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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:00 PM

BGBD (3,282 posts)

Putin still has an out

where he can claim victory and avert the worst blowback that's possible.

He could retreat his forces back across the border and claim that his goal all along was to push Ukrainian forces away from the seperatist regions he just recognized. He could claim those areas are now safe and that the specieal military operation is over.

He could avoid what's surely going to be the worst scene of urban warfare in history that could last years and cost trillions. Avoid the potential of being unable to full take Ukraine, which would be a massive embarresment, and avoid greater diplomatic and economic loses by Russia.

It's right there if he wants to take it.

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Putin still has an out (Original post)	BGBD	Feb 2022	OP
I'm worried he decides to level the place (not nukes) just to spite them	underpants	Feb 2022	#1
That's EXACTLY what he's going to do staging MLRS's outside of Kyiv ... NO DOUBT he's going Fallujah	uponit7771	Feb 2022	#2
MLRS - a brand new world as we used to call it cynically	underpants	Feb 2022	#6
That has consequences	BGBD	Feb 2022	#3
At that point even Xi gets off.	DemocratSinceBirth	Feb 2022	#5
This was his swan song. His legacy.	underpants	Feb 2022	#7
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻	LenaBaby61	Feb 2022	#4
He's been really isolated for 2 years.	underpants	Feb 2022	#8
Totally agree with you. This guy is INSANE. He feels like a caged rat ....	LenaBaby61	Feb 2022	#17
couldn't agree more 'underpants'.....	democratsruletheday	Feb 2022	#12
Sure there is. There is a small dacha in Siberia where he can the rest of his pounding snow.	madinmaryland	Feb 2022	#9
I think he can't "claim victory" until Kiev falls.	WarGamer	Feb 2022	#10
So, he will declare all the Nazis & drug addicts gone, defeated, dead?	peggysue2	Feb 2022	#11
He can play some roulette.	TheBlackAdder	Feb 2022	#13
Oh that's disappointing	48656c6c6f20	Feb 2022	#14
ok ok ok	BGBD	Feb 2022	#15
FWIW	BGBD	Feb 2022	#16

Response to BGBD (Original post)

Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:01 PM

underpants (175,420 posts)

1. I'm worried he decides to level the place (not nukes) just to spite them

if things go as they look like they are.

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:04 PM

uponit7771 (88,625 posts)

2. That's EXACTLY what he's going to do staging MLRS's outside of Kyiv ... NO DOUBT he's going Fallujah

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:22 PM

underpants (175,420 posts)

6. MLRS - a brand new world as we used to call it cynically

When I was in the Cav.

Every three square meters or something like that. Nasty stuff.

I’m surprised at the lack of artillery and rockets so far. Maybe they planned to take it intact as much as possible. But if it turns bad (their window of advantage is closing) I’m worried that he just blows it away. If he can’t have it, for his legacy, screw them.

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:07 PM

BGBD (3,282 posts)

3. That has consequences

Putin needs to ask himself if he actually wants to be able to continue as a world leader or be completely excluded on the world stage.

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:08 PM

DemocratSinceBirth (98,733 posts)

5. At that point even Xi gets off.

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:24 PM

underpants (175,420 posts)

7. This was his swan song. His legacy.

He may be in bad health. Either way he’s near the end and he wanted this one last treasure.
Lenin Stalin Putin - the holy grail of Mother Russia.

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Response to underpants (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:07 PM

LenaBaby61 (6,386 posts)

4. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

He's the pariah of the WORLD, as people turn on him. Plus I think there's something wrong with him mentally & that his health is sinking, and if that is the case he doesn't CARE about himself, let alone about anyone else or about their life. So, Mr. ex-KGB agent wouldn't think twice about blowing us ALL up--it doesn't frighten him because while he's evil and rotten, he may be sicker than imagined as in dying which means he doesn't give a fuck if he blows himself up right along with the world.

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:25 PM

underpants (175,420 posts)

8. He's been really isolated for 2 years.

He may be in bunker mentality surrounded by sycophants.

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 07:11 PM

LenaBaby61 (6,386 posts)

17. Totally agree with you. This guy is INSANE. He feels like a caged rat ....

Because most of the world, except Donald tRump & some in the GQP US Taliban Putin Party are totally behind him and kissing his ass still. tRump has nowhere to get any money from now since he can't go to any bank, so I guess he thought his bestie putin would give him some of HIS money. NOPE, putin's done with fatso--has no more use for him--so I'm sure he doesn't want to see fatso again. Their love affair is DONE.

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:46 PM

democratsruletheday (195 posts)

12. couldn't agree more 'underpants'.....

To say he's a loose cannon is a vast understatement. We know he's unstable and capable of anything. I also think he's a narcissist and very stubborn so this is sadly going to be a long term occupation. I don't see him pulling out and trying to spin anything to 'save face'. He's all in IMO but I hope to hell I'm wrong. So incredibly misguided and messed up. I'm 53 years old and have seen some messed up things in my life but this might take the cake.

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:26 PM

madinmaryland (64,217 posts)

9. Sure there is. There is a small dacha in Siberia where he can the rest of his pounding snow.

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:27 PM

WarGamer (8,283 posts)

10. I think he can't "claim victory" until Kiev falls.

If Kiev falls, the Russians are gone faster than you can say "Poka"

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:33 PM

peggysue2 (9,770 posts)

11. So, he will declare all the Nazis & drug addicts gone, defeated, dead?

Pretty lame.

Right now, he appears hell-bent on bringing down Kyiv. And Zelensky. Which is reportedly creating blowback even among his own officials and the children of those officials, who have said they agreed to protect the eastern provinces. Not this. And certainly not the bombing of the capital.

Gonna be a very long weekend.

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:50 PM

TheBlackAdder (26,105 posts)

13. He can play some roulette.

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 06:00 PM

48656c6c6f20 (7,638 posts)

14. Oh that's disappointing

I thought It would be about a bunker, cyanide and a pistol.

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 06:03 PM

BGBD (3,282 posts)

15. ok ok ok

Two ways out.

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Sat Feb 26, 2022, 06:07 PM

BGBD (3,282 posts)

16. FWIW

Not the only one saying this

Link to tweet

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