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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:54 PM Oct 2012

Maybe the October Surprise already landed & nobody is noticing…

But then, nobody HAS to notice for it to work its magic in lifting the mood of the country.

Gas prices are dropping rapidly as the news carries stories of the US poised to become the world's largest producer again. Prices are expected to continue their decline through the election.



This plus, of course the improvements in the economy & consumer confidence overall, are worth at least 3-5 points on Nov 6.


And I think back to all my speculation that the oil industry would arbitrarily raise prices this month in order to damage Obama.

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Maybe the October Surprise already landed & nobody is noticing… (Original Post) Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 OP
Interesting thought! I hope they continue to slide to below $3 a gallon. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #1
I read an article stating that gas could be under $3/gallon in some places by mid-November JaneyVee Oct 2012 #2
It already is PD Turk Oct 2012 #19
I Paid $3.09 Today In Columbus, Ohio ChoppinBroccoli Oct 2012 #3
It's Half Again That in California AndyTiedye Oct 2012 #5
$2.95 in Toledo. safeinOhio Oct 2012 #9
We're at 3.06 out here in the boonies of Licking County a la izquierda Oct 2012 #17
$4.29 in N Jersey this morning. Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #4
Almost as Expensive in NJ as CA. How Did That Happen? AndyTiedye Oct 2012 #6
I would love to know. Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #8
Probably some gouger anticipating the hurricane. kentauros Oct 2012 #14
No clue - and that is an excellent point. Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #18
$3.39/gal. for regular in Central Texas today. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #7
Or maybe "October Surprise" is a silly meme. longship Oct 2012 #10
Actually, there was no 1980 "October Surprise." Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #15
Well, you said it better than I did. longship Oct 2012 #16
Still $4.14 here Blue_In_AK Oct 2012 #11
Why isn't Faux news blaming Obama? sarcasmo Oct 2012 #12
Jobs numbers could be important pointsoflight Oct 2012 #13

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,781 posts)
3. I Paid $3.09 Today In Columbus, Ohio
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 10:59 PM
Oct 2012

The prices have been steadily declining for several weeks. You can bet that as they continue to drop, Republicans will all do an about-face and start informing us about how the President has no control over gas prices.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
5. It's Half Again That in California
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:23 PM
Oct 2012

It has just started to drop in California within the past week, only down about a dime to around $4.50

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
4. $4.29 in N Jersey this morning.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:02 PM
Oct 2012

Transaction tax time and lock down speculators with no direct interest in commodities...

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
6. Almost as Expensive in NJ as CA. How Did That Happen?
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:25 PM
Oct 2012

New Jersey used to be the only blue state with cheap gas. What happened?

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
8. I would love to know.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:38 PM
Oct 2012

I was pissed - I thought it was going to be closer to $3.50 this morning.

Edit - filled up in Morristown.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
14. Probably some gouger anticipating the hurricane.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:01 AM
Oct 2012

Gouging on gasoline, ice, water, and other essentials before and after a storm is against the law down here. I would hope y'all have similar laws and that they will be enforced.

longship

(40,416 posts)
10. Or maybe "October Surprise" is a silly meme.
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:51 PM
Oct 2012

The October Surprise happens every presidential election, except when it doesn't. Of course, there's only been really one, in 1980. But it doesn't stop people from flapping their gums about October surprises every damned four years.

And anything that jiggles the election dynamic this month will automagically morph into an October surprise. That is called confirmation bias. You remember the hits, and you ignore the misses.

It's time to kill the October surprise meme. It's deader than a Tyson chicken. (Or, if you're from Arkansas, a Perdue chicken.)

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
15. Actually, there was no 1980 "October Surprise."
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 10:11 AM
Oct 2012

Poppy & Co. made sure of that by dealing with the Ayatollah to ensure that it would not happen (the "October Surprise" they feared being the release of the Iranian hostages, and the deal being the weapons-for-cash deal that later became known as Iran-Contra).

And, I assure you, I'm fully familiar with the different varieties of confirmation bias. It's kind of irrelevant here because "October Surprise" has not been operationally defined, so it's just a loose term that anyone can apply to anything as long as it has something to do with October. You'll never catch up with it & kill it.

pointsoflight

(1,372 posts)
13. Jobs numbers could be important
Thu Oct 25, 2012, 11:55 PM
Oct 2012

They come out the friday before election day. It'd be good if the unemployment rate at least holds at 7.8%. And if it were to go down more, that'd obviously be frosting on the cake.

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