shot fired in anger, so asking about "combat" experience limits you to a small group.

And then, of course, it depends on your definition of combat.

I worked on a flight-deck launching aircraft to bomb Afghanistan from about 1100 miles away, but I don't think that counts as combat.

We haven't done trench warfare since the 1900s. In Iraq, we so softened the ground before ground troops advanced that what remained of the Iraqi military couldn't surrender fast enough.

So, what is the question you really want to ask?

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #76)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:21 PM

79. Yes, that is considered combat ops.

Thank you for your long service in the Navy, we worked with the Naval Seabees quite often, in Vietnam, those guys were crazy, but a lot of fun to be around.

I asked the question I wanted to ask and I really appreciate all the answers.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:25 PM

82. And let me add this,

thank you to everyone who also took to the streets to protest unjust wars, you are wonderful and deserve a big shout out.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #82)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:31 PM

86. And a hat tip to President Carter for pardoning the "draft-dodgers"

On January 21, 1977, U.S. President Jimmy Carter grants an unconditional pardon to hundreds of thousands of men who evaded the draft during the Vietnam War.

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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #86)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:32 PM

87. A move I wholeheartedly applauded.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:30 PM

84. Yes

Vietnam 25th inf divison

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:38 PM

88. Naval Expeditionary, Persian Gulf.

Fired on but my ship wasnít allow to engaged.. so almost.

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Response to denbot (Reply #88)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:41 PM

89. I would call that experiencing combat.

Thank you for your service.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:53 PM

92. I served in Desert Shield/Storm while in Turkey

But saw no combat experience. Based on what I saw from our support area, I had no desire to join in the fight, but would have if needed.

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Response to radicalleft (Reply #92)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:56 PM

95. Thank you for your service.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #95)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:59 PM

96. Thank you!

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:54 PM

93. Me none

Family members have been in the military but not in wartime.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 04:55 PM

94. The Navy wouldn't have me. I was sent to the "Group W" bench...

... for something similar to Arlo Guthrie's littering, I assure you. Something to do with asthma and my explanation of the knife scar on my arm.

They did offer me a civilian job in Germany but I decided to teach science instead in one of those scary U.S.A. "urban" environments. That was a different sort of combat.

It turned out for the best. That's how I met my wife.

We've lived and worked in those scary U.S.A. urban environments ever since.

My dad and my wife's dad are veterans and pacifists. My father-in-law was a Navy corpsman assigned to the Marines and my dad was a nearsighted Radar O'Reilly Army medical clerk. It was just dumb luck that neither one of them ended up in Korea during that war. My father-in-law did get to see an atomic bomb test up close as a guinea pig in the Nevada desert.

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Response to hunter (Reply #94)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:05 PM

99. Thank you for your reply.

Teaching is a vital job and you should be highly commended for it.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:02 PM

97. Just tried to help put people back together mentally and emotionally who did

have that experience (PTSD counselor).

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Response to niyad (Reply #97)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:10 PM

100. Thank you for this.

I suffered PTSD from my experiences in Vietnam, unfortunately, back then, your vital services weren't very available, it wasn't considered "being a Marine" asking for help, we were expected to suck it up and be Marines.

I'm very grateful for you and all the counselors who have helped so many of our military get through their PTSD.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #100)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:30 PM

106. You are most welcome. I only wish we could have done more, could do more.

I grew up with it (father and many of his fellow soldiers from WWII and Korea), no real acknowledgement or treatment for them, many self-medicating with alcohol, and all the attendant problems. I wanted to spare as many as I could what I, and so many others, had experienced.

I continue to work for the day those services are no longer needed, meaning that the world had finally come to its senses. I don't think that will happen in my lifetime.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:04 PM

98. Nope, the Army sent this draftee to Germany

It was my duty to support German products during Octoberfest and Mayfest.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #98)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:12 PM

102. Thank you for your service.



It was my duty to support German products during Octoberfest and Mayfest.


Been there, did that, supported my share also, nobody makes a better beer than Germany, IMO.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:12 PM

101. If you have worked in America you have combat experience.

I have over 40 years of combat experience.

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Response to fightforfreedom (Reply #101)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:13 PM

104. That's a fair point.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:13 PM

103. None, was in that gap time after Viet Nam

 

Where we didnít even have to register. No wars going on, minor issues in some areas, but little to none US involvement.

One of the reasons I donít think people in my age group belong with the Boomers.

Only battles we had was with the College Young Republicans. In hindsight, we should have beat the crap out of them.

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Response to Diablo del sol (Reply #103)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:16 PM

105. Thank you for your service.



Only battles we had was with the College Young Republicans. In hindsight, we should have beat the crap out of them


No disagreement from me.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:33 PM

107. You know there is a board for veterans on the DU site, right?

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Response to Lady Freedom Returns (Reply #107)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:41 PM

120. Yes,

I just thought that I would get more replies here and that seems to be the case.

Thank you for your reply.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:35 PM

108. One year in a hostile fire zone

Not fun having someone shoot at you. Wasnít a grunt, just remote deployed to a dangerous region.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 05:41 PM

109. I do not.

I grew up in a generation "without" a war... which is good, I guess.

Too young for Vietnam, already in college for Gulf War 1 and too old for Iraq/Afghanistan.

However, having said that...

My grandfather made up for it.

He was on a Cleveland Class light cruiser in WW2.

He was there for ALL the big battles from 42-45.

Kamikazes, torpedo attacks, artillery barrage of islands pre-invasion... he saw it all.




Oh and my son is USAF veteran, served front line with the "Bone"... (B1-B)

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:01 PM

111. Cold War Navy here

We were doing everything possible to avoid getting into a combat situation.

Only time it got tense was when Korean Airlines 007 was shot down. We went to no drill General Quarters and full offensive weapons load.

Fortunately cooler heads prevailed.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:18 PM

115. None here.

Iíd be a coward in a combat situation, I admit it. I thank you and all others here who served our country.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:21 PM

116. USMC

Started in Parris and saw the shit in the early/mid 80's. Miss my guys who bought it in Beirut.

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Response to BeerBarrelPolka (Reply #116)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:39 PM

118. Yeah,

I lost friends in the Beirut bombing also.

Thank you for your service.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #118)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:40 PM

119. .

Semper Fi

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Response to BeerBarrelPolka (Reply #119)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:42 PM

121. Semper Fi Devil Dog.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #121)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:44 PM

122. Yep

Devil dog. Do or die. Ruuf Ruff!! Oorah

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:45 PM

123. Veteran; no combat nt

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Response to EarthFirst (Reply #123)

Thu Mar 10, 2022, 06:46 PM

124. Thank you for your service.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2022, 05:12 PM

126. A very personal question, my friend.

Charlie Company, 1st Tank Btn, 1st Marine Division.

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Response to Patton French (Reply #126)

Fri Mar 11, 2022, 11:19 PM

127. It is and if you don't feel comfortable answering, then no problem.

Semper Fi Devil Dog.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #127)

Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:12 AM

129. Semper Fi, brother (n/t)

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2022, 12:12 AM

128. Thanks to all of you who have served.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2022, 11:30 AM

130. Not me.

I've been a pacifist all my life. I come from a long line of pacifists.

I agree wholeheartedly with Marvin Gaye that "War is not the answer..."

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Response to llmart (Reply #130)

Sat Mar 12, 2022, 03:05 PM

131. I couldn't agree more,

war is not the answer, especially when the sanctions are beginning to show real promise.

Thank you for your reply.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2022, 03:16 PM

132. USMC M-3-7 0331 Southeast Asia War Games... our motto: "Hey... we came in second!" nt

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Response to albacore (Reply #132)

Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:09 PM

133. Oorah!!!

Semper Fi Devil Dog.

Welcome Home Brother.

1st Eng. Btn. 7th Marines, Chu Lai

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:40 PM

134. Navy here so not combat per se

 

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Response to CrackityJones75 (Reply #134)

Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:43 PM

135. Thank you for your service Navy.

Without the Navy, our equipment would never have gotten to where it needed to be.

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #135)

Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:44 PM

137. Cheers!

 

Thank you as well!

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Response to MarineCombatEngineer (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:48 PM

138. Not I.

The closest I ever came to being under fire was when a careless deer hunter threw a shot over my head while I was walking in the woods.

That was bad enough. Can't imagine the real thing.

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Response to Straw Man (Reply #138)

Sat Mar 12, 2022, 10:51 PM

139. Close enough.

Thanks for your reply.

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