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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGloria Allred. Not what you think.
I'd had pretty much a negative opinion of Gloria Allred until a friend suggested maybe I didn't know enough about her and referred me to this article:
http://www.elle.com/print-this/gloria-allred-the-avenger?page=all
My opinion of her has improved quite a bit. An excerpt:
THE AVENGER
You know her as the lawyer who represented Tiger Woods mistresses and the blond allegedly groped by presidential hopeful Herman Cain. But Gloria Allred has also done pioneering work for womens rights. Is it possible to be a righteous feminist advocate and a celebrity gun for hire?
BY JENNIFER SZALAI
Allred was admitted to the California bar in 1975, which happened to be the year that Time, in its Person of the Year issue, dedicated to American Women. She started a law practice with two classmates from Loyola Law School in Los Angeles, Michael Maroko and Nathan Goldberg, and they began to establish themselves as specialists in civil rights, including the burgeoning fields of gender discrimination and sexual harassment.
In 1980, she successfully sued the L.A. County Sheriff's Department, which had been shackling pregnant inmates while they were in labor. In 1984, Allred filed a case against L.A.'s Catholic Archdiocese on behalf of a woman who was abused by seven priests and had given birth to one of their offspring; 23 years later, she won. Another client had been asked during a job interview about her menstrual cycle; Allred won a settlement after eight years of wrangling.
Her critics point to these early victories and draw a sharp contrast with her later work, wondering why the same attorney would deign to take on plights that seem more like fodder for gossip mags than grave affronts to justice. But Allred doesn't see the discrepancy in such stark termsif she sees it at all. In her 2007 book, Fight Back and Win, she has a chapter called "Little Things Start Big Changes" in which she describes bringing suit against everyone from a dry cleaner (for charging more to clean women's blouses) to a kids' salon (for charging more for girls' haircuts).
The sheer range of cases is striking. And to each onewhether the client was a victim of rape or a reality-TV experience gone awryAllred appends an "Empowerment Lesson." (Sample: "Standing up for integrity has its price, but it's one worth paying." Allred seems to have taken "the personal is political" rallying cry of the '70s and run with it, finding both victimization and empowerment wherever she looks.
Indeed, Allred still uses the radical vocabulary of an earlier era. "I'm not an academic. I'm not a philosopher," she told me the first time we met. "I'm in the war zone, I'm on the battlefield. Often, there's going to be blood in the water." She concedes that women are "learning their rights, and they're fighting back," but she doesn't believe things have improved much for women in the four decades since she started practicing law.
If anything, she said, young women are prone to greater disappointment, "because they expect to be treated fairly, to be treated on their merits, not sexually harassed, not beaten, not deprived of their child support. 'It's 2012? I didn't think it was going to happen to me.' They're in shock." When pressed about whether she truly believes the situation is as dire as it's ever been, Allred is unrelenting. "It hasn't gotten better in 36 years," she told me, her brown eyes trained steadily on mine. "There are still wounded on the battlefield, and most of them are called women."
MADem
(135,425 posts)It's "never a dull moment" when she's on the case, too.
When she steps out in front of a client, people back off the client. She did a great job with that girlfriend of the wife murderer Scott Peterson--she just wouldn't allow that young woman to be trashed.
She's also a role model for a vigorous career in one's later years...so what's not to like?
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,974 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)She trusted the Globe to motion to lift the gag order, and they stabbed her in the back. She could have filed the motion herself, but went along with their's. Although Stemberg would have probably objected and it probably would have been drawn out - far past the election, for sure.
I read the testimony. The MR campaign is correct - it's just a bunch of financial mumbo-jumbo and without having someone (Ms. Stemberg) put it in context, it means nothing.
Bet the Globe realized this too and are probably sorry they didn't pursue the gag lift. At least tried.
MADem
(135,425 posts)for her client. All we know about her client is this--the woman is gagged, and she KNEW Mittsy and Annie. She might have some tales to tell. I think there may be some "there" there...who knows?
We do know that Mittsy undervalued the stock. Of course, that's not actionable because OPINION isn't--and he was giving his supposed opinion. However, it could be said that he's a pisspoor businessman if he couldn't tell if his company was any good--it should make anyone worry about his decision-making ability to steward the future of ANY enterprise, never mind the fate of the USA!
I wouldn't trust him to make accurate predictions about the earning power of a farm stand after a great growing season!
obamanut2012
(27,637 posts)Frey, and without Frey's testimony, I don't think Lacey Peterson would have gotten legal justice for her murder.
polichick
(37,464 posts)...today DON'T expect to be treated better. Seems a lot of women haven't been educating their daughters in this respect. You can imagine how the First Lady teaches Malia and Sasha, by SHOWING and telling - lucky girls!
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,974 posts)way, they'll find out why feminists fought to change things from the good old days.
DURHAM D
(32,818 posts)I have seen a staggering amount of ignorant posts trashing her here on DU. It sadly reminds me that the same enemy she is fighting out there is ever present right here.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,974 posts)who help me see when I'm wrong. Here's hoping the article will win over some members of the enemy within.
DURHAM D
(32,818 posts)that Gloria was an Obama supporter and delegate to the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte. She was not in the VIP section. She was on the floor with the California delegation like a regular person.
So when I see all the guys that post nasty comments about her on DU I always silently ask myself "What have you done to re-elect the President? What have you contributed to the local/state Democratic party? What have you done to support the disenfranchised?" The answer is obvious.
obamanut2012
(27,637 posts)It pisses me off.
winstars
(4,246 posts)I'd be copping a plea so fast.. LOL
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,974 posts)winstars
(4,246 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,974 posts)plenty of replies, its just none of you could see them!
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)for saying what needed to be said.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)people in this forum would hate her just for that.
She's okay, whether she's a Democrat (which it looks like she is) or a Republican. I base my opinion on seeing her around in the news and on TV for a couple of decades.
DURHAM D
(32,818 posts)"She is ego and news driven..." You assigned to her a negative motive for her life's work. WTF.
ananda
(30,209 posts)If any person contradicts sexism, I am happy.. and I don't care how they look or how they do it!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)She was a regular guest. She was a good sport. But over the years, she has developed a reputation for integrating herself in high profile news cases...not necessarily justifiable cases that weren't big in the news...and her first order of business is to go on TV. She is, like most successful people, ego-driven.
That may be a negative to you. I did not say it was a negative, though, did I? In fact, I said that was ok.
DURHAM D
(32,818 posts)Do you actually know her?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)yrs.
You have your opinion. I have mine. What's your problem with people having an opinion? I didn't even say it was a negative. You seem to have a beef with my terminology. Weird. Don't you have better things to worry about?
You didn't answer my question. She was a regular on the Morton Downey show in the 1980s. That's how she got famous. Did you see her on that show? That show was the pre-cursor to the Jerry Springer Show, some say. That was the general style of it, except it was on in the evenings.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,974 posts)the article I posted? If not, please do if you get a chance. I think you will see what she feels her justification is for most of her cases.
As for the publicity-seeking, well, also part of her winning strategy. We're inclined to find that unseemly, especially in a woman, but I think that's because we've been conditioned by society's misogyny and that often that technique is used for unseemly ends. I think she is using it for good.
obamanut2012
(27,637 posts)Why would any liberal trash her?
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,974 posts)indoctrination.
We can't be well informed on every issue, and so we sometimes rely on the chatter. Even after all the times I found they were wrong, even having had liberal views on most things ever since I can remember, I still fall for that crap on occasion. I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
Is it any wonder the "conservatives" fall for it?
MADem
(135,425 posts)use the media to gain advantage for her client.
The reason she could never be confused with a Republican is because they don't fight for women...they usually fight with them, or against them!
She's most definitely a long-term Dem with impeccable social justice credentials, and was a delegate to the convention this year.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,974 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,974 posts)Upton
(9,709 posts)I wonder if the families of the Duke lacrosse team members feel as favorably towards Allred as you do?
DURHAM D
(32,818 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:31 PM - Edit history (1)
except, of course, in all the breathless right wing internet huffing.
obamanut2012
(27,637 posts)Mike Nifong was the DA.
Allred is not a DA or Assistant DA in Durham County, NC.
MADem
(135,425 posts)prosecutor looking to gain advantage for re-election. I think you need to retract your comment, there.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,974 posts)NoGOPZone
(2,971 posts)but you've set a new standard.
P.S.
Allred represented Nicole Brown Simpson's family. Fell better now?
LeftInTX
(29,500 posts)Lisa Bloom (born September 20, 1961) is an American civil rights attorney, best known as anchor of Lisa Bloom: Open Court a two-hour live legal news program on truTv's IN SESSION, formerly Court TV, from 2001 to 2009.
obamanut2012
(27,637 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,974 posts)obamanut2012
(27,637 posts)Her firm also does a huge amount of pro bono work for disadvantaged women.
She is one of the "good guys."
DCBob
(24,689 posts)I like her too.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,974 posts)Also, it's a common expression and so good for a title. If you are offended because that "you " isn't you, perhaps you want to say something supportive about her rather than becoming sidelined by a common turn of phrase.
If that "you" is you, then I was referring to you and was hoping you might read the article and reconsider. Not that complicated, really.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,974 posts)"You people," ala Queen Romney. : )