Best cities where the majority of homes are less than 100k.

I'll stick to my little Kentucky farm, with a nice, newer log cabin (1,100 sq ft), and 10 acres of pasture and woods, for under $100K, 7 years ago. Now, its probably worth at least twice that with everything we've done.

Beautiful state, I raised hell in Louisville. Do they still have dry counties in Kentucky. I was fined a couple times drinking beer in parks, places I did not know were dry.

So I decided to look up the median home prices for Yellow Springs OH, which is a VERY liberal community where several college professors (and Dave Chappelle too) reside.

I've visited Yellow Springs several times, and their homes don't look particularly impressive in general. And there's not many work opportunities nearby, really, compared to nearby Springfield OH (which made the list).

Yet the median home price in Yellow Springs is over $300,000!!

Yellow Springs named among best 'Hippie Cities For Stressed-Out Progressives'
https://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/blog/morning_call/2016/04/dayton-area-community-among-best-hippie-cities-for.html

Yellow Springs is a cool small community. And not far from Dayton where there should be plenty of job opportunities.

... don't impress me much at all. The pics of homes in nearby Springfield looked nicer to me in the above video, overall.

Yet the median home price in Yellow Springs is FAR higher.

It probably boils down to supply (of money and income among many Yellow Springs liberals) and demand (the most educated tend to want to live among their own kind).

And I think it's doubtful that Yellow Springs will suddenly build a bunch of low-income housing there, for the sake of the less wealthy in the Dayton area.

Yellow Springs is much closer to WPAFB than Springfield, so the nearby work opportunities are probably better there indeed. But I don't think there's a huge difference, other than driving a few more miles.

For 1 thing Yellow Spring is right on the edge of John Bryan State Park, which is a beautiful area. Also, Yellow springs has a real community feel to it with a number of locally owned stores and restaurants. There is a large arts community. When you buy a house there you are paying for a cool location in a quaint small town.

And if you are a liberal, as you pointed out, you'd much rather live with other liberals than what you will get in Springfield

I wasn't keeping track, but it seemed those four states were more heavily represented than any others. Yay for cheap housing in the Rust Belt, I guess!

I actually have personal knowledge of Decatur, IL, which was in the first video. We lived there for 5 years (1986-1991), and it was definitely a very cheap place to live, as it evidently still is, but I found it to be pretty boring and would not want to go back.

I did a search on Buffalo on Zillow for under 300k and only one house popped up.

Like I said though with a lot of these older cities in the North east, the property taxes are a bit out of sorts.

Now I see them

Althoguh I would be hard pressed to want to sell my house for most of them without having at least 50k for renovations.

Only one place in all Texas? I thought conventional wisdom had it that no one in their right mind would want to live in Texas? Actually, Dallas DID have a rep for being relatively cheap, but that was about 30 years ago. Word got out, and we still had a Democratic Governor.

manager there. We had quite a few old people there, mostly widows who had money and could hire a "colored girl" to look after them and wheel them out to the expansive lawn on nice weather days, which was usually. I learned how to act around older people as my brother and I were given all kinds of punishments if we acted up, fought over stuff, etc.

The Melrose is still there, I see when I googled it. Lovely architecture, beautiful service in the dining room and a covered entrance on one side. It was a sort of assisted living old style!

Before we moved, my outfit used to have its HQ not too far from there. We'd even sometimes have visitors stay there if they were coming in for only a few days.

considered a treasure, not a fuddy duddy hotel from the old days. But I learned how to act around old people (as well as what was on their cocktail list every day "about" five ("It's five o'clock somewhere" is what my mother used to say). Ah the late 1950s!

"MARQUETTE — Marquette has been named one of the world’s best cities for bicycling, according to PeopleForBikes’ fourth annual city ratings.

Marquette ranked ninth in the small cities category and 27th overall in this year’s rankings, which were announced this week. The rankings include more than 600 U.S. cities, 107 global cities and 12 countries."

https://www.miningjournal.net/news/front-page-news/2021/06/marquette-named-one-of-worlds-best-small-cities-for-bicycling/

"MARQUETTE — Marquette has secured the top spot in a recent USA Today 10Best Reader’s Choice contest. The recognition lauds Marquette County as the best Small Town for Adventure based on public voting that took place on www.10best.com through USA Today.

The contest pool contained 20 towns, all with a population of fewer than 25,000 people but considered big on outdoor adventure.

Marquette topped many well-known destinations. The top 10, in order, were: Marquette; Florence, Oregon; Watkins Glen, New York; Sedona, Arizona; Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania; Everglades City, Florida; North Conway, New Hampshire; Blowing Rock, North Carolina; Bar Harbor, Maine; and Jackson Hole, Wyoming."

https://www.miningjournal.net/news/front-page-news/2018/05/marquette-named-best-small-town-for-adventure/

"Marquette, Michigan
This picturesque lakefront town is packed to the gills with appeal—so much so that President Barack Obama couldn't resist a visit here in 2011. He met with local businesses in Marquette's historic downtown district, some of which still trade on that fame today. With 22,000 residents, Marquette is the Upper Peninsula's largest city, although the small-town feel is evident from the vibrant Lower Harbor, a home to a series of festivals from spring through fall, to the university district, where mom-and-pop shops and restaurants line the streets."

https://www.wheretraveler.com/play/midwests-most-charming-small-towns

I use to love going fishing on the Cisco chain of lakes in Watersmeet, Mi.

My wife and I were just talking last night about going to the casino there some day and playing the slots and eating at the restaurant.

I do none of that but I keep myself occupied doing projects and babysitting grandkids.

But it's not for most people. The Winter is just too long for most people. You're talking about good weather for only a few months a year. I live in West Michigan and we get 65 inches of snow a year and that's a lot to deal with. And more than that, the length of the Winter is just so depressing, more than just the snow, the trees are dead for 6 months. Everything is gray and dirty until May.

It's beautiful but winters are long and it's not heavily populated, for those used to having places like Costco and Trader Joe's. It's lots of small to very small town charm.

You get two months of nice weather and winters are depressing.

Heck, I live north of Detroit and I'm already tired of winter after only one all-day snowfall.

In springtime there are dozens of falls to check out.

just about every decent looking non-fixer upper house under 300,000 is already under contract on Realtor and Zillow. I've been looking hard at certain areas of Michigan (and PA, OH) for retirement as it's closer to family, hoping to spend not more than 250,000-300,000, but the prices all over the more-desirable parts of the state have skyrocketed (except in the struggling cities, which I won't consider)--just in the last six months I've been researching.

And if you want to save more money, one can consider small towns like L'Anse. For under $300k, one can find very nice homes if one is willing to adapt to small town or village living.

I'd recommend you look at a map of Upper Michigan, determine how far you are willing to drive to a bigger town like Marquette, Houghton, Rhinelander (WI) and then check out the real estate in the towns and villages within that drive.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/LAnse_MI

open to a lot of areas right now, at least until I can visit these places in person over the next couple years.

in late May, June, early July the mosquitos and blackflys will chew you up.

Asking for my black self.

Most of the cities on the list have sizable minority populations.

Whatever you save in home costs gets paid in heating cost.

There are two bigger cities on the list. Cleveland and Buffalo. And two medium cities: Rochester and Birmingham. It’s interesting that there’s nothing in the sun belt outside of Texas and Birmingham. I would imagine that there are some cheap places in AZ and NM. Also, in SC and TN, but maybe not.

That said yes the more appealing places to live are of courser going to be more expensive. I think he is sticking to cities of a certain size. There are plenty of small rural towns that have very low cost of living.

No free lunch, I guess.

Dayton is a bit over 140k

But only 16 miles out....

Which hooks up to a 62 mile system in that region.

The local university, Ball State, Ball State has adopted environmental sustainability as a :primary component to the university's strategic plan and vision.["

"Starting in the mid-2000s, all building additions and renovations are designed to meet Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) certification standards. Standards include environmentally-friendly site selection, energy and water efficiency, materials selection, and indoor environmental quality, among others.[19] The university diverts 20 percent of its waste from landfills through recycling efforts and also invests in hybrid vehicles, hybrid-electric shuttle buses, and vehicles that use E85."

"At Spring 2009 Commencement, then-president Jo Ann Gora announced Ball State's plan for the largest geothermal energy project of its kind in the United States Ball State has committed to reducing greenhouse gas emissions by nearly 80,000 tons annually through the installation of a $65 million geothermal heating and cooling system and the closing of all four coal-fired boilers on campus. The move is expected to save the university $2 million in fuel costs annually. The geothermal system will consist of 4,000 boreholes and two energy stations on campus. The system will consist of two underground loops to circulate water for heating and cooling throughout campus."

"The university's first green roof was installed on the North District Energy Station in 2011,[38] while a second smaller green roof was installed on the second floor of the Architecture Building in 2013.:

That said, Muncie is flat and in Indiana.

They're more vigorous and productive and lots of people want to live there. I know because I'm among them; if we moved to a liberal town in retirement, we could now only afford a very modest place in a low-income neighborhood -- and the low-income neighborhood would likely be more conservative than others.

I say liberal instead of blue, btw, because some areas vote blue more to resist the white supremacy party than out of liberalism. Like a lot of blue minority towns in the very conservative south.

Interestingly but understandable, liberal cities also tend to be located on coasts and big waterways where cultures from far places intersect, and they're often geographically densely compacted by mountains and/or water. NYC, San Francisco.

Conservative dominated America cities are far more likely to be inland away from constant foreign influences and to be relatively flat. Oklahoma City. But also, harsh climates (the hot south and SW, frigid north) that made living especially challenging tend to produce more conservative cultures. And lower RE prices. And a thoughtful glance at any political map shows that still holds true, even with modern amenities.

Start with (paraphrasing) "if you work at Taco Bell, you can afford a $100K home." Probably true, if your rich uncle buys it for you and pays for your utilities and upkeep.

As to my lovely home town of Dayton, he says the median home value is $66,800. Yet, according to Roofstock:



Anyone else wanna weigh in on their mentioned home town?

and his home is older, in OK shape but I can't imagine above the median, 2 bedroom, 1 bath room, on a very busy street so only parking is in the back on a 2 way alley, and it was worth 110k. So I did wonder about his figure. I am getting a three bedroom, 2.5 bath, new build in NC for 192,400. But it is in a small town.

But in the last decade the city has improved dramatically, including home values. When we bought our current home nine years ago (similar to your brother's, but a six bedroom double), it was valued by the county at $63,500. Now, disregarding renovation, it's at $133,000. Market value (partially renovated) is about $275,000. Houses in our neighborhood have all sold over market within days - some immediately upon listing - in the past several years.

His video is dated January, 2022 IIRC. The data are clearly way off.

I like the mountains, and Roanoke is a good size. Not a lot of crime in the southern suburbs, and home prices there aren't ridiculous.

It's Erie P-A. Pee Ay. Pittsburgh PA. Johnstown PA. Nobody in PA says "Penn" after a city.

That said, his stats are out of date, home prices are up dramatically across the board, even in the rust belt. If his numbers weren't tabulated in the last six months, they're useless.

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I think maybe nobody from PA ever corrected him.

... he's too busy putting together fluff "top ten" lists/slideshows on his monetized clickbait channel.

a minute on the google machine, tops. Makes me doubt literally anything he says.