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Something is up with moRon #DeathSantis (Original Post) Roland99 Jan 2022 OP
Difficult to believe that he is building a record for a prez nomination run NCjack Jan 2022 #1
He's the epitome of the combo of "Idiocracy" and "Don't Look Up" Roland99 Jan 2022 #3
Why not? Trump did it in 2020. wnylib Jan 2022 #9
Exactly. He has the fish on the hook, now he's reeling them in. Midnight Writer Jan 2022 #27
Meanwhile Fish and Wildlife are having to feed the manatees lettuce since out water Maraya1969 Jan 2022 #2
If memory serves me right DuaneT Jan 2022 #31
Very simply, he is placing all blame for Florida's Covid and environmental woes on Biden wishstar Jan 2022 #4
He's trying to outdo the Big Liar dalton99a Jan 2022 #5
Sure sounds like it KS Toronado Jan 2022 #21
Most repugs are spewing outrageous lies because that is all they have AND most importantly, Ferrets are Cool Jan 2022 #6
I think you nailed our number one priority. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2022 #12
Counterprop works when it is True, Fast, Targetted, Concise Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2022 #30
Love Keith Olbermann's line... XacerbatedDem Jan 2022 #7
"Governor Assclown" Aviation Pro Jan 2022 #8
He may be losing popularity Septua Jan 2022 #10
I think the mystery is explained by the sports mentality. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2022 #18
Thanks for this link. Native Jan 2022 #25
We have about half of voters who prefer lies to truth. Lonestarblue Jan 2022 #11
He's losing voters to COVID IronLionZion Jan 2022 #13
K and R ...De Santis is sucking up to Trump..that's what it is...That's all of it. Stuart G Jan 2022 #14
Hmmm I wonder if his meltdown might be due to being a little too close to Gaetz ... MLAA Jan 2022 #15
He's terrified Floridians will start dying in droves based on his foolish decision. lark Jan 2022 #16
Typical fascist Mysterian Jan 2022 #17
De Santis is a Typical Trump Fool.. And he will do what needs to be done to this fool. Stuart G Jan 2022 #20
All his money was on the monoclonal antibody treatments developed for alpha and delta, greymattermom Jan 2022 #19
The same with Elise Stefanik mgardener Jan 2022 #22
Not because losing voters Traildogbob Jan 2022 #23
This. GB_RN Jan 2022 #24
Party of law and order Traildogbob Jan 2022 #26
I think he recently had COVID & isn't fully recovered. CaptainTruth Jan 2022 #28
"A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes" Javaman Jan 2022 #29
Testing the waters? 🎈 live love laugh Jan 2022 #32
Rt TY.. not the usual LIES! Cha Jan 2022 #33
Republicans/Conservatives no longer follow traditional electoral strategy. Caliman73 Jan 2022 #34

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
1. Difficult to believe that he is building a record for a prez nomination run
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 08:56 AM
Jan 2022

that is built on the deaths of Floridians.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
3. He's the epitome of the combo of "Idiocracy" and "Don't Look Up"
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 09:41 AM
Jan 2022

and so are all his Qultist followers

wnylib

(21,291 posts)
9. Why not? Trump did it in 2020.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 10:33 AM
Jan 2022

The lies in the Desantis tweets sound exactly like someone building up an attack on Biden for a presidential run.

We better trash and squash him before he gets too big of a following outside of Florida. Truth alone won't do it. There needs to be an emotional appeal.

We could point out how damaging the Trump lies were and paint Desantis with the same brush. A grave warning tone that we don't want that again.

Desantis will play youth against age with Biden. We could emphasize knowledge, experience, and accomplishments of Biden against Desantis' brash lies.

Midnight Writer

(21,674 posts)
27. Exactly. He has the fish on the hook, now he's reeling them in.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:38 AM
Jan 2022

Cult 101. Start with the little stuff, then ramp it up gradually.

The deeper people get in this crap, the more committed they become to it. It becomes part of their everyday life.

He's building an army of mindless followers.


Maraya1969

(22,459 posts)
2. Meanwhile Fish and Wildlife are having to feed the manatees lettuce since out water
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 09:34 AM
Jan 2022

is so bad the sea grass is dying and the manatees are starving to death.

DuaneT

(46 posts)
31. If memory serves me right
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:56 AM
Jan 2022

This is something he ran for governor on, now wants to blame the President? What a dick head.

wishstar

(5,267 posts)
4. Very simply, he is placing all blame for Florida's Covid and environmental woes on Biden
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 09:52 AM
Jan 2022

in attempt to convince gullible voters that De Santis cares about these issues and is not at fault in any way.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,102 posts)
6. Most repugs are spewing outrageous lies because that is all they have AND most importantly,
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 09:55 AM
Jan 2022

they have a cult base that believes the lies as fact. It's a win-win for them. I honestly don't know how we as Democrats fight the lies. Truth doesn't seem to matter with the cult.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,079 posts)
12. I think you nailed our number one priority.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 10:40 AM
Jan 2022

Exposing damaging lies that are destroying democracy needs its own think tank. I also feel the amount of dark money in politics is also responsible for its destruction.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,930 posts)
30. Counterprop works when it is True, Fast, Targetted, Concise
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:50 AM
Jan 2022

Look it up.

Truth does matter to them in the long run. Not the short or medium run. But truth peels off sheep from the cult all the time. They believe the lies as if they were truth, because they've been emoted into them, not reasoned into them. There are some who will try to apply reason in the form of memorized talking points and rebuttals, but we see the big picture. Most of them claim to see the big picture, but it boils down to huge untenable conspiracies. "Fauci collaborated with the Chinese to make a few million bucks." But thousands of doctors would have to be in on it. "Nothing's impossible for such evil people." Query them and they will pile one outlandish lie on top of another. You can quickly point out to them the pile of crap. But they will pivot and gish gallop. Give them as much as patience allows, then depart.

And every opportunity, tell them they've been lied to. It gives them a way to save face and exit the cult.

"Hey loser with the mask, whatcha fraid of?"

"You've been lied to."

"Whoa, what?"

"You've been lied into contradicting your own common sense."



The cult is not gaining anybody. Who they've got now is all they've got. Everybody knows magats. Few know any magats who got converted after about 2018.

XacerbatedDem

(511 posts)
7. Love Keith Olbermann's line...
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 09:59 AM
Jan 2022

"I wish whoever manufactured you would acknowledge YOU are useless, DeathSantis."

LMAO

Septua

(2,251 posts)
10. He may be losing popularity
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 10:34 AM
Jan 2022

I was keeping up with his approval polls for a while and was continually mystified that they stayed above 50%. I also saw a couple of comments saying he was one of the most popular governors in the country. The article suggests otherwise and if accurate, he may be reacting to it, same as Trump would.

https://www.cltampa.com/news/another-poll-shows-approval-rating-for-florida-gov-desantis-tanking-12441401

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,079 posts)
18. I think the mystery is explained by the sports mentality.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:03 AM
Jan 2022

Yay my team. Boo your team.

"The Information Age", my arse.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
11. We have about half of voters who prefer lies to truth.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 10:37 AM
Jan 2022

Otherwise, Democrats would have won more Senate seats in 2020 and Biden would have won by much larger margins. While they are not a majority, they keep Republicans in power and all Republicans and their voters care about is culture wars. They’re willing to watch the country disintegrate around them so long as they can feel superior to minorities and believe that they’ll be able to force their religious beliefs into law with this Supreme Court.

The question is how to reach at least some people who seem not to have a care about the non-culture issues the country faces, especially old infrastructure, the vulnerability of our old energy grids to hacking for ransom but also for cyber warfare, climate warming, and the threats posed by Russia and China. Republicans have written themselves out of governing on these issues because of their anti-government stance and supporting white supremacy.

Stuart G

(38,403 posts)
14. K and R ...De Santis is sucking up to Trump..that's what it is...That's all of it.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:00 AM
Jan 2022

De Santis knows that Trump is the leader, and this is the homage that De Santis is willing to pay....All De Santis
wants is the nomination for President to lead the Republican Party...

.....De Santis knows what he is doing, and he has to do it, while Trump is the boss...De Santis knows that he can change
the tune, when he gets the nomination for being the "...New Leader.." but for now, he believes he needs to get the
approval of the ..."Old Leader"..

......Once De Santis gets the nomination to be President...from the ..."PUKE PARTY".....then he will renounce Donald
Trump..and say some kind of very weak apology.

........MOST IMPORTANT...DE SANTIS KNOWS HE CAN GET AWAY WITH IT,..... SINCE DEEP DOWN, THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP....
THE RICH AND POWERFUL ......KNOW THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS WORN OUT HIS WELCOME, AND THE RICH AND POWERFUL
LEADERS REALLY WANT TO GET RID OF DONALD TRUMP....ONCE AND FOR ALL TIME......WHY IS THAT TRUE????

THE RICH AND POWERFUL LEADERS OF THE PUKE PARTY,...KNOW THAT DONALD TRUMP IS...............


.........A KILLER, A LIAR, A FOOL, AND THE VERY LAST PERSON THEY WANT TO LEAD THE REPUBLICAN PARTY..........

.............AND WE ALL KNOW THAT TRUMP IS WHAT HE IS.....AND THAT IS WHY DE SANTIS NEEDS TO SUCK UP TO TRUMP FOR
NOW,....... BUT THAT WILL ALL CHANGE WHEN DE SANTIS IS THE LEADER...AND TRUMP IS GONE......

...........It really is not that complicated.....Is it?.................................

lark

(23,058 posts)
16. He's terrified Floridians will start dying in droves based on his foolish decision.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:01 AM
Jan 2022

He didn't obtain multiple antibody treatments - just Regeneron because that owner is his major donor. He should have purchased more types because one of the three still works - Sotovirab (may not have the spelling right?). He thought this would save us from not getting vaxxed - WRONG! The virus is NOT going down here and now up to 2000 people may be hitting the hospitals that wouldn't have gone there if he'd invested less moronically. Son of a bitch!!

greymattermom

(5,751 posts)
19. All his money was on the monoclonal antibody treatments developed for alpha and delta,
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:12 AM
Jan 2022

and now they don't work for omicron. He knows how many people will die, and he knows that all of them are all his voters, but he can't look weak so he trudges on. I don't think he's stupid.

Traildogbob

(8,670 posts)
23. Not because losing voters
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:23 AM
Jan 2022

HE IS LOSING STOCK cash form his Antibody treatment. GENERON gave him millions. NoW GENERON even says it DOES NOT work on Omicron. But look at him pushing it still.

CaptainTruth

(6,569 posts)
28. I think he recently had COVID & isn't fully recovered.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 11:41 AM
Jan 2022

DeathSantis disappeared for 2 weeks & when he reappeared he said he was with his wife while she was having cancer treatments. In pics of the 2 of them right afterward she looks bright & chipper & he's the one who looks sickly. Seriously, what kind of cancer is there where you finish treatment in 2 weeks & you're all fine? I believe it was a lie, a cover story designed to gain sympathy for him. His idiot base will say "Oh, he's such a good man, he took 2 weeks off to be with his wife while she had cancer treatments." Bullshit. I'm convinced he was the one getting treatment, for COVID. He held a press conference soon afterward & he was clearly, & I mean CLEARLY gasping for air & struggling to breathe. It's on video.

Caliman73

(11,720 posts)
34. Republicans/Conservatives no longer follow traditional electoral strategy.
Wed Jan 26, 2022, 08:01 PM
Jan 2022

You win elections by getting more people to vote for you than your opponent. Traditionally it has been a race to convince more voters to cast their ballot for you and your party.

Republicans really stopped doing that after Reagan's term. Get a Republican politician drunk enough and they will admit that their policies do not work for the vast majority of American people. They tend to opt for a strategy of riling up their smaller but more excitable base and then they engage in a bunch of dirty tricks to try to suppress Democratic votes in order to win. This is what it seems, DeSantis is working on. He is deliberately and dishonestly trying to create an acrimonious situation with the Biden Administration so that he can prove to the Conservative base that he is "fighting for them".

It really doesn't matter that what he is saying is blatantly dishonest and easily debunked. The audience he is trying to reach and secure does not care one whit about honesty. He is relying on this base of support and the schemes that Republicans have been carrying out in the states, to suppress votes and/or simply reject the will of the people and switch out the electors.

DeSantis is a stupid man, but he is not unintelligent. This is a deliberate strategy to appeal to the ignorant and stupid base of voters who put Trump in the White House.

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