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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:01 AM

Casady1 (1,519 posts)

I see all these nuts are going to duck duck- How Google works

I sold enterprise search andunderstand the algorithms. The way google works is the most popular results( in hits or times that result was viewed) comes up first. It is not based on metadata. We actually tried to sell our technology to Google in 2007 and ironically 5 years later Google used us for their litigation. They said to us metadata shmetdata. There was a google box they sold for a short time to corporations. It failed miserably because the results were based on views and not relevancy.

People do pay to get their site on top on Google.. One hint that you should know about Google. The more you define what you want to see in your results in the search box the better it works. You might have to put in a sentence. Also, some of your best info is on page 3 and 4 of the results.

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29 replies	Author	Time	Post
I see all these nuts are going to duck duck- How Google works (Original post)	Casady1	Feb 2022	OP
Is it correct	Delphinus	Feb 2022	#1
I don't know that.	Casady1	Feb 2022	#2
No, that seems to be an urban myth like false claims Target was a foreign French company	wishstar	Feb 2022	#7
I use both DDG and Google	EYESORE 9001	Feb 2022	#3
It's unclear to me from the OP why it's nutty to use duckduckgo.	Mister Ed	Feb 2022	#4
I've used DuckDuckGo for years. The only thing I use google for is to bootleg British crime	Scrivener7	Feb 2022	#6
I only said that	Casady1	Feb 2022	#9
Now I understand. Thanks. n/t	Mister Ed	Feb 2022	#10
It's part of their authoritarian mindset and some projection.	Hugin	Feb 2022	#21
Yahoo is the search engine that I use. n/t	ChazII	Feb 2022	#5
I use duckduckgo	Raine	Feb 2022	#8
why do people take this personally?	Casady1	Feb 2022	#11
You called people using Duck Duck Go "nuts".	lagomorph777	Feb 2022	#15
let me simplify how the search works	Casady1	Feb 2022	#17
What does that have to do with your attack on users of DuckDuckGo?	lagomorph777	Feb 2022	#18
and you sold search when?	Casady1	Feb 2022	#19
Yeesh.	lagomorph777	Feb 2022	#24
It's not just that.	Cuthbert Allgood	Feb 2022	#22
Yep.	lagomorph777	Feb 2022	#25
I've used Duck-Duck-Go as my search engine for years now. The few times I've gone	abqtommy	Feb 2022	#12
Ditto.....	a kennedy	Feb 2022	#13
I wasn't following you, but post 9 cleared it up. nt	Carlitos Brigante	Feb 2022	#14
Been using DDG for years	Ferrets are Cool	Feb 2022	#16
Your devices are listening all the time.	multigraincracker	Feb 2022	#20
After the Maidenform body thong incident...	Hugin	Feb 2022	#23
I have seen this happen way too many times to call it coincidence.	lagomorph777	Feb 2022	#26
For those of us who talk in our sleep...	Hugin	Feb 2022	#27
OMG a whole 'nother nightmare.	lagomorph777	Feb 2022	#28
After the second restraining order was served...	Hugin	Feb 2022	#29

Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:06 AM

Delphinus (10,304 posts)

1. Is it correct

that Duck Go is owned by China?

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:08 AM

Casady1 (1,519 posts)

2. I don't know that.

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:30 AM

wishstar (4,987 posts)

7. No, that seems to be an urban myth like false claims Target was a foreign French company

I have not found any evidence whatsoever of China ownership or control of DuckGo

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:15 AM

EYESORE 9001 (21,993 posts)

3. I use both DDG and Google

Sometimes searching for the same thing. There are often widely divergent sets of results.

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:20 AM

Mister Ed (5,098 posts)

4. It's unclear to me from the OP why it's nutty to use duckduckgo.

Could you please explain that part a little more? Or do I misunderstand the subject line? Thanks.

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Response to Mister Ed (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:27 AM

Scrivener7 (46,415 posts)

6. I've used DuckDuckGo for years. The only thing I use google for is to bootleg British crime

dramas before they are available here. That is a no no. I know those posting those dramas shouldn't, and I shouldn't stream them, but I am addicted. And DuckDuckGo doesn't allow it.

Google does.

I am wondering where this sudden campaign against DuckDuckGo is coming from. All of a sudden it is the subject of many posts, which means it is the subject of many news stories. After years in business.

I would wager that lots more right wingers use Google than use DuckDuckGo.

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Response to Mister Ed (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:33 AM

Casady1 (1,519 posts)

9. I only said that

because the right wing doesn't understand how google works. They think results are being suppressed and it is not how google works.

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:37 AM

Mister Ed (5,098 posts)

10. Now I understand. Thanks. n/t

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Response to Casady1 (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:59 AM

Hugin (31,217 posts)

21. It's part of their authoritarian mindset and some projection.

They would suppress things (See: Any mention of their racism) Therefore, they believe it to be a common practice.

What the dumbling caste consistently fails to grasp in their limited reptilian brainish stems is that Google is first and foremost a BUSINESS and as such it has the primary purpose of making MONEY. Suppression is the opposite of making money.

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:23 AM

ChazII (5,912 posts)

5. Yahoo is the search engine that I use. n/t

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:30 AM

Raine (29,242 posts)

8. I use duckduckgo

I guess that's supposed to make me a nut of some kind 🤔 but I don't like being tracked, sometimes I use Google or yahoo.

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Response to Raine (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:38 AM

Casady1 (1,519 posts)

11. why do people take this personally?

There is a story in the NY times how the right wing is going to duckduckgo for search.

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Response to Casady1 (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:21 AM

lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)

15. You called people using Duck Duck Go "nuts".

Why would that not be taken personally?

The remainder of your post is incoherent, so only the insult really gets processed.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:39 AM

Casady1 (1,519 posts)

17. let me simplify how the search works

results are based on the number of clicks a particular answer is looked at. The more it is looked at the higher up in the result set it will become. It does not mean it is the right answer. It means that what is most popular is higher up in the result set.

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Response to Casady1 (Reply #17)

Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:42 AM

lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)

18. What does that have to do with your attack on users of DuckDuckGo?

And, duh. One would assume that PART of Google's algorithm is based on popularity. It's pretty obvious that there are numerous other factors, such as how many sites link to a given potential result, how much a given site spends on Google advertising, personal tracking of the person doing the search, etc.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #18)

Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:50 AM

Casady1 (1,519 posts)

19. and you sold search when?

Most of the first results are paid for and it says it clearly in the result set. I was attacking the right wing. Our search engine was so good we could tell you whether you were searching for Java the bean, Java the island or Java the coding language.

here is the article.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/technology/duckduckgo-conspiracy-theories.html

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Response to Casady1 (Reply #19)

Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:04 AM

lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)

24. Yeesh.

Bye.

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Response to Casady1 (Reply #17)

Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:02 AM

Cuthbert Allgood (4,337 posts)

22. It's not just that.

Assuming they know your search history, they are giving you things you like. They also know where you are in the world and will give you results based on that. If I just search for a movie (and am not using a VPN), it will give me movie times in my town for that movie today. If I then start searching for one of the stars in that movie, I won't need to put in more than a couple letters before it suggests that actor because it knows I just searched for the movie. Their algorithm does more than just clicks.

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:05 AM

lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)

25. Yep.

I don't really get what's got the OP's knickers in a twist.

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Response to Casady1 (Original post)

Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:12 AM

abqtommy (14,118 posts)

12. I've used Duck-Duck-Go as my search engine for years now. The few times I've gone

to Google to check if better info is available it isn't. Google Schmoogle.

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:16 AM

a kennedy (26,840 posts)

13. Ditto.....

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:20 AM

Carlitos Brigante (25,704 posts)

14. I wasn't following you, but post 9 cleared it up. nt

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:34 AM

Ferrets are Cool (18,905 posts)

16. Been using DDG for years

That will not be changing.

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:57 AM

multigraincracker (29,338 posts)

20. Your devices are listening all the time.

My friends were talking one night and were talking about a Ukrainian friend that was getting a divorce. Next day they were getting pop up adds on the computer for “Ukrainian Divorce Lawyers”.

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:03 AM

Hugin (31,217 posts)

23. After the Maidenform body thong incident...

I can vouch that this is absolutely TRUTH.

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:06 AM

lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)

26. I have seen this happen way too many times to call it coincidence.

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:16 AM

Hugin (31,217 posts)

27. For those of us who talk in our sleep...

Every morning is a fresh Hell.

It does make for a deeper understanding of one’s Id.

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:19 AM

lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)

28. OMG a whole 'nother nightmare.

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Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:52 AM

Hugin (31,217 posts)

29. After the second restraining order was served...

I did another sweep of the bedroom and found I’d missed the nest ceiling fan. I suspect it dropped the dime on me via the refrigerator.

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