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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRussian trolls are all over internet now. Here is their MO
01: Why isn't Biden securing the US borders but is concerned with Europe?
02: Anyone who speaks out against Putin supports Nazis and Fascism.
03: Biden is helping Ukraine because of his drug-addicted son.
04: Pro-Trump arguments.
It's all red herring, argumentum ad absurdum, deflection, and ad hominem.
If you see it here, please alert immediately. And if they are under 100 posts, contact MIRT. We in MIRT have been told to look out for it. If you suspect a troll, even if it's a long time poster, ALERT immediately.
#StandwithUkraine
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)proud patriot
(100,700 posts)Yes
relayerbob
(6,510 posts)gab13by13
(20,883 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,570 posts)Leghorn21
(13,520 posts)And the sad sad trumphumpers look more pathetic every day now
ITS WONDERFUL
President Zelenskyy or Capt Bonespurs? NOT A HARD CALL TO MAKE
calimary
(80,700 posts)Not one bit. Seldom is a contrast so glaring!
Two words: "Personal Vietnam"
Response to peppertree (Reply #36)
ShazzieB This message was self-deleted by its author.
Grokenstein
(5,707 posts)Ben Garrison is pushing the "unsecured southern border" BS hard. A little while back he tried to get the "Biden is a warmonger, no one cares about Ukraine" BS rolling, and is still having at it.
A weak military invites danger. Right now we have extraordinarily weak leadership. Instead of sending soldiers to protect our wide open southern borders, Biden is threatening to send them to Europe to protect their borders.
https://www.reddit.com/r/shutupbengarrison/comments/t1dkt1/ben_thinks_the_problem_with_the_us_military_is/
(Trigger warning: Benny's cartoon--and the whiny rant that accompanies the cartoon, which is posted in full in the comments at the link--is primarily about gays in the military and Benny's never been subtle in his bigotry. But said whiny rant is also all over the place and full of projection, and consequently funnysad.)
MadameButterfly
(946 posts)or do they think he was wrong about the Evil Empire?
SouthernDem4ever
(6,475 posts)Like he ever had any to begin with.
MadameButterfly
(946 posts)all heroes and history of the Republican party? I hear some claiming Lincoln, but of course they left his ideas behind long ago.
czarjak
(11,197 posts)czarjak
(11,197 posts)PortTack
(32,606 posts)peggysue2
(10,811 posts)These are the same memes we've been hearing day-in, day-out from Fox News and the Trumphumpers.
C_U_L8R
(44,897 posts)Reported them until I got a hand cramp. Like whack-a-mole.
Scrivener7
(50,774 posts)I'm sure they have the capability.
Pisses me off.
reACTIONary
(5,749 posts)... based on technical information, like IP address, they can't because they can login from anywhere in the world and appear to be located there.
yardwork
(61,420 posts)monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,410 posts)Troll farms are working overtime on the comments sections of news sites. One of the signs that I see are variations of "Biden is weak."
Or.. Biden has dementia. Or Biden is being outsmarted by Putin. I don't see a lot of that kind of sentiment on DU. It's mostly on RawStory, Huffpost, and especially The Hill--troll farms virtually live on The Hill.
Propaganda works much better in environments bereft of diverse information sources. Once readers/consumers detect propaganda manipulation, it renders trolls impotent. After awhile, no one pays attention to Trolls. It's a waste of time and energy. Trolls stick out like a wort on a nose.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I don't know where you are visiting on the "internet" but, might be best to avoid such pages.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)I did witness a particularly ugly accusation here where one DUer accused another of working for Putin. Its gone now, but I really hope we can avoid that kind of thing.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I know that tempers including mine get heated from time to time.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)ShazzieB
(15,959 posts)I saw that. It was...disturbing.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)When we turn on each other, we give them exactly what they want.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,570 posts)for Ove's lame and underwhelming statements about Putin's war. . .a man Ove not only supports for campaigned for.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)likewise I have zero interest in sports so I guess I missed the conversation.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)A conversation between two hockey goons meh.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,094 posts)Most of these "members" are Russian trolls, along with a few bat shit crazies.
I could only stomach them for about 1 minute, then I had to go take a steel wool shower to get the stench off.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)then why visit? Seems to be rather self defeating and a waste of time from my perspective.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,094 posts)As I said, I could only stomach it for about 1 minute, I'll certainly never go back there, but I just thought I would put it out there in case anyone else wanted to see for themselves.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Let them worry about what we are saying.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,094 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,094 posts)you stated your opinion, I stated my reasons for posting the link, that should've been the end of it, but if you want keep on going, you'll be doing it without anymore input from me.
Have a great Saturday.
Marcuse
(7,399 posts)calimary
(80,700 posts)and how and what theyre trying to message.
Ill be looking for more alerts and advisories like these here. BIG Thank You to all our DU stalwarts who spot em and expose them.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,094 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)niyad
(112,443 posts)know what these traitors and loons are thinking and planning. We cannot afford to be blindsided.
Kindly remember that most of the advanced world treated hitler as a joke in the beginning.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)and now that you are so well informed as to what the traitors and loons are thinking and planning, what's next?
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,094 posts)it's always good to know what your enemy is thinking/saying/planning.
With good intelligence and foreknowledge, one can disrupt the enemies plans, as has been proved so far in Ukraine.
This saying is very relevant: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)knock yourself out.....
sammythecat
(3,568 posts)Get some curiosity.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I really don't need to waste my time confirming that they are doing so.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,094 posts)along with other countries Intelligence agencies are wasting their time listening to what our enemies are saying or planning?
sheshe2
(83,356 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Doesnt mean I need to participate.
As you suggested, give it a rest
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MarineCombatEngineer
(12,094 posts)Peace brother.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)ShazzieB
(15,959 posts)You are perfectly free to ignore the whole thing. Nice, huh?
I don't understand, though, why you gaf if someone else wants to look in on the crazies. What's the big deal.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Dont understand why you are gaf about it?
ShazzieB
(15,959 posts)No thanks, I'll pass.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)ShazzieB
(15,959 posts)No need, no point, nothing to be gained from replying.
Putting you on "ignore" is starting to look like a good idea, though. Which I shall do as soon as I post this. 🤗
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Kittycatkat
(1,356 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Please add me as quickly as you can.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)hadEnuf
(2,150 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,094 posts)just that brief time was enough to send chills down my spine on how nuts they are.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,475 posts)what a bunch of loons.
xmas74
(29,659 posts)I went inside to purchase a bottle of Heet before fueling. The clerk and a yokel were talking about the borders and how supposedly it's actually Germany bringing back Nazis to invade Ukraine. Oh, and Putin is a victim and anti Nazi. And that Hunter is a Nazi.
I left without buying anything and contacted Casey's corporate. No reason to wait around that long while maskless mouth breathers take up all that time jabbering about nonsense.
wnylib
(21,146 posts)that you overheard.
xmas74
(29,659 posts)RW radio is everywhere here
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)It works really well for me, when I listen to the radio.
xmas74
(29,659 posts)The local NPR station. The rest of the area is listening to pure garbage.
XacerbatedDem
(511 posts)xmas74
(29,659 posts)The nuttiness goes up by 10.
XacerbatedDem
(511 posts)OK is probably even worse.
Last weekend, traveled down to Tulsa to visit the Black Wall St. museum. So sad. Don't think I'll ever be the same again.
TomSlick
(11,035 posts)It was immediately removed.
If you see a post spouting Russian or RW (to the extent there is a a difference) talking points, alert on it immediately.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,094 posts)I've served on several juries, not all related to Russian trolls, but the majority were.
GoneOffShore
(17,309 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)But, I curate my page religiously removing all memes, any post with a picture of Trump, all memories postings and connect only with reliable news organizations for information. Mostly I use Facebook to connect with hobby groups and local activities information.
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)They are not dominating social media as much as usual because there is so much support for Ukraine and opposition to Putin that drowns them out, but there is a lot of that sort of support from both right and left of the political spectrum if you look for. For example, the #AbolishNATO hashtag was moderately trending because of a mix of legitimate people who support Russia/Putin and blame the west, and a large number of what appear to be bots or troll farm type accounts.
One thing about the real people who are defending Putin's actions and who blame this solely on Ukraine/US/Europe, I don't think the normal right vs. left thing works here. It's more like liberal democratic values vs. authoritarian illiberalism. I know plenty of people far more to the 'right' or 'left' of me who are 100% opposed to Putin's war. Similarly that seems to be the case with the people who are supporting Putin in his war of conquest.
yardwork
(61,420 posts)gibraltar72
(7,486 posts)Encountered one of those on a friends FB page yesterday.
AllaN01Bear
(17,384 posts)TomSlick
(11,035 posts)appleannie1
(5,044 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,576 posts)To spot and ignore.
KPN
(15,587 posts)paleotn
(17,781 posts)1) Let me know as soon as Mexican and Canadian tanks roll across the US borders.
2) Classic projection. Putin drop right of the mold that formed Franco and Mussolini. He's a classic, fascist, dictator, little, shorty man.
3) Like the rest of the civilized world, Biden is helping a free, democratic Ukraine repel a fascist invasion. See #2
4) PPPFPPFPppfpfffffft! Those old retreads are going nowhere.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)"Wondering" why Russians seem to be winning.
They're really showing their asses today.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Ive seen none of those.
SunSeeker
(51,378 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,303 posts)Will do
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,112 posts)Dan
(3,524 posts)Response to Dan (Reply #39)
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littlemissmartypants
(22,418 posts)Select Announcements Group...
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Vinca
(50,172 posts)Catherine Vincent
(34,485 posts)The Hunter Biden laptop one is laughable.
Crowman2009
(2,478 posts)Wouldn't surprised me if some masked men break in and start smashing computers.
durablend
(7,417 posts)Sunsky
(1,737 posts)I think on DU they're more subtle. They'll voice their concern over something Biden is or isn't doing regarding Putin's unprovoked war, or why didn't Ukraine do this or that? I usually trash those posts. I'm very intolerant to anything resembling Russian propaganda.
wnylib
(21,146 posts)here and portray Biden as weak and unable to stand up to Putin.
Some of it is just anxiety over Ukraine and wanting the rest of the world to "just do something." Some of it is people who have read the propaganda and believed it.
Some are deliberately spreading BS.
shrike3
(3,283 posts)If you call them on it, they disappear. Only to pop up somewhere else, I assume.
YoshidaYui
(41,765 posts)I wonder how he feels about Nazi in this country
AZLD4Candidate
(5,570 posts)UnderThisLaw
(318 posts)tell the Russian trolls from the North American trolls who always manage to support conservative causes while claiming to be liberal?
Wingus Dingus
(8,049 posts)redirect attention to how shitty America is, how weak America's military is (and how Putin's military isn't full of gender pronouns and political correctness), how overrun with immigrants America is, how America lacks any moral authority to do anything but stay on the sidelines. Constant "SQUIRREL" to redraw focus back onto America's perceived problems. It's a right-wing/left-wing assault, depending on website. On here, there isn't that much activity compared to Free Republic, which has troll members openly cheering "Let's go Russia!" and attacking other (presumably authentically American) members for supporting Ukraine. It's absolutely amazing, the near-complete takeover of the GOP by Russia.
Wingus Dingus
(8,049 posts)concerning the Iraq invasion disappeared. Like I said, the implication that America has no moral authority and should stay on the sidelines, we're no better than Russia, etc.--I have seen this deployed here several times in the last week.
dflprincess
(28,057 posts)Section at the Minneapolis Star Tribune. I think I'll post this list out there.
IronLionZion
(45,269 posts)that Dems are somehow corrupted by Ukraine and Putin is the hero saving the world by killing Ukrainians. Deep state planted fake video footage and photos in the media to make it look bad. and so on.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)"Ukrainian" propaganda.
Interesting choices by these Putinite scumbags.
AllaN01Bear
(17,384 posts)gordianot
(15,226 posts)They are equivalent and are ALL infected by the disease.
Poiuyt
(18,087 posts)Being from Wisconsin, I was unaware about any "crisis" on our border.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,570 posts)I'm still trying to find it.
Woodwizard
(834 posts)They think trump and Putin are white hats destroying pedophilia rings and bio weapon labs in Ukraine. These people are certifiably nuts I am sure it is fueled by trolls but I have a crazy neighbor that laps this stuff right up.
I am in disbelief at how genuinely stupid some of America is.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,112 posts)Woodwizard
(834 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,309 posts)love_katz
(2,562 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,361 posts)orangecrush
(19,237 posts)Thanks for the heads up.
SWBTATTReg
(21,859 posts)quite aware of this Russian trolling, and will reporting accordingly.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,475 posts)next to trump.
ificandream
(9,197 posts)monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)so do - fox, tuck'ms,Hannity , republican's , & whole bunch of pos !
SouthernDem4ever
(6,475 posts)I don't trust those people and their viewers have any common sense. Whether putt putt goes down or not they will act like the same fools they have been from the beginning.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)no forward movement ! just like the republican non -party of nothing ! very simple in physics !
JI7
(89,185 posts)to avoid harm and destruction in reaction to any news about ukraine defense success.
elias7
(3,976 posts)PatrickforB
(14,516 posts)orleans
(33,987 posts)Lars39
(26,093 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,418 posts)usaf-vet
(6,094 posts)Lars39
(26,093 posts)BBbats
(89 posts)Mind this is on my Facebook news feed.
I get a lot of crap along the lines of "I'm not a Trump supporter but Biden is worse". Every chance to call Biden a feeble,mentally deficient,scatter brained,incompetent fool not fit for the presidency. Lot of Jimmy Dore & Joe Rogan fans(I never listened to either one & don't have a clue what they are about). Lots & lots of "If we had Trump in office this wouldn't be happening". A lot of "You thought Trump would bring us to the brink of World War III but look who is" kind of shit.
Yep! This is all Biden's fault! What's depressing is that they're making it stick & people believe it!
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)Was a small, but very persistent infestation at the time.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)AZLD4Candidate
(5,570 posts)jstephenj
(51 posts)Self explanatory. I'm sick of the GOP flagrantly claiming plausible deniability all the while essentially courting Putin's approval or looking the other way in plain sight during Trump's time in office.